What do the pictograms tell us?
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MemberOvomorphMay 05, 20124195 Views57 RepliesSometimes, truth is simple, and you find it between the lines.
So what do the pictograms tell us?
Archaeological digs, earth civilizations with no contact one another, which implies that these civilizations were not only continents apart, but also chronologically distant.
And yet....they all have the same planetary system depicted on their wall paintings...so it was all very ancient pictograms...wherever they were found must had been primitive. So what does this tell us?
That Earth had been visited quite often by the sjs or the blue guys, whatever, in the old time, and they were worshiped like gods. The pictogram shows men worshiping the tall guy who points to the star system.
So were them there to tell us, hey we made you, worship us, as you should?
I believe that's, what Shaw had in mind for starting this mission. Let's go find our parents...our creators...our Gods....
And then the trap. We were so wrong and the like...
So what if the sjs had simply discovered our planet in the ancient times, and did exactly what they always had, whenever they found a new planet with life (or only our planet): Take by force a few of us with them, for sacrifice, for impregnation and birth giving to news sjs, or just using us as live stock for their experiments for creating the xenos or whatsoever...
The fear they stroke to our ancestors forced them to worship the sjs like Gods..or our poor ancestors would never find out what happened to those taken by the sjs...
And even further, after the evolution had made us capable for space travel and maybe sending a Prometheus class vessel to the star system, it would trigger their counter measures to wipe out Earth as a possible threat of their race.
The fact that we find no sjs, apparently alive on LV, might also have something to do, with the kidnapping of our ancestors in the past. Maybe showing a slowly dying race, struggling to find a way to immortality, and needed hopelessly our live stock to implement it.
Share your thoughts. It's free and most welcome.
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stevejodMay 05, 2012
Rather than an invitation could the pictograms be a warning - ie don't go to this star system?

GalzuMay 05, 2012
If your using the real life mythologies from all those areas the most common 2 stories are 1)our creation by the Gods and )2 the great war in heaven(sky/space) over what to do with us (we were a "resource"). One group wanted us to be our own beings and fought to protect us against a rogue group who wanted to "use, corrupt, and destroy" us.
My theory is a group of beings fashioned a lesser race (than them) to help them, and they both fashioned us. They saw how we developed so much and exalted us above the original lesser race. Some of the lesser race didnt like this and decided to overthrow the Gods, take their place, and use us for "whatever they wanted". The war breaks out and the "dissenters" eventually lose and are banished.
This same story is relayed in every single ancient religion.
Its possible the Gods were saying to stay away from LV223 because that is where they banished the "demons". They would leave this message because they knew we would grow unabated now that the demons were "imprisoned".
The derelict could have been trying to transport the demon's eggs to the prison for disposal and never quite made it. It made an emergency landing on lV426 and left a signal to stay away.
Whatever the Prometheus crew do, it wakes up either a "warden" or a "Demon". If the Gods race is dying or extinct, we are the only remaining containers of their DNA (made in their image). The Warden tries to go to earth to rebuild the race or the "demon" tries to go back to Earth to finish the job he got imprisoned for.


want-to-see-prometheusNOW!May 05, 2012
Silliness aside, I can say for sure that those character's are telling their story, the story of the species that wrote them, probably important events.

Ghost SolitareMay 05, 2012
That's one way of looking at it. If indeed our primordial DNA became entangled with that of one of the actual Engineers, imagine if some type of ancestral memory was passed down through the generations to the offspring. Over time their distinguishing physical traits would fade until they were as David, physically indistinguishable from the person standing next to you. Though such individuals might possess a superior intellect that would have earned them titles such as Shamen, Oracles, Medicine men, even heretics in less evolved societies. Even The Nephilim (Hebrew: נפלים, Nefilīm) were a race that came to dominate the antediluvian (pre-flood) world, and are referred to in the Bible as the heroes of old, men of renown. They were reportedly the children born to the "Sons of God" by the "daughters of men", and are described as giants. It is also most important to note that they are mentioned almost simultaneous to God's statement that He would destroy the earth by flood, and it seems from this association that their effect upon mankind was one of the primary justifications that brought the destruction. If you interpret this in the broadest sense, we have been taught to believe that our world was visited by beings from elsewhere.
[i][i]When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years." The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them[/i[/i][i][/i]]." - Genesis 6:1-7 (NIV)d
I have read a question in many posts as well as wondered myself. "What could we have done that would have made the SJ's wish to destroy us as an entire species?" Well if we were the unexpected progeny of a being banished from them eons ago, in their view "WE" would be "CORRUPT, UNNATURAL, and a last laugh in the face of those who thought they had imprisoned something unwanted so long ago on a planet far, far away.

