Original Xenomorph - David + Bioweapon

1. Milburns snake attacker 2. Holloways eye bug thing 3. Shaws "baby" [b]News Flash for everyone , they are all the exact same organism.[/b]

Maybe a queen is already included in what ever mutates you into a SJ. You mutate hop in the chair set the destination and then fill the ship with eggs for when it gets to earth. Maybe the humans on Earth are nothing more than when ships used to seed islands with pigs, so there would be fresh meat on the next trip.

I thought this movie had nothing to do with ALIEN

Look at this, it appears there are two SJ and David is still in the star map. [url=http://www.google.com/imgres?q=space+jockey&start=102&hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1T4GGHP_enUS475US476&biw=1024&bih=589&addh=36&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=aFuqkFwjT0jQoM:&imgrefurl=http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D933069&docid=uMfHdBmY5jCBGM&imgurl=http://bigthingshavesmallbeginnings.wikispaces.com/file/view/david_and_space_jockey.gif/314970148/david_and_space_jockey.gif&w=504&h=255&ei=T8axT6PhOomy8AS2vZmSCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=665&vpy=289&dur=540&hovh=160&hovw=316&tx=207&ty=101&sig=100480441530754574700&page=6&tbnh=86&tbnw=169&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:102,i:77]Your text to link here...[/url]

It's an interesting theory Ghorgul... I'll give you that!

Maybe I forgot or truly didn't pay attention, but I always thought David would be made of specifically-engineered nanotechnology. I think silicon is a type of element that doesn't have a biological capability (at least not naturally), but then again I've not studied up much on silicon, apart from knowing(?) that it's a metallic-like thing, and I think silicon is sometimes used in technology, even computers or something. And as for "specifically-engineered nanotechnology"....well, I was thinking of something like "artificial muscle tissue", though I think such a thing would only be possible through ES cell research; I don't think embryonic stem-cells and nanotechnology are entirely one in the same, but I think they can be compatible. Even if nanotechnology isn't biological, advancements in the future are sure to create a lifeform indistinguishable from, say, a human. I think I'm losing my "knowledge" of this stuff by trying to explain it. Maybe David [i]is[/i] made of silicon. @_@

Watching one of the featurettes the skull on top of the dome/pyramid looks mighty similar to the skulls in the background of the David 8 promo.Must be some relevence maybe the technology of David was pilfered from the temple years before???????

In ALIEN, this is confirmed: [b]Ash: Well, as I said, I'm still... collating, actually, but uh, I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. Has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon, which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions. Is that enough?[/b] I think since everyone wants this film to tie into ALIEN, they keep looking for ways to link the events in Prometheus to ALIEN and this includes how the xeno came to attain both bio and mecha qualities. But the original derelict was *very* old and existed on LV-426 for decades before the events in Prometheus. This means that the xeno was made by someone else and already had that bio/mecha composition in it's DNA.

I'm not buying into David 8 being the Alien. There's a spoiler floating around on here that pretty much eliminates that anyway. I'll go with Shaw though. Wouldn't that be something?

Or at least the progenitor of it... It's quite interesting when you consider the whole Adam and Eve thing and it being woman that gets blamed for succumbing to temptation and a desire for knowledge... Shaw wants to know about our 'Gods'... and ends up being punished for it in a very graphic way. Anybody else think this is reminiscent of Eve? It would be interesting if this is the sort of spin that RS is taking... he always seems to like involving strong female characters in some sort of make or break scenario

Or at least the progenitor of it... It's quite interesting when you consider the whole Adam and Eve thing and it being woman that gets blamed for succumbing to temptation and a desire for knowledge... Shaw wants to know about our 'Gods'... and ends up being punished for it in a very graphic way. Anybody else think this is reminiscent of Eve? It would be interesting if this is the sort of spin that RS is taking... he always seems to like involving strong female characters in some sort of make or break scenario

one thing must be explained though (maybe in the last 8 minutes) ..how do the ampulles develop to Alien eggs..as the eggs clearly create Xeno DNA..

I'm sure I read somewhere on here that somebody thought that what was being extracted from Shaw was not a 'burster, but a protoform of an egg... perhaps this is how it ties in with the ampule?

