Advanced Civilization?

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MemberOvomorphMay 11, 20121680 Views16 RepliesOkay, so ridley in script said that prometheus crew meets advanced civilization but their behavior is not so civilized. So my point is if we meet any other new species in the galaxy or some part of the universe, are we civilized enough to keep a distance ? What makes us more trustworthy compared to SJs or other aliens? I understand that aggressive species who feed of less powerful species or species which are using weak organism for their own benefit don't deserve civilized talks, but doesn't that apply to us too.
We humans are not in sync with each other, so why expect aliens to be more mellow? Also why ridley puts a plot of advanced civilization using less advanced civilization for their own benefit type plot that was used already in AVP? (You know humans sacrificed for raising aliens in pyramids one).
Isn't this a rehash?
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May 12, 2012
@Vader, that's what I am thinking so far. As long as anyone with god-like power can replicate our race, there seems to be no justification needed for mass killing from them on planet earth. Love for our species is delusional in religion.
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May 11, 2012
A creature which can create or destroy life and has God-like powers might not conform to our human, moral boundaries of good and evil.
May 11, 2012
If we follow the behavior of our creators, and the Engineers created us, I'd say it's more like "Monkey see, monkey do," sorta thing..........
And no, I don't think it's a re-hash, more like "This is why you see what you saw in the first place and how it got to that point........."
Maybe........
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May 11, 2012
Well, I would say that an advanced civilization would stay away from others, untill those others would be advanced enough [i.e scientifically and spiritually] to engage in contact.
Of course there could also be the case that an advanced civilization would pretty much see others as mere animals to research upon [in secrecy or openly].
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May 11, 2012
I dont think that all the Engineers would had been bad....
Just who is left is one bad apple...
Bit like Aliens come to Earth after WW2 where the Earth was wiped off all Mankind apart from Hitler who got into his special bunker and survived.
The Last Engineer could be the Hitler of their race ;)
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May 11, 2012
A REHASH?!!!! How could you even insinuate such blasphemeous things!! A rehash really? Of one of the worst movies that it has been my eternal disappointment and displeasure to own on DVD.
May 11, 2012
"Civilized" is a relative term. To lower life forms yes, we probably are but this is the 21st Century and we're still trying to find the best way to kill one another. Actually, in thousands of years of recorded history, humanity hasn't improved at all.
May 11, 2012
People have a desire to place too much trust and power into the hands of emotional and intelectual juveniles. It's quite stunning and completely disheartening, how a few self centered, power hungry, dishonest, psychologicaly damaged and emotionaly crippled men, have wound up ruling the world. People revolt against growing up and taking responsibility for themselves rather than the fictional clowns who attempt to divide and conquer our society. Real evil looks hip, and progressive and sexy. Life isn't any of those things. Life is challenges and adaptation. Life is renewal and transfer of DNA and information. Life is respecting what God and Nature have given us and learning to exhalt those people and things that are true and positive and healthy for the betterment of the individual and society as a whole. Freedom and creativity are essential for any society to grow and expand and remain strong. Respect for both man and woman is also a requisite for a fully functional, healthy environment under which we can all flourish. Those cultures which minimize, ignore or even denegrate women are unhealthy and destructive to their own people. I believe most people are good and do the best they know how. It is the lies and deciet and the diversions put forward by our leaders that can sometimes bring an end to an otherwise worthy society or culture. So have we improved at all?? Individually, I think the average person is more aware and tolerant of others. Collectively, when herded into divisive groups by opportunistic leaders, we resort to a caveman mentality. Life owes us nothing and requires everything from us. That is how we grow and become strong. Following leaders who promise to provide us with whatever we desire make us weak. The world will fail when good men and women do nothing and the weak are trained to desire everything without the will to earn it.
May 11, 2012
Discrimination is easy to justify.
People here on earth are in many cases extremely cruel towards animals and other living creatures. Why is this? The most basic defense to these actions is that only humans think, only humans have feelings, only humans are better than everything else. So it's about racial superiority complex, which itself isnt that far off from what the Nazis were doing and aiming for.
Only difference is that animals probably wont defend themselves with guns and tanks.
In the same way, for some much superior and more advanced species, killing humans and treating them as nothing, is easily justified if their morals are as good as our morals here on Earth are.
Besides, maybe their laws are similar as in some southern states of USA, trespassers on your yard can be shot and killed without warning or asking questions.
So if this is the case, they have every reason to kill us, as we landed on their property without permission, and then entered their buidling, without permission. And most of all, stole stuff from there, or atleast trailers seem to indicate that the crew took something from there.
May 11, 2012
Dunno why theyve gone down the "flying Saucer" route! just doesnt seem to fit in with the whole thing...
May 11, 2012
What do I think of Western civilization? I think it would be a very good idea.
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May 11, 2012
Yeah but remember when the "westeners" found america or what not, what happened?! if one advanced species finds a less advanced etc shit will hit the fan...eventually...
May 11, 2012
It's still pretty widely believed in the scientific community that if a civilization is advanced enough for interstellar exploration that they must be culturally "mature" enough to not do the whole conquistador thing. The reasoning behind this is that the leap to becoming a spacefaring civilization requires such a degree of stability and cooperation on a planetary scale that such a culture would have had to have moved beyond nationalist/imperialist drives. So that's one of the reasons folks have been expecting any contact we have with aliens to be peaceful explorers rather than conquerors.
The problem with this viewpoint is that it presupposes that alien civilizations behave the same way humans do on a large scale, which could be correct but doesn't have to be. One can imagine numerous evolutionary paths a species could take to produce an advanced technology without any corresponding cultural enlightenment. And it seems increasingly more likely that any race advanced enough to have interstellar travel at this point so early on in the universe's history would probably subscribe to the same sort of "manifest destiny" viewpoint that informed much of America's early history.