Pessimistic Preparations

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Rosesrubella

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Let me put in a little backstory to my fears. I'm 20, I saw Alien for the first time when I was 11 and fell in love. Since then I've been unable to convince people that one film has remained as my absolute favorite for so long and from such a young age. I try to describe it by saying everyone has a movie that just 'clicks' with them, and for me it was Alien. I'm obvsiouly a huge film-buff as well and usually have no qualms about spoilers, early-reviews, over-exposing trailers until this movie came along. Prometheus is giving me anxiety. All I can think about is "oh god, what if it's awful". This started when I was with some friends who were talking about Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. The trailer looked awesome, same director, everyone was hyped and convinced it wouldn't suck, those poor people. I hold Ridley in a higher regard above Mr. Lucas to start, but the parallel is still there. So i'm trying to prepare myself for the absolute worst case scenario. The American release is on my birthday (some cosmic hilarity I think) which isn't helping the scenario. Does anyone else share my fears? Because i'm horrifically afraid of a Phantom Menace scenario. Plus the push for a Blade Runner sequel is setting off an alarm in my brain. What if this is a cash in instead of Ridley trying to redeem a once great franchise? This is seriously making me paranoid to the extent that i'm going to have to laser off my Alien tattoo in shame and depression. Any opinions on the matter? (well, at least it can't be as awful as the AVP's. Right?)

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MaxwellMay 20, 2012

Perhaps you can transform your alien tatoo into something to do with Harley davidson

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Hi big pig May 20, 2012

You're being paranoid. Have a beer or somethin and relax. It will rock

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ambrosiahMay 20, 2012

I, as you, have been a fan of Alien since the age of 11. I'm 21 now, and through-out my years of middle and high school and now in college, Alien still remains my all time favorite film. My mom made me watch some crazy stuff when I was younger... and I'm glad she did! There was something about Alien that made it "click" with me, as you said. Maybe it's the originality of the Alien design or the mysteriousness of the whole thing? And with Alien also being my favorite film, I am too getting anxiety from Prometheus :s Every single day I'm on this website looking up news, and coming up with weird theories for everything. I JUST WANT THE FILM TO BE RELEASED ALREADY!!! But what is really irking me is the point that you made right there. Another Star Wars: The Phantom Menace? At first, I kind of enjoyed Episode One...when I was younger! Now I watch it and understand the flaccidity of it -.- First of all, if it was a cash grab, Fox would of[i] definitely[/i] forced this to be a PG-13 film. And even if then, I highly doubt Ridley would of even been up to making the film. I really do believe that Ridley and even Fox want to make this something really really special. I'm sure it will be! So do not fret my friend, for you will have the greatest birthday any man can ask for.

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CryoMay 20, 2012

Rosesrubella......I totally share your feelings........ although I didn't hate EPISODE I as much as other star wars fans do, actually for me episode 2 is the weakest of the prequel trilogy......... but anyway I think what happens is that we all want to see this movie NOW.........I'm telling myself no to come back to these forums and lurk in you tube but it is impossible......... I think I passed the point of no return; we can't go back and pretend I haven't seen anything besides the teaser trailer....... But like Hi Big Pig says.........just relax and enjoy.........I mean I still watch SPECIES and AVP if they pop out on TV as other guilty pleasures........... my personal tip would be listen to the soundtrack..........It'll get you all hyped in a good way.

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jockeyspaceMay 20, 2012

I think you are asking the wrong question. Remember, Prometheus IS JUST A FILM, and good or bad, life will go on as usual after you watch it. You will still have breakfast the next day, you will kiss your wife/kids goodbye in the morning and head off to some mind numbing work, where you will trade your time for money, only to repeat the cycle again the next day. ThIs is a Ridley piece of work - it will have great visuals, good acting, a solid storyline and you will talk about the film with your colleagues around the water cooler the next day. Expect that and nothing else, and you might be pleasantly surprised. What we should all be asking is why is it that we allow Fox marketing, or any company for that matter, to condition us to be consumer robots, monetizing our time and inclining us to spend hours on trivial activities like decoding trailer screenshots. Should we not better spend that time doing other meaningful & impactful things like taking the dog for an extra walk to the park, playing ball with your son, or learning a new hobby ? The question you really should be asking is - why am i letting a mere film impact my life so much ?