This is a theory that i had.... I though the Xeno would be created via.... 1) David 8 and the Engineers Bio Former 2) Shaws Baby Squid..... The David one, with Weyland agenda and link to 2nd Andriod i think the plot is to have a Andriod combined with the Gods Fire to change a Synthetic Andriod into a Bio Mechanical one, where it becomes part biolgical and thus turns David 8 into a Replicant..... but it backfires and goes wrong. But then that never tied into the clues, as that or the other theory would make this movie a direct prequel. I thus thought the Xeno must not be created as a event that occurs in this movie via the Crew of Prometheus and anything they find or that happens on LV 223. Then after seeing the Hologram Jockeys and more Dead Jockeys it began to add up.... and after Ridleys other comments about the Derelict and the Cast List for Engineers. It all made sence.... the Xeno was created a long time before Prometheus and the Derelict on LV 426 had been there a long time before Prometheus lands on LV 223. The running Ghost Jockeys, the Dead Jockeys and reason the Derelict on LV 426 left to land there are all connected and i feel would be explained in 2 scenes in this movie. The Hologram/Ghost Engineer scene, and a scene late on the last 8 mins of the movie...

That's what is driving me crazy, how do we get from these much simpler elements: urns, black slime and cobras to the eggs and xeno we are familiar with? It's quite a jump. And if it's the xeno taking on a SJ as a host, that won't work because we know the SJ's body was actually just a suit. I guess it can only work if the SJ actually merges with the suit on a cellular level, becoming one entity.

BigDave, I kind of get the same feeling. And maybe because of everything that transpired on LV-223, The Company could not get access to the alien tech and biological samples. So the discovery of another Juggernaut on LV-426 was another opportunity to make up for that lost effort.

the idea of david being an alien is very different and promising, but i can't help the feeling of holloway turning into "something", well because of the scene in the trailer where he looks into his eye and see's that little creature on his eye. So the Xenomorph must form by one of the new creatures, just to recap 1. Milburns snake attacker 2. Holloways eye bug thing 3. Shaws "baby" We know a SJ gets impregnated by the facehugger, may' be it acted in a sense of martyrdom to stop an Xenomorph from escaping, by crashing into LV-426, from LV-223?

I believe that the pre-Alien original Xenomorph birthed from the jockey in the chair in the Alien film. Any Xenomorph appears to take some of the host's features (e.g. canine form in Alien 3). The "bio-former" liquid (if it indeed exists in this movie) seems to be a substance that can create life from whatever environment it is deposited, taking whatever "raw" materials are there and creating living a sort of DNA to eventually evolve into living organisms. Or it mutates already present lifeforms it comes into contact with into something else. What is key is that the Alien seems to have similar tube-like protusions on its back similar to the ones on the Space Jockey chair, also taking the features of the chair and jockey suit's already bio-mechanical construction. If a Space Jockey is infected, then it would seem that any emerging lifeform (chest-burster or otherwise) would take on the traits of the host ,the Space Jockey, who also seems to be bio-mechanically bonded to the pilot chair with his suit. The bio-former liquid simply utilises the raw materials at hand (Space Jockey, Suit and Pilot Chair) to create life, in this case a bio-mechanical type being: the Xenomorph. The hole in the original Space Jockey's chest could indicate this happened. The physical appearance of the Xeno would seem to go along with this. From then on, in "reproduction", any further Xeno's would resemble the host lifeforms but still retain the original bio-mechanical features. Obviously, this liquid could be the ultimate weapon in the wrong hands (Prometheus!), possibly being used to destroy entire civilisations. Maybe the original Space Jockey was the "sacrifice engineer" (who was running away from the other two evil jockeys in the holo-images when he realised what was going on) who was unwillingly impregnated and used to create this lifeform for reasons unknown. He then escaped his captors and ended up on LV426. I could easily be wrong, but it's Just my take on things!

if this is going to indeed tie in to alien with the whole xenomorph lifecycle thing then i would suggest maybe we get from parasitic oil to womb invading squid thing to alien eggs via the ampules/Bio Replicator Pod? [see weyland industries website>terraforming for details] apparently these pods have a bank of 40 million seeds and plant DNA sequences. and the rather uncanny ability to utilize them and create a desired species... in the confines of the world ridley has created is it hard to believe that an engineer species. no matter how isolated and blue would be able to reverse engineer or use our tech in ways we could only imagine. This Paragraph reeks of alien nostalgia... "At 1 cubic foot in size,/ an array of thousands of bio-replicator pods can be outfitted to any seeder for industrial use. For household use, it is recommended to store bio-replicator pods outside the home..." then again they are enginners. they might have a decent 3d printer...