Warning Beacon

Here is one more theory, all people dying and then last one keeping warning beacon active just to keep the others away.

either way the company picks it first up and re-routes the Nostromo to the area leading to us all being here right now !

In the scene that shows the Prometheus heading towards the Juggernaut and Vickers escape pod launching you can see other survivors standing below. So we know at least a few survive. But of course being stranded the whole crew is LIA. So anxious to see the outcome and the connection to Alien. Of course Ridley is a clever man so I have no doubt he's been feeding some misinformation.

I've heard the warning in alien and its not in english

Warning beacon can be in morse code or similar other binary signal. But there was signal which looks like screaming waves, so it must be generated via some means. Who knows let's wait for the movie to see how it was covered in it.

@Hi big pig , that's the whole point, they hear it first, realize it's not of human origin, and re-route the Nostromo to investigate, knowing she was their closest asset to that system. Got it first hand ! Not permitted to reveal the source.

At first glance of this thread's title....I READ IT AS [b]WARNING BACON[/b]....

I'm beginning to wonder if, upon arriving at the Zeta II Reticuli system, they do pick up the single of the derelict in [i]Alien[/i], but, rather than directly investigate it, put it off to the side and continue with the mission to LV-223, which has atmosphere and is the original destination of the mission for that reasom, as stated by Holloway in one of the recent commercials.......

I hope you're wrong craigamore - ignoring / disregarding the signal from lv426, just to land on lv223 would disappoint. Imo

[url=http://time.absoluteavp.com/pics/aliendat.jpg][img]http://time.absoluteavp.com/pics/aliendat.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://time.absoluteavp.com/aliendate.html]SOURCE[/url] The above image should clear up what happened..... Follow the solid/bold black line from Sol to Thedus and then the Nostromo's mysterious flight-path back to Sol. Why would the Nostromo be sent [b][u]8 additional months out of its way[/u][/b] with a swapped out science-office had not the "signal beacon" not been picked up by "The Company" with its own sensor relays? Almost a whole year in cryosleep (which is why the crew awoke and felt they were close to home) and they were just where "The Company" wanted them with Ash ready to protect the prize. Why wasn't this exhibit pulled up by Ripley's advocate at the beginning of Aliens during that meeting where they blamed it all on her? Hmmmmm........

I think you may have something there. Just to add up, think about this: the company knows really well where they sent the Prometheus, right? Still, they take a very long time just to go to a completely different planet? The way I see it, they either had already gone to LV223 and were searching for more of what they found when Alien took place, or they never went in the first place, possibly because they had the location wrong! What if they think they are landing in LV223 and they are actually landing in LV426?!? I don't see either Weyland/Yutani just sitting on their buts waiting for things to happen... On the other hand, I still don't think Prometheus will take place in LV426, but hey, speculation is always nice :)

Abordoli - please explain your graph as if you were talking to a child. Make every effort to include every caveat & nuance of your graphic. Thanks

@Sparty: Who said that the company picked up the signal first and then rerouted the Nostromo? As far as I know MUTHUR picked up the signal, interpretated it as a distress signal and following standard procedures then rerouted the Nostromo. We only find out later that MUTHUR has instructions such as special order 937. Even the fact that Ash has been assigned to the ship's crew on Thedus just before Nostromo's departure isn't made clear in the film, no? That is only mentioned in Ridley's crew character sheets. I'm not saying that there's no conspiracy or foul play been done by the company in ALIEN... I have also posted the 'Narcissus situation' a few times on this forum. Why was there only one operational? And even if both would have been available, it wouldn't take the entire crew to be rescued. We've discussed this around here so many times already but damn, do I have to watch ALIEN once more?? LOL @Craigga: You need to get OFF the bacon man!

@craigamore - Genuinely spat some tea out laughing at the very idea of 'WARNING BACON'. That typo has made my day. Kudos dude.

If David could learn/translate any language... how come Ash couldn't work it out as he was surely an advancement of David?

@Sundar - I was only posting that bit of dialogue because Hal9000 had asked about it. It doesn't really come right out and say that the company definitely knew about the transmission before the Nostromo left Thedus... but the whole "switching out" of science officers at the last minute seems[b] VERY[/b] incriminating, especially given what Ash does later on, and the fact that he keeps Special Order 937 a secret. As a matter of fact, I think Ripley probably deleted that line for the "Director's Cut" because he thought it was too much of a giveaway... just like he cut the second "Dallas?" that Ash originally said - with that bemused, almost casually detached sort of look on his face - as Dallas, Kane & Lambert entered the derelict and the communications between them and Ash were lost.