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SpartacusMay 20, 2012

[quote]So i'm trying to prepare myself for the absolute worst case scenario.[/quote] I am taking the opposite approach and having complete faith in Ridley Scott because I do not see even one good reason not to! besides we already now what this film is all about Ridley Told us in NO Uncertain terms what he intends to do with it...and I for one am really looking forward to discussing EXACTLY what it's message was to all of us the very day after we see it !!!

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shardyMay 20, 2012

@Rosesrubella: ALIEN is one of the few films that really clicked with me as well. it's on my personal "best films" list i do feel a pang of fear that the end result, (not the journey getting there) will be somewhat not what i was hoping for. i have seen far too many things i wish i had not seen in the trailers Fox has released in the past few months at the same time, i have put my true cinematic faith in Scott, and his great sense of storytelling and fantastical directing style fingers croxxed, PROMETHEUS will far exceed what i thought i was going to see and experience time will tell....

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shambsMay 21, 2012

THE DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE IS STRONG HERE!!! [img]http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p566/alberto861/imagesCAQYMVQF.jpg[/img] [img]http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p566/alberto861/tumblr_lkxlcoO2Ew1qiivomo1_500.jpg[/img] [img]http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p566/alberto861/lucas-1.jpg[/img]

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KingMeMay 21, 2012

Change the tatoo into the Xeno mural. that would be sweet.

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SpartacusMay 21, 2012

The "Binks" fiasco IMO is way worse than the Lukas and Spielberg Raped Ford/Jones fiasco making it for me, twice the concern !!!!! & I still want every trace of that character erased completely. After the fact. Now.

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CryoMay 21, 2012

Shambhala........... you just took a smile from me...........I think is what we all need nowadays.............make somebody laugh

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KingMeMay 21, 2012

@ Spartacus idk, on south park Indiana got raped hard and frequent.

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SpartacusMay 21, 2012

@KingMe, He sure did man...lmfao i like watching it again and again too I am sorry to say lmao !!! I Love it !!! Hahahahahaha !!! Nice Pickup Bro !!! you could be the team "shortstop" {sounds like the kid from part 2}~~~ lmfao.

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KingMeMay 21, 2012

hahaha lucas havin Indy squeal like a pig was the best

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SpartacusMay 21, 2012

[url=http://youtu.be/mSBQJaI1Rfs]KingMe[/url] [b]NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL "DELIVERANCE" !!! LMFAO !!![/b]

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KingMeMay 21, 2012

@Spartacus That was great. I cant believe some of the stuff those guys get on tv. Wonder what George and Steven thought when they saw that? hahahaha

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SpartacusMay 21, 2012

Me too, and at the time I thought they might get in trouble for going too far but I think they asked Spielberg for permission to do it and told them both before hand!!!

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garvMay 21, 2012

I have definitely been a bit worried that "Prometheus" could be the "Phantom Menace" all over again....But I take some comfort in that Ridley has been directing great movies since he did "Alien"....he's been honing his directorial skills for years and has a proven track record: Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Black Hawk Down... all great movies. His last few I haven't cared for too much.... but they weren't terrible. Lucas hadn't Directed since Star Wars when he did Phantom Menace, and it showed. I'm sure RS knows he needs to knock this one out of the park... He needs a big hit.

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KingMeMay 21, 2012

Hahaha. They must be good sports to allow that. Would have liked to heard that conversation tho. I unfortunately got wallet raped by those two for Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls.

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SpartacusMay 21, 2012

IMO he is close, very close now, 17 1/2 days in fact, from being the total [b]MAN OF THE HOUR in "P H O N Y W O O D" !!![/b]

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SvanyaMay 21, 2012

Binks wasn't that bad, however the "NOOOOOOOOOO" added at the end of "Return of The Jedi" was a disgrace... Funny--->[url=http://youtu.be/NBPXdhd5B8Y]Robot Chicken : Jar-Jar for Gecko Insurance [/url]

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Mekja-TekMay 21, 2012

Why are we wasting our lives on a movie you, because Ridley Scott is not just your average director and the ALIEN/PROMETHEUS concept is not your run of the mill story and films. I have a family, job, hobby, and pet. But the positive energy generated by the knowledge of this project being green lit added that extra pep in my life. It pretty felt like someone reuniting me with a good old friend. We're just hoping our friend doesn't turn out to be a crazed, incoherent crackhead, out to rob us and leave us for dead. ijs lol =))

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SpartacusMay 21, 2012

LMFAO Svanya no luck he was OK, I was hoping he cracked his own skull with that chair flip LMFAO !!! Robot Chicken man, what a run Seth had with that ting...awesome, thanks Svanya you must have known we'd all LOVE that!

