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This is Your Life - The Space Jockey or The Engineer

Gem]n[

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A thing that is nibbling at my (small) brain for a bit now (ok a lot) over a long period since the inception of this new movie, is ... if these SJ's or Engineers (whatever) have been around for AGES (donkeys years - Milenia?) is that really all they're designed for? ... creation of life? ... nothing else? ...

As Humans we do a heck of a lot of things for a species ... when you sit down and think about it ... SJs don't seem to do anything near what we do ... we go out and get plastered, socialise at events, have theatres, drive around in cars, listen to music, have living rooms with the latest cool gadgets ... go out and eat at a restuarant ... take photos ... funfairs ... designing new technology ... WHAT THE HELL DO THEY ACTUALLY DO ... when they're not creating other Species or Life? ... do they do WHAT US HUMANS do in anyway or form? ... WHY are they there/here if they have no other life? and how boring their lives must be ... all those years and no fun? ...

These are questions that I know may never get answered by anyone ... but those are the sort of things I would love to know ... I know Ridders said that the 2nd Prometheus movie will concentrate on the Space Jockey's homeworld ... I do hope it does and give us a real insight on what these creatures are all about ...

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Well, we are only seeing the outpost and the ones that are in space. Presumably they have one or more homeworlds where they have theatre and nightlife. May as well ask from the original alien's perspective on encountering the Nostromo what is wrong with humans because there wasn't a library or museum onboard. Based on the murals and statues on the SJ outpost world I think it is safe to safe that they have some highly-developed artists. And when you have biology as your canvas it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to imagine that those aren't so much temples as they are museums or galleries.
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In the original Spaiths script my understanding is the intended implication was YES they were just going around the galaxy seeding planets through the Terra-Forming methods used which included the original harvesting of the Xenomoprh
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Gem]n[
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@Sky ... Yes the Comicon interviews are ringing a bell ... thanks ...
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Sky
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I think there was interview during comicon and RS said that, I guess there is link in wikipedia if i remember.
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Gem]n[
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I knew someone would ask that ... ang on was a WHILE back ... :/ ... hope I bookmarked it ...
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Can you point me to where RS said that the sequel concentrate on the SJs homeworld please? I'd love to read that.
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That is a good question. What do they "do"? First how old is their species? Presumably thru have been around since long before there were humans, since it seems possible they aided in our evolution. I would think their culture and reasoning would be far beyond what we could comprehend. Partly Lovecraftian, I guess. They find hospitable (or inhospitable) planets to cultivate/create life from/on. Is that their only purpose? Are they trying to find/create a perfect life form, or find ways to bend the universe to their will? Are they trying to find methods to increase or improve their own species' evolution? Are they trying to create a thriving universe with a multitude of highly evolved species? Are we their lab rats?
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Gem]n[
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[b]HERE'S A THING: (off topic for a bit)[/b] This has been a theory of mine, from back when I was able to think for myself properly, after reading a lot of SciFi literature ... What if there are parallel worlds out there, like ours ... and they were created at the same time as ours ... Dinosuars and all ... but they didn't have an Asteroid hit their world (mass extinction) but are still evolving from the Dinosaurs? ... that 'could' be a possiblility why they have not yet got technology to travel out in space ... we are more advanced in that form ... there's a movie right there lol ... That has been my whole look on there's got to be life out there ... somewhere ... You could also argue about other worlds that may have had their evolution interupted by nature itself and so bypassed their version of the Dinosaurs all together ... therefore they WOULD be far more advanced than we are with their technology by millions of years no? ....................... oh sh!t ... SJ's? ... lol ... I know those theories above are way out there (like most of my theories lol) and by describing, I'm saying they were created by 'elvolving out of the water' (similar to us - The Dawin way) ... which totally goes against the grain of this movie ... or does it? ... Believe it or not ... I DON'T drink ... maybe I should ... hahaha ... it's just that I have a brain that tends to think outside the box ... too often ...
