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Do you think Prometheus dialogue will have any added camp value?

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Arkadine

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The latest clip from Prometheus has the following line of dialogue" Vickers asks repeatedly "What did he said" to an overwhelmed David (background of ominous music), who says "It's Confidential", but after shes grabs him from the throat he replies "He said Try Harder", as she releases him he asks ironically "Cup of tea, Ma'am?", and she pushes him away from the face threateningly . I know Ridley Scott asked David to see Joseph Losey's "The Servant" in preparation for his role of his android "butler". But the dialogue sounded pretty overblown and campy to me. More like a dramatic confrontation right out of a Dynasty or a Dallas episode. I know the clip is out of context and I know I am risking excommunication from the Overlords of this board, but I would like to know what the rest of you think about this snippet of dialogue and clip.

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craigamore
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I loved [i]Signs[/i]....it still holds my record for most theater viewings....9......[i]Prometheus[/i] may give it a run for its money, I'm sure....
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Never saw [i]Airbender[/i]...didn't feel like my kind of movie from the start....
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I felt a bit cheated by the village....could not wait to go see it.....i was so disappointed when it turned out to be a guy in a suit (oh fuck why does that sound familiar?)....well at least in Prometheus their is plenty of creatures..;) I did find the ending of the Village rather intriguing and the movie had some amazing cinematography.....but not much else....
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The scene was intense with no camp in sight. Well acted with subtle emotions. I think some folks are too close to the lens. Take a step back or two, and try not to over analyze and dissect every snippet of dialogue.
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I have heard that same argument over and over, I guessed it was a suit...and Loved it !!! Thought it was Superbly acted and compelling and raised a most interesting thought about religion in general. In short, I thought it got a total bum rap.
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juxtapose: well, if you figure they are all pretending the outside civilised world doesn't exist and the children were born in that secluded place... it works fine to have guy inside a suit to scare them away from the outer rim border. I also thought the suit was... mheeee... but the effect on the children worked great
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SIGNS to me was Pure and utter Genius and just a Brilliant picture. I escaped the every day thought patterns and worries of every day life and just fell mad hard deep into that film with total Glee and Joy...To me that film is what Sci-FI Horror films should use as a freaking BIBLE !!! Why more films like that one and one's about Crop Circles aren't made I will never understand!
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@ david 1.....i know the idea worked well....but I just kinda wanted it to be a real monster....it's the child in me and that thing frightened me and then it turned out to be the village idiot inside a suit.....noooooooo!
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[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OlrDdbwFtNc/TX0EU5kdVGI/AAAAAAAAAwE/LDui--zskDY/s400/Signs_6.jpg[/img] 99% of Crop Cirlces are man made. the 1% left is the Interesting stuff [img]http://astrojourneys.com/images/et_cropcircle_450_opt.jpg[/img]
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Juxtaposed: lol. I hear you. I was somewhat dismaid by it, but then that ending made me almost have an orgasm
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yeah i liked the ending as well....but I was still a bit disappointed....i wanted werewolvien creatures snacking on half the village...dammit!
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Wow I have completely different taste in movies then most people here it seems. I walked out of the theatre during signs. It was to me dreadful. I couldn't be bothered to finish watching it. I had a free pass when i was working at a comic store. it wasn't even worth free. I guess they picked the wrong store for promotion as I was pretty much slammed it to anyone who asked me about it. If anything, the character of David will ruin aspects of prometheus for me. The movie does not need comic relief. It just needs good characters and a good storytelling. And more then anything fucking TIGHT scriptwriting. Scriptwriting and plotting in Hollywood are at an all time low. Like people needs 4-5 more stages of editing. Every film i have seen lately has huge continuity errors plaguing it. One or two more re-writes, or a tighter editing crew at the scripting stage might do it a world of good. Then again, this could also be cases of directors seeing a different "vision" of the movie and ruining a good tight script with their own ideas. I am sure that happens quite a bit. Maybe it is the fault of the general movie going population demanding more visually and less and less plot and characterization. Whatever it is, it makes, for me, going to movies a very unenjoyable experience. It's sad when the average Roger Corman movie makes more sense then some of the highest grossing movies of all time (I am looking at you Transformers Trilogy). Rant ends. Again, just my opinions I expect no one to share them and always love reading why people enjoy different aspects of filmmaking. The only thing it does is increases my knowledge base and what to do when i am working on things.
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love the Pics, loved that film ! Highly Original, Brilliantly acted !!!
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I Love movies in general and think of them more in positive terms than negative ones.
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"Signs" was terrible... So was "The Happening" What is with the deadpan/blank acting in those movies?? They were as bad as Twilight for dialogue and blank stares from the actors. I just saw the extended David/Vickers scene, (ty Arkadine). David seems VERY passive aggressive and awkward, no wonder people have trouble relating to him.. As for child actors, Dakota Fanning and Kirsten Dunst were amazing.

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SHOW ME THE FILM YOU BOTH MADE THAT'S BETTER LMFAO !!! I AM IN FACT LAUGHING HERE NO ILL INTENT !!!
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Spartacus, they were horrible movies... The storyline for "Signs" was stupid too, WHY would an advanced alien race try and take over a planet that is made of 75% acid??? Water was like acid to them, it's even in the air we breathe.. How could they not know?? OMG that bugged me worse than the cold acting.

