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Warning Beacon

donholbrookjr

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I'm just going to throw a few thoughts out there. This is all conjecture and speculation as I have not seen the movie and will not know the answers till June 8th like the rest of you. So here goes... There seems to be a big argument as to what planet this all takes place on. LV223 or LV426? If it's LV223 then where is the connection to ALIEN given that Nostromo set down on LV426. You can clearly see imagery on the bridge of Prometheus that says LV223. But does that actually mean they landed there? Or was that simply a scan of the system they were entering? And how about those Engineers? I'm thinking we are seeing the last of them! How long ago did they seed Earth? And they never came back to see what came of it? They don't strike me as being very stealthy. Is it possible that they created something that got the best of them? A distant cousin of the Xeno? We know Prometheus sets a collision course with the Juggernaut to keep it from taking off. The remaining crew are left stranded. Now think about this, the tagline says THE SEARCH FOR OUR BEGINNING MAY LEAD TO OUR END. That implies that the juggernaut was most likely leaving for Earth and the Prometheus crew considered it a big enough threat to destroy their own ship and strand themselves on an alien world. How many years pass between Prometheus and Alien? The engineers are obviously far more advanced then humans so I'm sure they have cellphones. How come another juggernaut was not dispatched to Earth to finish the job. Why? Because with the crashing of the juggernaut they became extinct! And the icing on the cake... the signal that Nostromo intercepted was a WARNING not a distress beacon. Let's just say for arguments sake that the derelict in Alien is NOT the same ship from Prometheus. Why would it be sending a warning in a language that Humans could understand? It would either be sending a distress to it's own people that we surely would never be able to decipher (this ain't Star Trek and we don't possess universal translators!) or it would be sending an invitation to us so that we would stumble upon it's cargo. So this leads me to believe that the Juggernaut in Prometheus is indeed crashing on LV426, it IS the derelict we see in Alien and the surviving crew members of Prometheus are responsible for the warning beacon in Alien. Surely the company would have a contingency plan if the Prometheus did not report back. Seems to me the crew would do everything possible to warn others, including the company, away. They would likely choose to sacrifice themselves instead of risking a rescue mission and possibly taking any infections back to Earth. Thoughts? These are just some ideas,theories,etc. There's no need to get hateful if you disagree. It's just for discussion.
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Here is one more theory, all people dying and then last one keeping warning beacon active just to keep the others away.
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either way the company picks it first up and re-routes the Nostromo to the area leading to us all being here right now !
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In the scene that shows the Prometheus heading towards the Juggernaut and Vickers escape pod launching you can see other survivors standing below. So we know at least a few survive. But of course being stranded the whole crew is LIA. So anxious to see the outcome and the connection to Alien. Of course Ridley is a clever man so I have no doubt he's been feeding some misinformation.
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I've heard the warning in alien and its not in english
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Warning beacon can be in morse code or similar other binary signal. But there was signal which looks like screaming waves, so it must be generated via some means. Who knows let's wait for the movie to see how it was covered in it.
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@Hi big pig , that's the whole point, they hear it first, realize it's not of human origin, and re-route the Nostromo to investigate, knowing she was their closest asset to that system. Got it first hand ! Not permitted to reveal the source.
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At first glance of this thread's title....I READ IT AS [b]WARNING BACON[/b]....
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I'm beginning to wonder if, upon arriving at the Zeta II Reticuli system, they do pick up the single of the derelict in [i]Alien[/i], but, rather than directly investigate it, put it off to the side and continue with the mission to LV-223, which has atmosphere and is the original destination of the mission for that reasom, as stated by Holloway in one of the recent commercials.......
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I hope you're wrong craigamore - ignoring / disregarding the signal from lv426, just to land on lv223 would disappoint. Imo
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[url=http://time.absoluteavp.com/pics/aliendat.jpg][img]http://time.absoluteavp.com/pics/aliendat.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://time.absoluteavp.com/aliendate.html]SOURCE[/url] The above image should clear up what happened..... Follow the solid/bold black line from Sol to Thedus and then the Nostromo's mysterious flight-path back to Sol. Why would the Nostromo be sent [b][u]8 additional months out of its way[/u][/b] with a swapped out science-office had not the "signal beacon" not been picked up by "The Company" with its own sensor relays? Almost a whole year in cryosleep (which is why the crew awoke and felt they were close to home) and they were just where "The Company" wanted them with Ash ready to protect the prize. Why wasn't this exhibit pulled up by Ripley's advocate at the beginning of Aliens during that meeting where they blamed it all on her? Hmmmmm........