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XenotronMay 21, 2012

Go in and forget everything that you've seen to the best of your ability. Don't go with any expectations other than to have a good time. Don't go in with a checklist of things you're expecting to see. If you're not having fun, being scared, or engaging your mind, then the movie has failed to some degree.

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abiogenesisMay 21, 2012

I echo what others have been saying here: Let go of your expectations, let Prometheus be a blank slate, enjoy the ride, and don't overthink it. BTW, you guys are a bunch of young'uns! I'm 34, married, with one child and another on the way. That makes it, let's see now, 23 years since I first saw Alien! (Holy cow.) While I can't say that it's my favorite movie of all time, it IS my favorite movie in the horror/sci-fi genre, which is one of my favorite genres, so there you go. I could never get very excited about Cameron's Aliens or the other sequels, so I'm thrilled that Ridley Scott has come back to offer us something new from the Alien universe. Now would be a good time to watch the original Alien again, not just for old time's sake, but also to remind yourself that it's not perfect.

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LateMay 21, 2012

@Rosesrubella - Poison Idea had a great tune called "Getting The Fear", which tied into the Charles Manson cult mentality - but questions the same things: am I going to be let down or be a part of this? Horrible analogy at this point, but enjoy the flick ("Prometheus") for what it is. You can't recapture the moment of impact when something like "Alien" hits you broadside, makes an impression, and you hold everything else short of what you first experienced. My favorite film of all time is "Throne Of Blood" by Akira Kurosawa - but I came across that long after seeing "The Lower Depths". Nothing until that point compared to "Lower". I skipped on "Phantom" because the trailer looked amazing, but was certain the movie would fall short. I regret this, because watching it years later, I wish I would have had the experience in a theatre on it's release date the way I do now at home. In retrospect, I actually like the movie - but I sincerely think, in this case, we have nothing to be afraid of. There's something Ridley did with this to not only make it worth his while to revisit, but worth ours to do so too.

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LateMay 21, 2012

@abiogenesis - got you beat, Chief - I am 42! Have the same take, man - just enjoy the damn ride. We're too old for this sort of debate! I have two sons, one daughter. She's five. She's going to the flick. So much for parenting skills - learned it from the 'rents who rented "Alien" on VHS when I was 11. Gotta pass the legacy of it, right?

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LateMay 21, 2012

Oh, and the title post of this thread reads like a Century Media recording artist record release: [b]PESSIMISTIC PREPERATIONS are proud to announce their enigmatic, energetic, and true Black Metal aspiring recording:[/b][/b] [size=200][i]"The Utter Failings Of Prometheus".[/i][/size] Limited to LV-426 pressings on egg colored vinyl.

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colonial soldierMay 21, 2012

To be honest, I was not happy with Ridley's Hannibal movie and loved Silence of the Lambs. He had upset me with not using Jerry Goldsmith's score in Blade Runner and Legend. BTW, I love Jerry Goldsmith scores and was saddened by his passing. He would have scored this movie lovely. I saw Alien when I was 13 in the movies and that movie has scared me the most to this day. I remember seeing it in the movie theater at the Loew's on 86th street in New York City. I missed the Omen, Exorcist (seeing it in the movie theater) during those years and Scanners somewhat came close afterwards. Aliens was good (funny I served in the Marines from 87 to 91 and now have been in the Army since. I am in Afghanistan currently and pissed that I will miss it seeing it in the movie theater/IMAX/3D) but not the same level as Alien. The movie needed to remain on that horror level. The other films weakened the series so I am hoping for a reprieve with this and wishing that RS brings the standards back to this film. He should.

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abiogenesisMay 21, 2012

@Late, Okay, you win! But my husband is your age and we're taking our 20 week old fetus to Prometheus, does that count for anything? (Our 4 year old's way too sensitive for anything scarier than Thomas the Tank Engine, for now.) @colonial soldier, Keep safe, and thank you for your service!

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colonial soldierMay 21, 2012

Thank you for the kind words abiogenesis.