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Ya, those are cool ideas, but are we sure that the space jockeys are the bad guys?
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My theory. SJs are SJs, not humans. They had some kind of trouble over the long evolution that made them unable to replicate, give birth to be able to save their race from extinction. (like us humans or animals have "sex" to give life and maintain it) So the SJs are jockey-ing through space, observing lifeforms, species, to come up with a modification to their own "DNA" system or whatever they have, so they can "cure" themselves in a manner so they can reproduce properly. They construct (like a GOD) a life-form capable of doing the things SJs want. Like reproduction. Having a "life". Being so versatile to maintain every aspect of life, survive through tough things and so on. They create an extremely resilient type of lifeform that can stay alive even on top of an iceberg (like a virus or bacteria that eats up things and multiplies). So SJs thought: -Oki we have this new species, but to be able to examine its "structure" (DNA) we gonna "inject" a planet with them so they grow, populate, give births, have lifes and see what becomes of them. Space Jockeys give great hope to their new project. They are desperate. This new species resembles the SJs, two legs, two arms, "like a human". So they create one. (like humans created DAVID who is nearly fully human-like) This new creature evolves, thinks, lives, and becomes tired of being the test subject of the SJs so it tries to escape. Lets think of it as a programmed, genetically engineered creature with the goal of reproduction and staying alive, keeping the species alive. Somehow it disrupts something so it can escape but the SJs can not follow or stop it. It somehow lands on a planet (Earth) it was ment to land on but with its own motivations, and preprogrammed goals. Humankind emerges. It is like a caveman because it came from a super advanced place and ended up on Earth, where there is water, rock, animals and plants. So this human species starts its own evolution until the days the movie talks about. So boom people on earth start to evolve. To a point humans will be capable of going back to their origins, up to the space jockeys. So they do, and we know humans: humans sometimes make stupid selfish stuff like getting power only for themselves. So humans up there (at least 1 or 2 of them) are jealous and think: hey the "god's" (SJ's) tech is right here, lets steal it for our needs and make weapons! Prometheus was punished in the myth. Maybe SJs became so advanced, they could "fuse" with material, but in the long evolution process they lost their GIFT or ability of being reproductive. Thats how i think about it like their punishment. Our punishment? (us humans) I think about it like we were playing god, creating DAVID, but our own creation screwd us up (not necessarily intentially cuz DAVID wasnt a human, only close to it) by altering the "human DNA" to create more perfect humans. DAVID thinks he is alone, so he tries to create a more superb version of himself ending up creating an ALIEN which tries to escape. DAVID thought with his semi-human thinking mechanism. Here is advanced tech DNA altering stuff, lets make a more advanced form of humans. So they need less things to advance in life, reproduce easier, grow faster. DAVE altered the species but it escaped, going through evolutionary phases very fast. I think they will kill it but DAVE makes another one and makes it so that the last SJ is infected with it. So the "derelict" ship flyes away but humans know about this and want to stop it by crashing a ship into it so it lands on LV426, stopping the threat travelling to earth. So the SJs were not ment to destroy earths population, they were going to create a new race they can observe and learn from and later on create a cure for their reproductive ability. New race created, incredible ability to live on earth but this species destroys the SJs. DAVID enhances this to xenomorph levels and xeno destroys humans. Its a vicious circle, its about decieving your creator, like humans deceived their god in the bible. So they unpurposedly created a "weapon" not a race they can benefit from. So humans became a threat to them, like we see in the movie cuz hell breaks loose there and u can belive me when i say it wasnt the SJ who started it. Please tell me what u all think.
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Some nice theories there but i dont think thats whats going on, i have some theories but they are like Essays lol... Maybe the Jockies do get bored, maybe they decided to invent something to keep themselves entertained... They see mankind has fun with board games, and want to create their own Snakes and Ladders... Only theres was a bit more real and got out of hand lol... PS thats not my theory thats just as joke about what Jockeys could do instead of sit around all day.... Maybe LV223 was like a intergalactic Job Centre to them?

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Interesting.

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