CypherMay 05, 2012
Directions to the bowling alley? :-P
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cursum_perficioMay 05, 2012
these hieroglyphs have me perplexed....it looks like they also are in the huge temple/ship, and in one of the trailers it looks like David says to Shaw, I hope you can read this/these.....so why would hieroglyphs coincide with such advanced technology....cant figure that out, unless there is another race/species....so are there primitves on the LV-223 or do these advanced races still use wall carvings?

jenskarlssonMay 05, 2012
i remember seeing a documentary on educational television many years ago about two temples from two different cultures and two different time frames who's ground layouts were nearly identical. i cant remember much detail about which cultures they were now, but they were in two very separate parts of the world and time. the similarities between them greatly puzzled everyone until it was found that they were both mapped based on the same constellation which in the two different time periods would have been visible to the people in each area respectively. i wish i could remember more clearly about this but it was a while back. i dont know if anyone else here is familiar with this but i thought that it might have been a concept that some of this stuff for prometheus may have drawn upon. either way i thought it was pretty interesting. if i am able to find out more about this i will update.

SpartacusMay 05, 2012
you all made such wonderful amazing inspiring posts I had to come in and try to make something of a contribution...because I felt intellectually challenged to after reading all of what all of you wrote and I realized one thing really special above and separate from anything else...and for the first time when you roll it over your tongue it feels really really nice...AND IT'S A sPARTACUS ORIGINAL...LMAO...[b]"tHIS...iS tHE aLIEN fILM, rIDLEY sCOTT wANTED tO mAKE 33 yEARS aGO bUT tHE sTUDIO, FoX, wOULDN'T lET hIM" !!![/b]

RuhaniyaMay 05, 2012
It tells us that aliens invented writing to communicate with humans cause telepathy wasn't working
[img]http://zombieroom.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/07-What-Are-Little-Girls-Made-Of.jpg[/img]
The Invasion of your mind has already begun!
abordoliMay 05, 2012
OMG. I hate long-winded posts and walls-of-texts. Have you guys thought about saving a little something back for your retort? LOL. ; )
I'm sorry, but it seems like the posts are getting longer and longer as we get closer and closer to the release of Prometheus.
Great thought provoking ideas! Unlike Spartacus, I can't even begin to think of anything to add to this symphony of genius.
I need to go to sleep......


SpartacusMay 06, 2012
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abordoliMay 06, 2012
I was about to have a brain aneurysm from "thinking way too much" about this movie.

GalzuMay 06, 2012
Is it common practice on this site for Staff members to Hi-Jack, derail, and belittle intelligent threads?


BiomechanicMay 06, 2012

SpartacusMay 06, 2012
[quote]Is it common practice on this site for Staff members to Hi-Jack, derail, and belittle intelligent threads?[/quote]
so sorry to hear you both feel that way, personally I feel like I can't win,and Bomechanic knows well that I have supported him for along long time now in almost everything he has said... and despite the fact I think that what was just said is way harsh and not really fair considering my intentions......I respect what you said and humbley apologize to you for my part in that. For the road to hell was paved with good intentions...again...my apologies to you both for my part.


GalzuMay 06, 2012
@Spartacus What are you trying to "win"? My comment is not harsh because its accurate. 90% of your posts are Hijacks that have nothing to do with Prometheus or the Topic of the thread. They don't add value at all or continue the discussion at hand. Apologies mean nothing when you continue to deliberately diminish the value of the forum.
It's really bad when the moderators break their own forum rules and need to have someone supervising them.