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Arkadine
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@Shane I'd love to know the movies that you like :-)
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Overlords, eh? :-D You may continue your ruminations, peasant, however you must make a tithe of roast pig to your Overlords first before doing so :-P we shall be more inclined to listen to your rambling drivel with bellies full of pork..... :-D Just kidding, not about the pork though ;-)
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@Cypher haha that was funny.. I hope you don't mind my pork has been treated with Xenomorph hormones...
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yea yea Svanya, like I said....and in any case... to each their own...I call him "Sham alam a Ding Dong" anyways what more do ya want? I did not say it was some Great film but it certainly isn't as bad as all that I have seen way way worse. & believe me I have seen a lot of films !
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If you pointed a camera at wall and record it for 107 minutes it to me would still be more enjoyable then "Signs". Many would have a different opinion on that but if I gave a shit what other people thought then I wouldn't do anything in life and I would be working for the Canadian Government and living in the burbs [and I'd probably be happy and more well adjusted but that is beside the point]. I'm as far from a passive viewer as you can get. If it isn't doing it for me it is wasting my time. Time that can be spent working on my own projects [mostly musical stuff], or reading or watching film that might be better. There is nothing I hate more then feeling like I am wasting my time. I have too much to do, and too little time to get it done [work 3 jobs, endlessly going sort of person].
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lol shane brutal hahahaha good one
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Arkadine
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@Spartacus Who is the chick with the laser eyes... she looks like Karen Black :-)
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@Svanya Lol, you and your logic... :D
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@Wesen, It's a curse, trust me.. :P Ok, Spartacus, I will agree it's not the worst film ever made... And let me reiterate, David is very passive aggressive...XD

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[b]Beyond Evil[/b] 1980 Linda Day George I believe ! Directed by herb Freed. Starred John Saxon, Lynda Day George, Michael Dante
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Hi Shane, but WHY don't you like it and what are some of the other movies with bad plots (apart from Transformers) and what are some good movies in your opinion? Just asking because you seem like someone who thinks about these things a lot and your opinion would be interesting. I only saw a few minutes of signs on TV and they never made me wanna watch the whole movie.
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lol...hehehehe...yea come on Shane name some good ones and some bad ones for us...beer run !!!
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Shane
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What do I like? Lately all I have been watching is horrible Italian ripoffs of Star Wars and Mad Max. Um....I watch "Pandorum" last night. It was a functional film. Not great, but good enough for me to keep one while I worked on other things. Plot hole galore but meh. I'm trying to think of the last "good" movie i watched and enjoyed and I am drawing a blank. "Moon" was moderately well reviewed and I loved it, mostly because it filled me with '70's scifi nostalgia. Um....Seriously, I haven't watched and enjoyed something new and critically acclaimed in years. If I have I can't think of it right now. I like crap. I am the first to admit it. I know what I like is completely trash cinema.
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Arkadine
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@Spartacus I think its time for some B movie fun, I'm going to check it out to see if I haven't watched it yet :-)
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[quote]I like crap. I am the first to admit it. I know what I like is completely trash cinema.[/quote] dude...I Iike you already, that was some funny shiznit !!! Hahahahahaha !!!
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Pandorum? Yeah, you obviously like crap ;P
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Arkadine
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Well there is art in certain so called trash cinema.. like the italian "giallos" "which I love
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Shyamalan is very hit or miss. I liked "The Sixth Sense" and "Signs" and [i]loved[/i] "Unbreakable." None of the rest of his movies have really worked for me.
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Ok I will start Rate each out of 10 #1-How I learned to stop worrying and Love the Bomb, Stanley Kubrick. #2-Once Upon A Time In America, Sergio Leone #3-Cinema Paradiso, Giuseppe Tonatore #4-Rango, Gore Vabinski #5-The Ninth Configuration, William Petter Blatty
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The concept of Pandorum was an interesting one but the execution of the movie was flawed.. I almost fall asleep in the movie theater.. the ending was kind of cool though... there should be a lot more movies about interstellar travel.. and to think Jon Spatihs said human kind will never reach another star... shame on him lol
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stumped all of you didn't I ? You all MAY have seen RANGO... MAYBE !!! LMFAO ! & each one of those films is a 9 or 10/10 IMO !!!
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Yeah, I don't remember why I hated Pandorum. I think it was partly because I expected something entirely different. But also because it mixed and mashed up so many different ideas and it didn't know what it wanted to be. but I agree, the ending was good.
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I love "Gaillo" film. I love Lucio Fulci Flicks. Honestly, I just had to go ask my roommates to help me with this. And it boiled down to these key phrases "abstract" "visually striking" and "weird". I love "The Beyond", I love "Tetsuo the Iron Man". "Electric Dragon 80000 volts". I love Jodorowsky's films and his comics with moebius [which read like what I like in movies]. I like really bad 70's sci-fi like "Logan's Run", "Futureworld" and "west world". I like "THX1138". I LOVE the original "Solaris" and I adore "Stalker". My favourite Planet of the Apes film is "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" because it gets so random and insane near the end. I like really nihilistic scifi like "The Quiet Earth". I love shit like "A Boy and his Dog". I still love the first "Terminator". "Robocop" is a hilarious black comedy. I like a lot of stuff for pure nostalgia value. I like "Krull" and shit like "Battle Beyond the Stars" more then I like Star Wars. I love pre-1997 Hong Kong action flicks. Seriously, i don't know. I like mostly crap. Cheap garbage. I do like some classics...."Deer Hunter", "Raging Bull", "2001", and that sort of thing. I love Ozu and Kurosawa. But I also love shit. If anyone can put a finger on it hey, I would like to know. And I said Pandorum was function, not good. I have seen way worse then it. I have seen Infinitely better. Again, I watched it because it was on netflix and I was practicing scales. It passed the time [netflix canada is barely worth the 7.99 and I am kinda at the ends of what I havent seen on it that i have interest in when I am unwinding and practicing on the couch].

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