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Gavin

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I have seen lately that a lot of fellow forumers have been getting their corporate timeline mixed up regards the infamous Weyland-Yutani Corporation. So to educate those that don't know, and confirm to those that think they do, here is the corporate timeline of the "Company" as seen in the movies... 2004 - Weyland Industries founder and CEO Charles Bishop Weyland, recognised by Scientific American magazine as a "Pioneer of Modern Robotics" dies during and expedition to Bouvet Island, Antarctica. Weyland Industries endeavours included robotics, satelite communications and weaponry, with its CEO frequently funding archelogical digs and expeditions. 2004 - Ms Yutani (presumably founder and CEO of the Yutani Corporation) acquires advanced alien technology from the American O.W.L.F. (Other World Life Form) task force, the intention being to reverse engineer the technology to advance hum an technological advancement in the field of space travel. 2012 - Peter Weyland, at the age of 22, founds the Weyland Corporation. Weyland Corporation grand endeavours include AI synthetics, FLT deep-space travel, security, medical, terraforming and colonization. 2023 - Peter Weyland makes an appearance at the TED (Technology, Entertainment and Design) conference, with grand claims of his companies abilities, history teaches us that his claims became fact... 209? - Weyland Corporations Project Prometheus - details forthcoming 2122 - Contact is lost with the Weyland-Yutani vessel the USCSS Nostromo. Computer systems onboard the Nostromo were so old the navigational displays incorrectly read out the name of "the company" as Weylan-Yutani. 2179 - The weyland-Yutani Corporation holds seats on the ICC (Interstellar Commerce Comission) and the ESCA (Extra-Solar Colonial Administration), as well as co-funding colonization endeavours and manufacturing ESCA Atmosphere Processors. Furthermore, the Weyland-Yutani Corporation also holds contracts with the USMC (United States Marine Corps), manufacturing their weapon systems and spacecraft. Finally Weyland-Yutani developed synthetics are common place aboard all vessels, both civilian and military. 233? - The Weyland-Yutani brand and name are sold to Walmart, with all Weyland-Yutani assets becoming property of the USM (United Systems Military). ...Also The name Weyland-Yutani was coined by by Ron Cobb. Weyland was in reference to the British lorry maker Leyland Motors, with Yutani being the surname of one of Ron Cobb's neighbour. Originally, Ron Cobb, viewed the company name as a double barrelled name showing the coming together of the east and the west, not as a merger of two large companies that had previously been in competition with one another. Although many fans thought this it wasn't confirmed until the appearance of Weyland Insudtries in AVP, supported by the appearance of Ms Yutani in AVPR and concreted by the corporate timeline of Weyland Corp on the website www.weylandindustries.com

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TheNextLV426
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Snorkelbottom. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. www.weylandindustries.com clearly says that the company was founded by Peter Weyland in several places and makes no reference to Bishop Weyland. If you use www.weylandindustries.com as the official source and find Bishop mentioned on there then you might persuade me otherwise.
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What is so hard to understand... [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_vs._Predator_(film)]HERE[/url] it states "Lance Henriksen as Charles Bishop Weyland, the billionaire head of Weyland Industries." and... [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(film)]HERE[/url] it states "Guy Pearce as Peter Weyland: Founder and head of Weyland Corp." Or to put it another way....