SpartacusMay 06, 2012
could someone please tell me where I expressed any desire to "win" anything this morning, if I am not mistaken Galzu all i have done here today in this thread is apologize to you.
[quote]90% of your posts are Hijacks that have nothing to do with Prometheus or the Topic of the thread.[/quote]
I have made over 4000 posts here since Early September, would like to place a bet on that one that 90% are posted in the community section and that 95% of all of my posts are dead bang on topic?!!!
[quote]Apologies mean nothing when you continue to deliberately diminish the value of the forum.[/quote]
My honest belief is that my being here has greatly enhanced not only the content of this forum, and I could show you some of my threads that 100% prove this, but I have also attracted many prominent outside sponsors and associates who otherwise would not have bothered to frequent this forum or give it the support it is getting right now.
[quote]It's really bad when the moderators break their own forum rules and need to have someone supervising them. [/quote]
You like everyone else here are entitled to your opinions and to express them in a respectable manner, but that in no way means anyone has to agree with you or not agree with you...right? Never mind...it's a rhetorical question.
Good Day To You.

RuhaniyaMay 06, 2012
I got a pictogram for you guys
[img]http://us7.memecdn.com/Waka-Waka-Waka-Waka_o_46442.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.israbox.com/uploads/posts/2010-10/1286353009_4-waka-waka-dance-party-2010.jpg[/img]

GalzuMay 06, 2012
"so sorry to hear you both feel that way, personally I feel like I can't win"
What are you trying to win?
There's a big difference between opinion and fact. Conveniently, you try to mesh the two whenever you are in question. What i stated is not an opinion, its fact. Verifiable by data. Use this thread alone as a sample.

SpartacusMay 06, 2012
ok Galzu I get it you win...now can the rest of us all get back to the lovin please...?

GalzuMay 06, 2012
Who is this "us"? You only speak for yourself. Dont retreat behind nonexistent masses when your called out. For someone who is about to turn 50 you sure do react like a prepubescent child.

RuhaniyaMay 06, 2012
I think the part "Share your thoughts. It's free and most welcome". Brought me here and to tell you the truth those pictograms aren't really telling me much other than they relate to earths ancient human civilization cause are very similar to Sumarian style. In fact, at this point I'm hoping it will all be a nice surprise to find out what they actually communicate.
[[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_DS3Axl118Ng/Sn1YE5lrcgI/AAAAAAAAF9M/8FWCGs0gZy8/s400/Crop-Circles-marijuana-leaf.jpg[/img]
You guys need to lighten up...it's really all speculation [?]

SpartacusMay 06, 2012
[b]WAKA WAKA WELL SAID WAKA WAKA LMFAO[/b]
[img][img]http://us7.memecdn.com/Waka-Waka-Waka-Waka_o_46442.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.israbox.com/uploads/posts/2010-10/1286353009_4-waka-waka-dance-party-2010.jpg[/img][/img]
sukkalMay 06, 2012
@Galzu, I'm FIRMLY in your camp. Your post of May-05-2012 8:21 PM in this thread was EXACTLY the kind of dialogue that this site could most benefit from and this thread has been completely hijacked by people who don't care about the topic at all and are not interested in learning anything new about the real Earth history that may have informed the writing of this film. I grow quite weary of all the Waka-waka-ing going on around here.
[Leaves. Feeling defeated.]

NCC 1701May 06, 2012
nice Ruhaniya ,,,,, nice,,, well said and love the pic
but the kirk one OMG What is that,,,

RuhaniyaMay 06, 2012
I have no idea what that picture is from I just googled in "To boldly go where no one has gone before" and clicked on Images Oh sorry pictograms and that's what I got. I'm sure the alien was impressed too! Get them back for all that forced probing. Now that we have confirmed the aliens intentions to humanity through pictographs....IS there anything else we need to know?

abordoliMay 06, 2012
It seems that folks need to seriously lighten up around here. This is a community and in any community you're going to have "class clowns". It relieves a bit of the tension that we are all experiencing. I have more respect for those that can have a giggle (i.e. LOL) and continue with the topic, but griping about a staff member (or any other member) because they decided to lighten the mood of a post is a bit ridiculous. Laugh, shrug it off, and continue.
As far as entire threads being deleted. The owner of this site has good reasons to do so. I personally have requested that certain threads be deleted for the benefit of this community. So don't blame the owner and staff. Blame some of the veterans here that also "police" these forums to make it the best Prometheus movie site currently on the world-wide internet.
I'm sorry to hear folks leaving because XYZ was the last straw. Why not take a few days off the forum and come back with a clearer mindset. We are ultimately here to have fun. Fun is defined differently by different users and as far as "very thought-provoking topics" being poked fun at, hijacked, or un-warrantly criticized---Welcome to the Internet!!! It ain't no different anywhere else than it is here.