@HAL9000: With regards to the question about Ash's being placed on the Nostromo... In the original theatrical release of [i]Alien,[/i] during the brief exchange between Ripley and Dallas which occurs just after Dallas gives Ash the OK to keep the dead facehugger and bring it back to earth, Dallas explains that the ship's original science officer was replaced at the last minute... with Ash. The dialogue goes: RIPLEY: Just tell me how you can leave a decision like that to him. DALLAS: Look I just run the ship! Anything has to do with the science division, Ash has the final word. RIPLEY: How does that happen? DALLAS: It happens, my dear, because that's what the company wants to happen. RIPLEY: Since when is that standard procedure? DALLAS: Standard procedure is to [b]do[/b] what the hell they tell you to do. RIPLEY: You ever ship out with Ash before? DALLAS:I went out five times with another Science Officer; they replaced him two days before we left Thedus, with Ash. RIPLEY: I dont trust him DALLAS: I don't trust [i]anybody.[/i] [b]NOTE: The line referencing Thedus and Ash was deleted for the Director's Cut, but it IS there in the original theatrical release version.[/b] Given the fact that Ash was a last minute "plant" on the ship, it seems pretty obvious that the Company knew about the transmission before the crew of the Nostromo did (with the exception of Ash).

@John D: Thanks for clarifying/referencing this. It really slipped my mind that it was actually in the dialogue. Oh well, my bad. [LOADING DVD FOR THE 20TH OR SO TIME]

Amazing insight, but does not add discountenance to what Hal 9000 stated @John D.

It probably will not be the same planet for 2 reasons, A...they said it is not the same planet and I guess people just dont't want to beleive anything, and B, it would be a far better and interesting story if it was not the same planet so we will still be like...Well how did that other ship get there then ?

Hi, Just some toughts here... Been reading alot of interviews over the last few months. I've had the impression that,although the "alien prequel" idea was abandoned long ago,RS still wanted to explain the ALIEN SJ/Derelict on lv-426,but Lindelof talked him out of it. In fact a week or two ago,Lindelof had an interview in wich he stated that "there will be no derelict full of eggs". I wonder daily just what the connection to Alien will be (the mysterious final 8 minute segment).Well,two more weeks we'll know anyway. Just sharing my thoughts,wich means I think the WARNING BEACON will not be explained.

@donholbrookjr Umm, i think Grindolf made the point that they have stated its not the derelicts planet in Alien. They've made this point repeatedly. And it has already been discussed here several times, over and over. As has the distress beacon. i even started a thread about it myself so i know it exists, i was wondering if it was actually fabricated by the company to give a reason to send the Nostromo off course to deliberatey encounter the eggs etc. There are life pods and a lifeboat, apparently that can keep peole surviving for 50 years. And there is something similar to a universal translator, its on the weyland industries page. You think the Engineers are extinct after the juggernaught crash? why? you don't have a single thing to support this do you? Am not being hateful, i'm just surprised anyone who has found this forum and read a few threads would think some of these things.

. i know while this one has been discussed, it keeps coming up because there is something that does not add up. regardless of planet, there are two signals that go out from either one or two planets next door, one being a warning and the other being something else...... I really do still believe that they are the same somehow. too much going on there with a lot of Space around for it to be just a coincidence. last time i will say this on one of these threads but it goes back to David again for me, we do not know what condition he will be in by the end of this movie, it might even be picking his human creators or the engineers, (but if they rip off his head, he might think about rejoining the human cause!) and i am not sure yet about the life pods and lifeboats as to know operates them where they go and such, but there have been a couple of pictures of David in an engineer’s seat, when i think of a movie, or even on LOST, you knew that if there was not someone in your party that could fly a plane, ship, etc.. you were S&*)ed/ so why couldn't David program a warning, from the SJ ship that came out sounding Alien or digital, with screaming in the background? it is obviously Shaw speaking the warning, but it might get muddled up for other travelers when they hear it. this of course all depends on who the final survivors on the "island are and who get's voted off" - - i am guessing that Shaw, Vicker's, and David will be around for another go if we see green lights flashing a sequel sign. I am super excited about opening night, and even if there is just a second of connection in this movie or not it will be awesome, but i still think that somehow that message is one of the connecting points and donholbrookjr, i think you are right about survivors not wanting anyone company or not coming near this place, because of the threat of infection and these creatures spreading to earth. i don't even think with Vickers’s ethics that she herself would want to go back to earth after being next to and interacting with infected travelers, i don't know if she would want to risk anyone without intense scanning to return from the survivor’s crew. And for good reason! **final thought on this one also, is that if one of the Weyland family went missing, whether Vickers’ is weyland's daughter or granddaughter (?) or if he himself is one of the survivors, the minute the company heard any sort of beacon, or warning signal come from that area, they would want to retrieve it to find out what happened to them? this could be why the redirected the Nostromo. only hole is that you would think the company would have had the location all that time, unless Weyland and Vickers’ kept it secret even from the company because it was too big to put out into the public or overall company and that point

