Alien Movie Universe

Original Derelict Signal

3970 Views38 Replies
Forum Topic

Molecular

MemberOvomorphMay-09-2012 3:57 PM
Ridley clarified that the derelict was in fact millions of years old and that the events in Prometheus take place a few decades before the events of ALIEN. Given that the SJ in the original derelict was fossilized and that the alien ship in Prometheus looks different (and is airborne at some point), then it's probably safe to assume two different ships. But then why did the crew of Prometheus not pick up the signal when they arrived at the other moon of the ringed planet (I know Ridley said it's not LV-426 but the designation was still LV-something, wish I remembered the number). If this has been discussed before, I apologize but the pieces are just not fitting together. =(
38 Replies

Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else

MemberOvomorphMay-10-2012 4:55 AM
Hmmm.. Thats really interesting 'thought experiment' as I like to call it. Perhaps that then implies that the planetoid (LV-426) had some interstellar signifigance, a focal point of activity for some possible reccuring reason. Or it could mean, this is the local system the floating 'Derilict' just happend tocome in to contact with do to the effects exreted upon it by the planetary systems gravity well and it just happens to be LV-426 that it crash landed upon. It's an interesting hypothosis and i had never really thought about it until you mentioned it here. It made me sit up slightly and do a doulble-take "Oh, yeah!" moment. Well done to you for that Probe_Ation. Well done!

Aquila210

MemberOvomorphMay-10-2012 5:46 AM
Ahem. Have I missed something or where is the indication that LV426 is even near the Prometheus moon? It's just a categorizing number for a stellar object, isn't it? Could be anywhere, so why should the Prometheus crew pick up the signal from there? I think we have to clearly separate the storylines from Prometheus and Alien once and for all. Prometheus will give answers related to the Alien story universe but certainly will not link directly to the Alien movie, maybe this is an option for Prometheus 2. Cheers, Aquila210

Molecular

MemberOvomorphMay-10-2012 8:55 AM
I can see now that there are a lot of viable, technical reasons for Prometheus not picking up the signal and there's much you can do with this story-wise, too. I was making it too simple in my head, and you guys really blew the door open on this one. Now all I need is for someone to tell me there exists an official translation of what the SJ said during the transmission and I'll be happy. Nah just kidding... now I'm being too demanding. =)

probe_ation

MemberOvomorphMay-10-2012 9:03 AM
Cheers Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else & everyone else contributing to the conversation... Let's say LV-233 was the original target for the 'Derelict' (either for strategic or some other purpose); all of the Prometheus preview info seems to indicate this is the case. The SJ suffers it's fate in transit, activates the beacon as a distress / warning as a final act & the craft drifts off course due to lack of pilot control. Ends up on LV-426 well after it was due on LV-233 & this is where the events of Alien pick up the story...

donye_west

MemberOvomorphMay-10-2012 9:50 AM
I think the major point that needs clarification for everyone: The derelict, according to Scott, did *not* crash. Aquila: *Ahem* As far as any correlation between LV-426 and LV-223 is concerned - LV-426 is in the Zeta Reticuli system while LV-223 is in the Zeta2 Reticuli system. They aren't on polar opposites of the galaxy. If normal naming conventions follow then Zeta was found before Zeta2 so Zeta2 may actually be further away. This would also follow the LV-426(10Mo) and LV-223(2Yr) travel times. Furthermore, LV-426 is even mentioned on the Weyland Industries website, which was created due to Prometheus - Direct link established. Cheers back atcha.

NoXWord

MemberOvomorphMay-10-2012 10:12 AM
Actually, LV-426 is in the Zeta II Ret system, not Zeta I Ret, so they're not far off from each other (LV-223 and LV-426). That doesn't necessarily imply that they are satellites of the same planet, though. The fact that the Nostromo takes 10 months to get back, while Prometheus takes 2.5 years, can be due to the fact that the Nostromo has better and more advanced engines than the Prometheus (which basically is a prototype).
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.

probe_ation

MemberOvomorphMay-10-2012 10:54 AM
@ donye_west The way the functional craft are presented in the Prometheus footage & the way the derelict (not functional craft?) is shown in Alien suggests otherwise, but obviously we should be acknowledging the director's information... Unless this is summore disinformation... So I think as it's seen in Alien; that ship has crashed.

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteMay-11-2012 4:40 AM
1. Ridley said the technology was millions of years old, not the Derelict. 2. The Sj was NOT fossilized, its decayed/mummified. 3. The Prometheus probably didn't pick up the signal because they didn't know what bandwidth to search for, but after Prometheus they probably do, hence they find the Derelict.

Add A Reply

Join the discussion! Sign in using your Scified Account to add your say!

New to the site? You can create your own profile in seconds!

* Signing in also removes ads *

Alien Movie Universe Forums
Alien
AlienDiscuss all things Alien here
Alien: Covenant
Alien: CovenantDiscuss the Prometheus Sequel, Alien: Covenant
Prometheus
PrometheusEverything About Prometheus
Alien: Romulus
Alien: RomulusDiscuss the new Fede Alvarez Alien movie here
Alien: Earth Series
Alien: Earth SeriesDiscuss the Alien FX TV series here!
Alien Movies
Alien MoviesDiscuss the Classic Alien Films
Prometheus Fan Art
Prometheus Fan ArtArtwork & Fiction From the Fans
Alien Games
Alien GamesDiscuss Alien games here
Alien 5 Movie
Alien 5 MovieDiscuss Neill Blomkamps’s vision for Alien 5 here
New Forum Topics
Hot Forum Topics
Highest Forum Ranks Unlocked
ninXeno426
ninXeno426 » Praetorian
62% To Next Rank
Thoughts_Dreams
Thoughts_Dreams » Neomorph
88% To Next Rank
Jonesy
Jonesy » Chestburster
51% To Next Rank
MuzzleNZ
MuzzleNZ » Facehugger
33% To Next Rank
damiendada
damiendada » Ovomorph
68% To Next Rank
Unofficial Alien Animated Series
Alien: Analects - the unofficial Alien animated series
Watch Alien: Analects - The unofficial Alien animated series we created! Visit the official page!
Latest Media
Community Stats
This Alien Movie Universe community is part of the Scified network. Scified hosts a network of online fan-site communities containing 406,050 posts by 48,357 members (4 are online now). The Alien Forum is the most recently active forum. The latest Forum topic added was: Alright! Alien Earth trailer! (Xenomorphing podcast)
VIPWhat are VIP?AdminModeratorSpecial TitleMember

This website provides the latest information, news, rumors and scoops on the Alien: Romulus movie and Alien TV series for FX! Get the latest news on the Alien prequels, sequels, spin-offs and more. Alien movie, game and TV series news is provided and maintained by fans of the Alien film franchise. This site is not affiliated with 20th Century Studios, FX, Hulu, Disney or any of their respective owners.

© 2025 Scified.com
New Member? Join Up!
Create A Profile

Remove Ads, Contribute Content, Win Prizes!

Already A Member? Sign in


Log in to view your personalized notifications across Scified!

Transport To Communities
AlienFansite
GodzillaFansite
PredatorFansite
Search Scified
Main Menu
Community
Sci-Fi Movies
Help & Info