ChrisMay 06, 2012
Let's get back on topic please. [b]markos_prometheus[/b] has made an interesting thread - what do the pictograms tell us? Let's keep the topic base around what the topic is actually about, thanks.

SpartacusMay 06, 2012
I can do that very easily, and as I have said in many many threads now...
Not Much as many of us have stated...
#1-There is NO WAY, the pictograms are an Invitation to anything. No Alien Race in it's right mind is gonna send out 7 seperate invites basically covering all of this earth so that it could happen where everyone on earth randomly shows up on the Space Jockeys Home world for dinner. And I use that description to make a point...because firstly they wouldn't have enough food to feed us all, and secondly, because it's just nonsense to me and imo.
#2- In all likelihood what that is, what they all are, are clearly an acknowledgment that something from the same star system was noticed and worshiped and immortalized in stone tablets by all the people in that immediate area and at that estimated time period in history.
#3-It also contains an element that IMO LOGIC dictates it should be taken seriously and treated no differently than any warning. There's a good chance something will pop up from that same system again some day.
Bonus Edit: Looks like there is evidence of some kind of Organ Transplantation experimentation no?, is their a Human with a horses head in any of them?, can't really tell and won't really know I guess 'till we see them close up in the movie.
sukkalMay 06, 2012
[quote=BugHunter][i]Let's get back on topic please. markos_prometheus has made an interesting thread - what do the pictograms tell us? Let's keep the topic base around what the topic is actually about, thanks.[/i][/quote]
Obviously this is the individual paying the bills around here...
Where are the [u]clearest[/u] still images of what is being discussed for this topic?
Organ transplantation?...
offtopic (again)
And as a recommendation to the operators who ARE vested in this beyond waka-waka-ing (hint to BugHunter), I suggest you think about how topics might be compartmentalized and moderated by individuals who find them more to their own taste and style. Some areas of the internet ARE different. Members [u]needing[/u] to "leave and take a few days off" is not good for your stickiness.
/offtopic

GalzuMay 06, 2012
@ abordoli Wipe that brown stuff off your face.
You are so off base on so many levels. "Lighten the mood of a thread" Really? Five posts in? "Welcome to the internet" Really? Why even have mods then?. Im sorry the thinking Folk oppose your short attention span.
It one thing to have spam users and "Class Clowns", its another to have said Mods/Staff doing it the most. If you want to see who can be the silliest, make a private chat room. Dont use a site dedicated to a Movie as the playground. Some of the members (that are still here) actually are interested in the Movie and Theories about it.
No worries though, i will no longer be clogging up the forum with intelligent discussion. Lets just make the forum a contest to see who can post the the most irrelevant, inane responses and unrelated "clever" pics from the web. Shouldnt be too hard for those who have cognitive impairment. The site is already 80% there.
abordoliMay 06, 2012
The geographically and chronologically distant pictograms tells us that the SJs have had multiple visits to Earth and during a short "window" relative to the age of the Earth (say the between 3500 BC to 1500 AD).
That tells us:
1) They only come every so often (every 1000 years) and we are due for another visit (ahem...Dec 2012...hint...hint.. ; ) )
2) The SJs reached their civilization peak and are now a expiring race....no more visits.
3) Nothing at all....Humans simply aren't that interesting. Meddle with us, give us some evolutionary pushes and we're STILL......boring (i.e The Dark Ages).
4) Will add more later as the discussion continues.
GuestMay 06, 2012
[quote=abordoli][i]1) They only come every so often (every 1000 years) and we are due for another visit (ahem...Dec 2012...hint...hint.. ; ) )
2) The SJs reached their civilization peak and are now a expiring race....no more visits.[/i][/quote]
I knew there had to be a good reason for all this doom this year. It would be a good idea to try to figure out which earth cultures the "map pictogram" illustrations are associated with and see where they DO fine on our timeline.
Point number 2 then leads to the question "why now, after all those eons?" Perhaps they made too many mistakes in the lab and it's literally come back to bite them (from the inside out).
I am assuming that the stars in the illustrations in question are meant to mirror something like, if not precisely, the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades]Pleiades[/url].
[img]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pleiades_large.jpg[/img]
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