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As I see it, Snorkelbottom is not trying to infer that AvP is canon, but simply putting together all the facts that are not blatantly in contrast with the Weyland timeline. There are some things that haven't been confirmed, nor denied, therefore we don't know yet if they are true or not. My high hope is that all the AvP drivel is ruled out once and for all, but until we see something official we cannot exclude those facts that seem to be consistent. It's happened with the stuff from Aliens (I was pleased by it, but many others were disappointed), so it could happen for AvP as well (pleasenopleasenopleasenopleaseno...)
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
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FOX - Hey Ridley how can I help you? RS - I wanna make a film about the Space Jockey. FOX - Cool. Will it have the "Alien" in it? RS - Probably not, I want this to be a film about everything, a Sci-Fi epic! FOX - Very cool. But it will be related to the Alien franchise then? RS - Of course, it will be set in the same universe, but that is all. FOX - So Weyland-Yutani will be involved? RS - No, Weyland Corp. The Weyland half of the company before they merged. FOX - Er, you mean Weyland Industries, from AVP don't you? RS - I don't think so, those films were crap beyond compare. FOX - Maybe, but they made a nice financial turnover, and JC said he thought PA's AVP was the third best film in the franchise. RS - What? Your telling me they're canon. FOX - Afraid so RS, you still wanna make that film then? about the Space Jockey? RS - Yeah, but I'm not having no predators in it! FOX - Of course, but could we at least reference the company from AVP? RS - I suppose, but nothing more...

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So, how does Ridley saying that AVP is horrible make it not canon? Had he added that he was going to write them out of the storyline then you could use his quote as a point that defines the films as not canon. I believe he said only Alien was going to relate and was going to ignore all sequels. Now we have references to Colonial Marines, Power Loaders and Pulse Rifles. As well as references to Alien 3 on the timeline, so now everybody takes that as a reference to these two sequels, right? Unless featured or mentioned in the movie then these references still don't definitively say that they are a part of Prometheus's universe, they were only mentioned or referenced on the website. So, what I think Snorkelbottom is saying is that there are clear references to AVP, which in the same sense does not prove it nor does it disprove it as canon, but is clearly referring to AVP all the same, which nobody here wants to even admit.
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The problem I think is you are hung up on the naming of Corp & Industries. If you incorporate a company you are Limited in the UK and Corp in the US. Its a legal requirement to show your company status. Weyland Industries would refer to the group of companies owned by Weyland Corp. Weyland Corp would be the legal entity not Weyland Industries. You would not be able to have a company called Weyland Industries, it would have to be called Weyland Industries Corp or Weyland Industries Limited
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@ TNLV426 - Your post is bewildering. You claim that I am hung up on the business names before bringing up the legalities, going further than I ever have. As I have stated Weyland Industries = AVP, has done since 2004, until appearing as a URL to promote Prometheus. Let me try the reverse logic... If Ridley did not want the AVP's as canon he could have... 1. Demanded the websites address be www.weylandcorp.com, or similar, thus eliminating any reference to Weyland Industries. 2. Dated Peter Weyland's birth after July 2005 to avoid any possibility of CB Weyland being Peters father. 3. Stated that Yutani was the oriental branch of Weyland, making the double barrel name closer to Ron Cobb's original intention and away from the merger idea first embodied in AVP and AVPR. ...but he hasn't, he could have and it would not have affected Prometheus or the Alien Franchise, therefore AVP is more canon than the naysayers would want.

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BTW, whether Weyland Industries is inc., llc, or whatever it may be. There is no legal binding saying this has to be included in the company name wherever they use it, ie. logos, marketing, even just general use. You would find this used more so on checks, taxes and legal type stuff. They could use it on the logo and such, but it's not required. The timeline having the Weyland Corp. incorporated in 2012 does not disprove the AVP arguement, sorry.
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but snorkel, just because its used in the AVP movies doesnt make it "canon". its RS's story, and he had nothing to do with Predator, so he certainly didnt intend for the technology for Weyland-Yutani to come from a back story that he had no part in, and that didnt even exist at the time. Scott came out and said that as far as he was concerned, the only other movie that he would even consider to be in the realm of the original storyline was Aliens. other directors pay for the rights to use names and words from Scott's universe, but they certainly arent his ideas.
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its not RS's story its FOX's

