About enginneer's size

I guess the height of space jockey in chair should not be compared with the standing guy. The blue guy who is standing or running here and there must be 6 feet for humans to look normal. As for the alien in chair, that is clearly a suit from the start and that is why that rubber like alien is inside the suit in chair.

Its not the same one that we see when she's in the ground. As I stated on another Thread, the one I'm mentioning has gloves of sorts and the suit is different [more tight]

I dont know anymore to be fair... I did compare the Jockey in the Chair from both movies and some of the details in the Chair are the same size in relation to head as a proportion. I estimated the Jockey in Alien to be about 12ft based on Chair being 16ft Which gave me a estimate on the new Jockey as being 9ft based on if Chair is the same size. The Suits hanging up before the Orrey Room look about 10ft, the body of the Jockey them examine and take the helmet from looks again over 9ft. The Head they examine looks large and does fit in with the size of the Dead Jockeys and the Suits/Statues hanging up in the corridoor just before the Orrey Room. The Hologram Jockeys in relation to David and the Shot of the guy walking to the chair and the scene that has the decapitated body all again fit with about 9ft. I am sure some of the production staff said the Jockey was 9ft in this movie. Its just that one shot of the one near Shaw looked more human height, and now we got the new images... well its about the same height that Ian Whyte who plays the Jockey would be in 3-4" Booster Boots. And thus smaller than the Suits the crew find the head from and are hanging from the walls etc etc. I think that CGI and Special effects could have made him look bigger, but Ridley gone for Actor on Actor scene with no added effects and the scale looks off due to that. I dont know what explanation they have for that.... Right now i guess maybe those who say the Jockey and Engineer guy are not the same may have a point after all.

Even taking into account that Scott used children to enhance the size of the original SJ, clearly, there's a difference between the SJ size of Prometheus and the deserted SJ of Alien. And guess what? It's very likely [i]never[/i] to be explained or referenced to by Scott. I know some folks are annoyed by the term but, "artistic license" may simply be the only legit reasoning we will be forced to accept when it's all done and said with.

Long time lurker, first-time poster here. ^_^ It's too inconsistent and I believe that Ridley is way smarter than this. The "blue guy" is not what we know as a "Space Jockey". The creature sitting in the chair in Alien is not the same as the one we see sitting in it in Prometheus. It's not even the same race. We're deceived by the suit it wears. What we're seeing is a mutant, it's the only logical answer. Either that or they're being harassed by a tween Jockey who hasn't had his giant growth spurt yet and is pissed off that he was woken up.

Well Ridley said this movie is about the race of the guy in the Chair. My problem is not with the guy in the chair from each movie, i have already covered the differences in the Spot the Difference thread... My problem is the Engineer in the scenes where he attacks Shaw seems to be smaller than the bodies they find, and the Suits hanging up and indeed the Holograme scene dudes and the guy who walks and gets into the chair. [img][IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/2vwg3ef.jpg[/IMG][/img] I have noted two points of reference as far as closest reference point in both images..... And from this the Engineer in this scene looks a fair share smaller than these Suits. [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheusmovie_11512_5.jpg[/img]

I have just done a estimate so could be a few inches out.... Uses reference point and also the Vickers Photo from her furthest back foot to head and referenced that for her height of 177cm and then looking where the Engineers head comes to the door on the other image i marked that point on the Vickers image and worked the difference to give me a estimated height of the Engineer to be...... 210 cm (now could be a little off but only as much as 10cm tops) Now Ian Whyte is 216 cm.... So we can see for this shot they just gone with him in a suit, and thus no special effects such as how they made the Hobbits look small in Lords of the Rings. So does this mean Ridley was cool with the idea that the Jockey was 7ft odd? As the scenes when he is near David he is about 50% larger and not upto 20% Larger....

[quote]My problem is the Engineer in the scenes where he attacks Shaw seems to be smaller than the bodies they find, and the Suits hanging up and indeed the Holograme scene dudes and the guy who walks and gets into the chair.[/quote] I agree. That's what leads me to believe that's not an engineer attacking Shaw. I think we're seeing a further mutated Fifield or something else. It just can't be a jockey, imo.

