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Stefano

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Greetings, my fellow Prometheus fans (can you be a fan of a film that you haven't seen yet?) you get the idea. I've just come across this site and have to say there are some great discussions here, I was reading the forums at imdb for a bit and pretty much every post was filled with everyone calling everyone else a troll and asking when in the film do you think we'll see the predator or xeno. Anyway, my thoughts on Prometheus: first, I've been a fan of sci-fi and the Alien films since I was a kid, so this is quite an exciting time. I think Prometheus will live up to if not surpass our expectations, and I tell myself not to speculate too much, but there are a few things that I can't quite make sense of based on what we've seen so far in the trailers and what we've heard in interviews, etc. 1. What does Ridely mean by 'it answers the questions of where do we come from and where do we go when we die?' The where we come from part makes sense because we sort of know by now that the premise is that life on earth was created by this race of aliens (Engineers). But what about 'where do we go when we die?' that part was a bit unexpected. 2. I'm struggling with the whole concept of 'we go and find this planet that the Engineers left clues about on earth, and when we get there, we do something to make them angry, so then they want to destroy us.' Not only does it not add up to me, but it also sounds a bit amateur in terms of a story. I really think we're going to see something deeper than that. For example, what if the thing that could lead to our end is not because of something the Engineers deliberately want to do to destroy us, but rather just a series of events that are set in motion through the ignorance of the crew. Maybe David messing with the canister or the control room/chair?
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1. Perhaps the issue of where we go when we die is cleared up by understanding that we weren't created by God but rather by alien intervention, or alien interbreeding? Such an event, were it true, would go a long way toward invalidating everything we've been taught about an afterlife. 2. Furthermore, having our DNA tampered with by alien forces to a degree that quickly results in an entirely new creature would be painful by definition. People almost always flee from pain. It's just natural to do so. Perhaps the aliens dealt with in Prometheus aren't an enemy race, per se...they just need to transform for their survival and human beings will be hosts for that transformation. It would be sort of like having a disease. From the perspective of the human who has the illness, it's an enemy to be eradicated (especially if it's causing pain or obvious mutation). From the perspective of the disease, the human being is a perfectly good house to live in for the duration of its life and...if it's a "smart" disease, it will keep the human alive for as long as possible so it can carry on with its own mission, whatever that may be.
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I concur.
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@Hepheasta Check [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/4065]this[/url] out. Great minds...etc

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There are great ideas here to be sure. There are also some incredibly boneheaded ones. Look around, you'll recognize them when you see them.
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At first I thought my brother, Stefano, saw all my FaceBook likes of the Gallery and decided to join and create a thread......but then I read it and realized....this IS NOT my brother.....I spoke to him last week about the movie and he barely even knew what Alien was about....LOL. Anyway, Stefano (not my brother)...Welcome to the forum and a great first post!!!
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@Myrddin As a special branch of general philosophy, pathogenesis had never been explored. In my opinion it had never been approached in a strictly scientific fashion--that is to say, objectively, amorally, intellectually. All those who have written on the subject are filled with prejudice. Before searching out and examining the mechanism of causes of disease, they treat of 'disease as such', condemn it as an exceptional and harmful condition, and start out by detailing the thousand and one ways of combating it, disturbing it, destroying it; they define health, for this purpose, as a 'normal' condition that is absolute and immutable. Diseases ARE. We do not make or unmake them at will. We are not their masters. They make us, they form us. They may even have created us. They belong to this state of activity which we call life. They may be its main activity. They are one of the many manifestations of universal matter. They may be the principal manifestation of that matter which we will never be able to study except through the phenomena of relationships and analogies. Diseases are a transitory, intermediary, future state of health. It may be that they are health itself. Coming to a diagnosis is, in a way, casting a physiological horoscope. What convention calls health is, after all, no more than this or that passing aspect of a morbid condition, frozen into an abstraction, a special case already experienced, recognized, defined, finite, extracted and generalized for everybody's use. Just as a word only finds its way into the Dictionary Of The French Academy when it is well worn stripped of the freshness of its popular origin or of the elegance of its poetic value, often more than fifty years after its creation (the last edition of the learned Dictionary is dated 1878), just as the definition given preserves a word, embalms it in its decrepitude, but in a pose which is noble, hypocritical and arbitrary--a pose it never assumed in the days of its vogue, while it was still topical, living and meaningful--so it is that health, recognized as a public Good, is only  the sad mimic of some illness which has grown unfashionable, ridiculous and static, a solemnly doddering phenomenon which manages somehow to stand on its feet between the helping hands of its admirers, smiling at them with its false teeth. A commonplace, a physiological cliche, it is a dead thing. And it may be that health is death itself. --From Moravagine by Blaise Cendrars...1st copyright: 1926.
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I had another thought today after seeing the Lindelof interview on the Verge (which had some funny bits, by the way, and I completely agree with him on his reasons for why he does not want to call it a sequel). I really do believe that the events set in motion in Prometheus are accidental and not the result of the Engineer(s?) wanting to destroy us. In fact, the recent images of the Engineer (maybe) running through the halls of Prometheus, what if he's trying to stop whatever it is that has been done, maybe the crew don't even know what they've done at this point?

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