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i am with u Snorkelbottom i think the avp time line fit with what u are saying man when they said about the new movie and peter weyland its got me thinking about the time line with the end of avp 2 and her getting them guns at the end.the only thing that puzzle me is tt used at some time and where did the preds get them eggs from.and has anyone play the pred game on the xbox 1 where humans have the sma stuff as the preds,mybe the 2nd promethues movie mite shoe the merger of the company or mybe avp3 mite.anyway soz to ramble on good post man
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@Snorky, I got your back in this sizzling hot "side-debate" which I'm sure you didn't intend. @Community, Can't we just agree to disagree and have a "wait-and-see" attitude? "Only a Sith would deal in absolutes."-GL ; )
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OK SnorkelBottom I’ll give up trying to convenience you. The argument has gone full circle and I have nothing more to offer since you wont believe in facts. [b]Behind door number one:[/b] The official Prometheus timeline (www.weylandindustries.com) shows that Peter Weyland formed the company in 2012. From 2015 the company is referred to as Weyland Industries as an umbrella for all the separate companies that make up the Weyland empire. The same official Prometheus website has an About Us page that reads as followed: At [b]Weyland Industries[/b] we apply science, technology and our unparalleled global network of resources to the pursuit of Building Better Worlds. Fifty years ago, our [b]founder[/b] Sir [b]Peter Weyland[/b] set out to change the world. Now, the company [b]he created[/b] so many years ago works tirelessly with the same unlimited ambition to improve the world he changed. [b]Behind door number two:[/b] An unrelated movie and a wiki page that claims that the company was created by Bishop Weyland in 2004, a fact not backed up by the OFFICAL Prometheus website with not even a mention of a Bishop Weyland. To accept what’s behind door number two means you have to accept everything that comes with the AvP movies and assume the Weyland PR people forgot who founded the company due to a few too many beers at lunchtime. I wonder if Bill Gates will get written out of Microsoft history in the future due to a similar error. Its easily done, apparently. Case done, I won't loose sleep over it. I'm sure there wont be a test after the movie.
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I refute none of that, but can you extend me the same courtesy of what I have shown? Furthermore, none of that disproves AVP as canon. The site backs up Weyland Corp, not Weyland Industries. Is it not viable that say... After his fathers death P Weyland continued in his fathers footsteps, but soon exceeded anything his father achieved, taking his fathers company and incorporating it into his own.

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snork3lb(*)ttom---> If anything you are absolutely correct on "Fox" owning the final movie,story,video game,books....;Also thank you for the thoughts and idea's regarding this franchise :-) I am also 33 and have come to the conclusion --money talks--
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Not to pour fuel on the fire but...[b]@Snorkelbottom[/b] you are aware that Weyland Yutani was mentioned in ALIEN before AVP? Not to mention the fact that ALIEN was made in 1979, AVP in 2004. Its called WEYLAND CORP in Prometheus because it hasn't merged with Yutani yet, that was confirmed by Ridley ages ago, not because Fox are trying to crowbar AVP canon into Prometheus. I'm not being funny but if they really wanted to do it they'd put Predators in Prometheus lol.
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where did the preds get the eggs from and what about that sj skull in pred 2?
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@ Mentos - Weyland-Yutani was in Alien, but originally Ron Cobb envisioned the formation being a partnership, not a merging, as mentioned in the OP. Officially, the idea of two companies becoming one didn't appear until AVP. Also putting predators in Prometheus would serve nothing. Everything I have mentioned in this and other threads shows that AVP is more canon than it is not. @ Kalhava - How should I know. I'm just pointing out the links. BTW there was no SJ skull in Predator 2, that was an Alien skull, the alleged SJ skull is in AVPR.

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[b]@Snorkelbottom[/b] a merger and a partnership are a much of a muchness to an non-economist, they mean the same thing to someone who doesn't know the exact definition. You're getting tangled in technicalities here. It was a company in ALIEN, it was the same company in AVP, AVP didn't do anything different with it. (btw: I'm trying to be civil when and set aside the fact that AVP and AVPR are both atrocities and insults to ALIEN, ALIENS and the language of cinema its self. Don't hold anything to canon that isn't. Ridley holds Camerons film as canon and [i]that is all.[/i] ALIEN 3, RESURRECTION and the AVP's are not, I repeat [i]not[/i] canon, merely a series of quick cash grab by Fox.)

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