Yeah i know we have seen and read a lot about the Jockey... In Alien the production crew etc talked about it being a 15ft being in the Chair. (i estimated it to be about 12ft) So to go from a 12-15ft Space Suit with someone in it, and that someone is a Humaniod that apears to be 9-10ft is not so bad. But for it to go from 12-15ft Being, down to a 7ft odd Humaniod is a disapointment..... Mind you look how punny Bane is in the new Batman compared to how he apeared in other Movie Batman & Robin let alone the Comics...

Indeed. I'd be disappointed and feel like they were lazy. BTW: I'm a big fan of your posts, BigDave. They're always very well thought out and I love when you dissect imagery. Sorry for the topic derail but I just had to put that out there. ...Ok, back on topic! XD

I think its maybe best we totally forget that Alien and the Franchise even existed really. And take this movie on its own merrits.... And just hope that the two people on line who had seen a Advanced Screeing was making it all up....... The story on its own is not bad... but when trying to tie it into Alien.... well it sucks really lol

They definitely don't seem to be too worried about continuity as far as the original designs from Alien, they've moved from the bone-like organic look to a more mechanical design for no apparent reason. I like the original Giger stuff from Alien way better - it's just creepier and more unsettling.

The original Space Jockey in Alien is not the same being that we see in Prometheus. Apparently they used to be super-sized in olden times and now they come in fun-size. Maybe they are completely different species or maybe they have used their magical technology to make themselves smaller. Could also be that they have castes that have been engineered for different jobs.

you also need to remember the guy in the chair in alien is covered in layers of calcium and decay, that could add another 5 inches all over. in alien the engineer is covered in a calcium like gunge and hes fused to the chair. i personaly think thats the clue the word fused. i thin when he lands he overheats in the suit and fuses through his suit with the chair making him look about 15 ft when realy hes probably 11 ft.

ian whyte is 7'1 not sure about perspective and whether they wanted him to look taller maybe some engineers are different sizes and heights. the pilot room only had 3 or 4 chryo chambers. maybe they were just the pilots. other engineers were perhaps taller, like those suits, and hung around somewhere else in the ship. also, the sacrifice engineer from the beginning of the movie was only about 5'9 or 6'0 because there was a photo of him standing next to ridley and ridley is about 5'9. at the end of the day - the engineer in prometheus was as big as he could be without being "monstrous", and ian whyte is a logical and loyal choice. here are some examples, i'm sure you've seen them: ian as the predator [img]http://www.coolwatersprods.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/iancostum.jpg.w300h396.jpg[/img] ian killing weyland. [img]http://coolwatersprods.com/images/IANATTACKS.jpg[/img] ian next to ridley, who is about 5 foot 9 [img]http://cdn.wegotthiscovered.com/wp-content/uploads/prometheus_11.jpg[/img] daniel twiss, sacrifice engineer, next to ridley with no shoes on. ridley is about 5 foot 9 [img]http://i.imgur.com/5aonD.jpg[/img] and finally a behind the scenes shot from the Alien movie. [img]http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kt09gyXHvv1qzexpio1_500.jpg[/img]

Nice shot of Giger up close and personal with his creation.

[quote][i]Hello , some of you are disappointed by the size of the enginneer in the new tv spot. I want to clear that for all of you : Ridley said that the Alien Jockey was just a BASE to create the one in Prometheus.[/i] [/quote] Have you noticed that the pilot chair looks to be the same size in Prometheus as it is in ALIEN? The Engineer looks like a child in a big chair. The Space Jockey in ALIEN looks like a giant in a too small chair. I think we'll be seeing something larger in the next movies. Something that actually fits in the chair. And I'll bet we'll see something even larger than that.

I think it's just a continuity issue. I've read that the engineers are anywhere between 10 ft and 15 ft tall. Maybe height varies from person to person for them the same way it does for us. I don't think they are a different species in Prometheus since RS specifically stated he wanted to make a movie about the Space Jockeys. So more than likely it is just another case of Hollywood being lazy and not paying attention to continuity issues. Like how Padme goes from dying in childbirth to being around when Leigha was a small girl in Star Wars.