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TokyokidMay 21, 2012

RS has yet to make a movie I didn't like (or even love) in some fashion. I saw The Grey recently (RS and his brother produced) and thought that was great. There appeared to be recycled music from Sunshine/28-Days Later and some of the Gladiator themes. Still, it was a great movie. Granted, he is playing in an established area and an Alien prequel with RS at the helm does raise the bar. I have faith in RS to deliver the goods and have no worries about the movie, other than an Alien growing to maturity in a day or less, which was hard to swallow in the first Alien movie.

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probe_ationMay 21, 2012

I also feel your anxiety; but @ the same time I don't feel like the trailers & articles have given away a great deal of important plot detail. There could even be alot of disinformation out there... To my knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong) RS has never been involved with a sequel / prequel / related film to any of his existing work; I can't see him shite-ing in the nest now so to speak... ;) Happy to sit on the fence until I've seen it.

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KronikMay 21, 2012

The only thing that concerns me is that we, and by that I mean all of us on the forums, have such high expectations, that the movie we would LIKE to see cannot be delivered. I fear that we fans may be responsible for over hyping Prometheus, and therefore we can only blame ourselves if it does, but hopefully not, bomb. Some want Xenos, some dislike the squid thing, some want Holloway to get flamed, some believe Vickers to be the second droid etc. etc. We can't all have our cake and eat it, but maybe we can all have a nibble and be left wanting more by way of a sequel. I have to put my faith in Mr Scott that he WILL deliver a great film, with great themes and completely new ideas. Now, let's all have a big hug, and put our differences aside for a while. XXX

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BigDaveMay 21, 2012

Well i agree Phantom Mennace was a bit disapointing in some aspects.. Prometheus is a more serious movie, but with Lindelof on board we do not know what to expect, some of his work is pure fantastic great imagination... But everyone has some bizare Dreams that are truely out of the box and weird and not really something you could use for inspiration in a serious movie. I wonder if all along the Space Jockeys are just empty Andriod Suits and what is it that makes them tick........ THE SMOKE MONSTER lol... I dont really know what to expect in this movie, but i do expect it to leave just as many unanswered questions and no explanation to certain events just as lost did. Oh with the Star Wars EP1-3 i do wonder if we would see more simular thing going on in this movie.... imagine if Star Wars 4-6 was not made at that time.... you would be trying to piece together where the Story is going, but we knew about the story plot as we had Star Wars 4-6. This movie is every open ended..... but we just dont know if as Star Wars EP 1-3 was a Prequel to Star Wars EP4, that indeed a Prometheus 1-3 would do the same for Alien.... from EP1 we would not know much or get answers depends how the movie ends.... but a Prometheus 2 could still answer a lot. I think we will not see the Engineer die, maybe we see Shaws Cuddles die, maybe not. I think the biggest question mark of the movie is what is going on and happens with Shaw in the clip she is assending from the Derelict..... planting the seed maybe?

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Forever WarMay 21, 2012

You're going to look back on these thoughts in your post after you see the film and say to yourself how or why did I think I could outthink Ridley Scott? You won't be alone by far....all the material is being thrown in the public's face with a challenge...'Here, figure it out if you can, if you're so smart you won't have any problem..oh and by the way, I'm Ridley Scott, I've been doing this a long time. The last 2 times I did sci fi films people thought the same way you do before the film opened. They thought that way because that's what I wanted them to think, they had no choice' Relax....Ridley won't let you ruin the film for yourself.

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RSANDMay 21, 2012

jockeyspace you got it! It IS just a film. There are far worse things in life than bad films unfortunately. However, I'm still betting this will blow us away. I cannot imagine this director releasing anything less.

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LateMay 21, 2012

@abiogenesis - No, you win! The fetus card trumps my daughter's intense design on all things scary! At least you're getting a head start, and not finding your pet "thing" lurking around the corner while watching "Ringu" - to which I was informed that she wanted to be Sadako for Halloween. I am a terrible parent, but a wonderful father :)

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OttoMay 21, 2012

NO Jar JAR= NO WAY this movie could EVER be as bad as tPM (which, without Jar Jar, and without that whiney little Anakin punk, wouldn't have been all that bad)...

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takka_takka_takkaMay 21, 2012

Oh, another one of "those" threads.

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