It's fair to assume, based on the trailers, that Shaw gets rescued from some cataclysm, maybe it's after the storm that she wakes up violently and surrounded by dudes in hazmat suits, but I doubt it. She either lets herself die in the temple, where there appears to be a field or special environment that stops all decay (mentioned in interviews) and they recover her body and reactivate her with the synapse re-establisher. She could also put herself into a shuttle like ripley did and they are examining her before she fully wakes but, then she does, in fact, wake up. Let's go with the shuttle theory. On the way to get her they are doing a very broad very thorough sensor sweep and they pick up the signal from LV-426 which has become faint over the last thousand years or so. It follows that the environment inside the structures on LV-426 is also inside the juggernaut which explains the lack of decay of the Jockey and the eggs.

@Windood I DID say in my post that these were just thoughts, speculation and conjecture. I think it's plausible that the Engineers are almost extinct/extinct by the end of the film for a couple of reasons. For whatever reason the Engineer was trying to take off in the Juggernaut presumably towards Earth. We have to assume to do some damage since the Prometheus crew sacrifice their ship to stop it. Why did the Engineer not call for help? No other Engineers anywhere on the planet? No other Juggernauts? Ok, maybe they're on another planet. He wouldn't have alerted them to the situation? What about the timeframe between Prometheus and Alien. Would the engineers not have simply dispatched another juggernaut to Earth? All races eventually become extinct. Given the Engineers dabbling in genetics is it not possible that they created something that got the best of them. Dare I say a distant cousin to our beloved xenomorph? [b]Disclaimer[/b] (I feel like I need to include this with every post): I have not seen this film, neither have you. I do not have all the answers, neither have you. Everything I say is just an [b]opinion[/b], [b]theory[/b], [b]conjecture[/b] and/or [b]speculation[/b], the same as you. It's ok to disagree with my opinions, theories, conjectures and/or speculations as I often disagree with yours. [b]I am not here to have a fanatical debate[/b]. This is a discussion board, I am discussing. [b]This is just for fun[/b]. Just sayin'. [b]Disclaimer to the disclaimer[/b]: This disclaimer is not targeted at any one individual. Thank you for your time.

Hi there.. Considering that the Nostromo possibly passed LV426 before returning home makes me wonder.. If Mother picked up the strange transmission why not re-route to Zeta2 reticuli on it's way out? Knowing now that Weyland Corp now about a possible lifeform out there and (who knows) a crew back in the past went to the Zeta2 reticuli with perhaps a lot of information generated by.. say... Vickers?? -- Well, then I'm certain the company allready knows something beforehand. A possible reason for why it happens so many years later.. Could!! Could!! This be based on a Weyland/Yutani conflict.. Where an ancestor to Weyland wants to return to it's initial strategy - being the gods.. This is speculation - but, looking at the Dallas/Ripley conversation in the original release.. Well, then the "goddamn" company is to blame :)

Here's a thought for you chaps. We know David watches a hologram. It shows a clip of an engineer running closely followed by a gang of engineers. Why is he running away? Does he get away? Does he fly away in a ship with a deadly cargo and crash land on LV 426? Why would he do that? Is he trying to stop something or is trying to steal something but it backfires on him. I'm just trying to say that maybe the ship in alien could have ended up there 1000's of years before this film is set. The conection with Alien may not be how that ship gets there but more of how the xeno's are made. They maybe a defense mechanism that is triggered when the engineers or their technology is in jeopardy.

If there is confusion about which planet this takes place on, there shouldn't be. It is made very clear that it is lv-223 by the guy(s) that made the movie. It is also made clear this is not the prequel to alien. I believe the sequel(s) to prometheus will be the prequel to alien. All the efforts to twist RS words around and come up with your own plots is nice for a creative writing class but hold no weight in reality. I think a lot of people will be saddened when they see how much they over thought this film. There will be a connection to alien as there already is with the engineers. It will be more subtle then people think, but there will be something nice at the end!

Becuase maybe the Alien movie really takes place before the Prometheus movie.