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I think you may have something there. Just to add up, think about this: the company knows really well where they sent the Prometheus, right? Still, they take a very long time just to go to a completely different planet? The way I see it, they either had already gone to LV223 and were searching for more of what they found when Alien took place, or they never went in the first place, possibly because they had the location wrong! What if they think they are landing in LV223 and they are actually landing in LV426?!? I don't see either Weyland/Yutani just sitting on their buts waiting for things to happen... On the other hand, I still don't think Prometheus will take place in LV426, but hey, speculation is always nice :)
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Abordoli - please explain your graph as if you were talking to a child. Make every effort to include every caveat & nuance of your graphic. Thanks
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@Sparty: Who said that the company picked up the signal first and then rerouted the Nostromo? As far as I know MUTHUR picked up the signal, interpretated it as a distress signal and following standard procedures then rerouted the Nostromo. We only find out later that MUTHUR has instructions such as special order 937. Even the fact that Ash has been assigned to the ship's crew on Thedus just before Nostromo's departure isn't made clear in the film, no? That is only mentioned in Ridley's crew character sheets. I'm not saying that there's no conspiracy or foul play been done by the company in ALIEN... I have also posted the 'Narcissus situation' a few times on this forum. Why was there only one operational? And even if both would have been available, it wouldn't take the entire crew to be rescued. We've discussed this around here so many times already but damn, do I have to watch ALIEN once more?? LOL @Craigga: You need to get OFF the bacon man!
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@craigamore - Genuinely spat some tea out laughing at the very idea of 'WARNING BACON'. That typo has made my day. Kudos dude.
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If David could learn/translate any language... how come Ash couldn't work it out as he was surely an advancement of David?
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@Sundar - I was only posting that bit of dialogue because Hal9000 had asked about it. It doesn't really come right out and say that the company definitely knew about the transmission before the Nostromo left Thedus... but the whole "switching out" of science officers at the last minute seems[b] VERY[/b] incriminating, especially given what Ash does later on, and the fact that he keeps Special Order 937 a secret. As a matter of fact, I think Ripley probably deleted that line for the "Director's Cut" because he thought it was too much of a giveaway... just like he cut the second "Dallas?" that Ash originally said - with that bemused, almost casually detached sort of look on his face - as Dallas, Kane & Lambert entered the derelict and the communications between them and Ash were lost.
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@HAL9000: With regards to the question about Ash's being placed on the Nostromo... In the original theatrical release of [i]Alien,[/i] during the brief exchange between Ripley and Dallas which occurs just after Dallas gives Ash the OK to keep the dead facehugger and bring it back to earth, Dallas explains that the ship's original science officer was replaced at the last minute... with Ash. The dialogue goes: RIPLEY: Just tell me how you can leave a decision like that to him. DALLAS: Look I just run the ship! Anything has to do with the science division, Ash has the final word. RIPLEY: How does that happen? DALLAS: It happens, my dear, because that's what the company wants to happen. RIPLEY: Since when is that standard procedure? DALLAS: Standard procedure is to [b]do[/b] what the hell they tell you to do. RIPLEY: You ever ship out with Ash before? DALLAS:I went out five times with another Science Officer; they replaced him two days before we left Thedus, with Ash. RIPLEY: I dont trust him DALLAS: I don't trust [i]anybody.[/i] [b]NOTE: The line referencing Thedus and Ash was deleted for the Director's Cut, but it IS there in the original theatrical release version.[/b] Given the fact that Ash was a last minute "plant" on the ship, it seems pretty obvious that the Company knew about the transmission before the crew of the Nostromo did (with the exception of Ash).
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@John D: Thanks for clarifying/referencing this. It really slipped my mind that it was actually in the dialogue. Oh well, my bad. [LOADING DVD FOR THE 20TH OR SO TIME]
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Amazing insight, but does not add discountenance to what Hal 9000 stated @John D.
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It probably will not be the same planet for 2 reasons, A...they said it is not the same planet and I guess people just dont't want to beleive anything, and B, it would be a far better and interesting story if it was not the same planet so we will still be like...Well how did that other ship get there then ?

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