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alterlater
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 1:42 PMI hope everyone read it long time ago
http://filmophilia.com/2011/12/17/interview-ridley-scott-talks-prometheus-giger-beginning-of-man-and-original-alien/
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Sky
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 1:48 PMShe's too cool to get killed.. Must be a character with some purpose and end of lifecycle in second part lol
Uncertainty is the only certainty there is, and knowing how to live with insecurity is the only security.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 1:48 PMI predict Shaw Murders her when she finds out Vickers is spying for Yutani and wants a sample of the creature for weapons development, {maybe even finds this out through David's mind/dream reading ability} and competition and revenge after the lost lawsuit on the corporate timeline for Weyland. And that took some digging and hard work to come up with folks ! I stick by it and am proud of it ! It could be completely wrong but I like it and am sticking with it and will be the first to laugh at myself later on when we all come back in here after seeing this thing.

David 1
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 1:51 PMI hope everyone dies horrorbilly. Android(s) included.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Sky
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 1:54 PMWell if Yutani and Weyland are going to merge(in future as per the other storylines) then spying doesn't make sense. Hmm, must be some other agenda like taking the risk to bring creature to earth, risking lives of people on earth?
Uncertainty is the only certainty there is, and knowing how to live with insecurity is the only security.

alterlater
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 1:58 PMso article gives us an answer on a quastion that sirculates at this forum. Is it David's body and detached head or an empty suit lying next to blue guy. And what if Ridley ment "till [Vicker's] end"... =)

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 1:58 PMI think that's exactly it Sky I think that's always been it.."The Tech" ! "Terra-Forming" and "everything a Weapon Can do that's made out of that thing" !

DippyBird
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:01 PMI don't know, I like your theory Spartacus, but I don't see Shaw as being a murderer - but hey, I've not been knocked up with an alien creature, so I can't really comment on what that would do to you!
I think that she's there to ensure that they do what they set out to do, kind of like quality assurance, but that she has another agenda we've yet to see. Seeing as everything we've been told/shown about her depicts her as being detached and very 'corporate', perhaps RS will make her more nuanced and layered and once the s*** hits the fan, her human side comes to the fore?
I just think the hole Burke schtik's been done, why retread it?

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:04 PMIMO it ain't "murder" if it's done in the name of mankind and if you suspect something may be "OFF" with the spy your intend to kill, like say, she's a plant, or better yet, a hidden android. LOL. I still like it.

Juxtapose
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:05 PMI think her character dies after the juggernaut runs her over....i hope it's not the case...we will definitely have her around till at least halfway threw the 3rd act...i think?...i don't think her character is all bad tho....she knows something the others don't and i think she might be related to Peter Weyland....she has an agenda that's for sure and she is the only one who does'nt seem very keen to meet "these beings".....like she really is hoping they are wrong...
they say it will be explained why she comes across as being so cold and frigid by the third act....should be interesting...but in the end she probably dies....booo hooo!....i like her!

DippyBird
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:07 PMNo, I get that. It'll be interesting to see if she is an android - from what I've seen she's very survival oriented! That's be a first for an android from an Alien film, usually their programming gets in the way... but then again perhaps she's "more human than human" - if you catch my drift.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:08 PM@Justapose,
very well thought out and interesting, thanks for sharing I like that too and it's "prolly" closer to true than my prediction.

DippyBird
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:13 PMActually, having a wee bit longer to think about your idea, I can actually see Shaw becoming a bit more wild and fierce after being knocked up with that thing. We saw how fierce Ripley became after watching it decimate her crew, I can only imagine what having one invade you would make you do to survive!
As a woman, the very idea of the alien and what it does has always unsettled me, but at the same time fascinated me and it's part of the reason I love the films so much!

NoXWord
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:17 PMPIcture of Vickers instinctively protecting herself moments before being squashed by the space croissant?
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Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:20 PMI can't imagine what a forced and unwanted reluctant birth does/could do to a woman...any woman!

Juxtapose
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:22 PM@ Spartucus...thanks....well the "Girl" on twitter seems to say that weyland is seeking eternal life and that Charlize is in fact his daughter...but she want's the mission to fail..so maybe she is not very close to daddy?...perhaps she even despises him!
Besides I suppose any thing based on what the twitter girl said..... can easily be fake....u should take it with a grain of salt!

DippyBird
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:23 PMHey Charles - That's EXACTLY what i'm talking about, if she is indeed an android, she is the most interesting one I think we'll see. Perhaps more akin to a Replicant than a true android, she seems to display a will to live and protect herself unlike Bishop etc.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:25 PMCharles Montgomery Weyland (aka NoXWord)
you need a link to it from a free picture hosting site first to put that up so we can see it.

Frantz
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:25 PMwilly the coyote ending ? Can be but i find it a bit silly ( depend of course by many things ) ...rembember that in the script her would have been just a suit , a flat character . Surely Theron energy and ideas could have changed a bit ..but how much ?

DippyBird
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:28 PMThat's exactly what I'm trying to get at Frantz. We're only seeing very brief snippets of the film, so perhaps initially her calm collected character is just another suit, but as the film goes on she has to step in more and more. We've seen her handling a flamethrower, so perhaps she has to step in when Fifield(?) attacks, due to her more pragmatic nature and the others perhaps being initially hesitant to act.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:29 PMsolid point Frantz, and I suspect your right, mine is the "Fringe" out there guess based mostly on Ridleys' Personality. I think wherever it is he decided to go with for the ending of this thing, we are all going to be surprised.

NoXWord
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:31 PMFrantz, in the end, if she's run over by the juggenaut she will end as a flat suit anyway.
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.

DippyBird
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 2:34 PMLoving the avatar by the way! I'm getting a very Mr Burns vibe from Mr Weyland if he DOES turn out to be the old guy in the film!

Sky
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 3:07 PMBut.... charlize is too hot to die man :( please :D
Uncertainty is the only certainty there is, and knowing how to live with insecurity is the only security.

alterlater
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 3:18 PMwhat if she won't die. what if rolling ship will stop rolling 1 inch before her? or may be she will be sucked in one of the ships holes? )))) RS knows what he's doing. we already love Vickers and we don't want her to die. it's what warm us up. and if she dies it will be more unexaptable for us than death of Burk for example =)

DippyBird
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 3:13 PMI'm sure she'll go out guns blazing, if she can manhandle David, as we've seen in the trailers, I don't think she'll give up without a fight. Hell, we don't even know that she doesn't make it, at this stage we know very little other than some people WILL die.

Shilliam Watner
MemberOvomorphMay-13-2012 3:24 PM@ DippyBird
What if the reason she is able to manhandle David is because he is not resistent to violence and is passive in nature due to his programming? Kinda like Robbie the Robot in Forbidden Planet who would not harm or kill. When Vickers swings him around in the corridor, he doesn't show resistence and looks to be in submission.
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