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Worried about prometheus....DONT BE!!!! READ!!!!

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Xeno-Jockey

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 10:38 AM
Worried about prometheus...DONT BE!!!! 1) People have been saying how its alot like aliens vs predator, but, Sir Ridley himself said how he does not count them as part of the alien franchise, nor does he like them, so why would he let this happen? 2) Its RIDLEY SCOTT! He on of, if not the, worlds greatest directors! 3) His two other Sci-Fi movies were amazing! A L I E N and Blade Runner are two of the greatest sci fi movies ever made, and a lot has been based on them! If you are worried about the critics then: A) Critics always slate movies (Only films that are like the hobbit or avengers are loved by them, because of the hollywood-ness about them etc.) B) Alien and Blade runner were both highly slated/criticized, so this is obviously not a problem. 4) People are worried about the fact Damon Lindelof wrote it, along with John Spaits, but Sir Ridley Scott oversaw the script and told Damon what HE HIMSELF wanted it to contain and consist of! 5) With all the character Viral Videos, why on earth would he delve into depth about them if the film isnt very clever and complex. 6) Many people may not appreciate it as we do. People may say its just another science fiction movie, set in space, has aliens and CGI (etc.) but we all have questions, because of our shared love of the FIRST Alien Movie! There will be links that only the sharp eyes for the franchise (us!!!!) will see, and many others may not understand the film having not seen alien! 7) LOOK AT THE CAST!! Its bloody marvelous! Michael fassbender is a revelation, noomi repace is a brilliant actress, Charlize theron....thats all i need to say..., idris elba is world class and everybody else are great!! I say f**k the haters of this movie, they know nothing, but WE do! Sorry about the rant just had to prove a point, so nobody worry, these points will reassure you!
Its a robot...ash is a goddamn robot!
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dopelganger

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 10:48 AM
No matter what the critics say when this movie comes out, I am willing to bet Prometheus will be talked about for many years to come. And 20 years from now we will all be looking back asking the same question people are asking here - Did you see when it came out? I was there for Alien - 21 years old. Look where its at after 33 years - considered a classic Sci-Fi horror movie. It spawned so many pvies and it Alien changed SciFi as we know it. Prometheus may not be popular this summer like the others, but I bet it will be remebered a lot longer. The bar will be set for years to come.
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Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 12:39 PM
@ Spartacus Whether you know it or not, what you said is a BIG DEAL. Saying the French are hateful and racist shows great prejudice and ignorance on your part. We have many french members on this board and such statements are extremely disrespectful towards them and also towards the other members in general. I repeat, I will not engage in conversations about the movie with you nor with anyone else who throws out hate speech directed at an entire group of people. Prejudice is more important of an issue to me than whether or not Prometheus may or may not be good. For many members of a group prejudice is a lived experience and it affects them deeply.

Juxtapose

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 2:42 PM
Maybe .....just maybe....this french screening was not the full movie...maybe it was a cut version?....perhaps they cut scenes intentionally to see a reaction....seeing as this was not such an official screening....what do you guys think?

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 10:46 AM
I know the entire plot of the film, that is how I know it is similar to AVP. It is no longer an issue of why would he do this and more an issue why he did this. It has already been done, we know the plot, we know the twists and the ending, the time for speculation and hoping is over. Evidence trumps hopeful speculation every time my friend. Now, as David would say, how about a cup of tea to calm your nerves?

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 10:54 AM
I think this film will be talked about in respect to the cognitive bias of the backfire effect. All the information about the film was released and in response to the negative reviews (from fellow Alien and Ridley fans in France) the people who had not yet seen the film assumed that the people who had seen it did not know what they were talking about and this only meant the movie was going to be greater than ever.

SaintsSinphony

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 10:54 AM
Xeno-Jockey AMEN this movie is going to be a good one and the majority will see this. No one needs to be worried, they will be entertained and hopefully we will see more of this universe. Sure people are going to be disappointed but it is their fault. It's their fault for not accepting the movie for what it is. It's easy to trash it and say it takes this idea and blah blah blah but really, how about accepting the movie for what it is and just enjoying it. I'm not going to ever let some dumb review deter me from seeing something and appreciating it. We all in this community have waited a long time to see this so let's enjoy it while it's here. I for one am going to ignore the haters because they just can't seem to wrap their heads around this movie. They apparently wanted a comic book style story so oh well, there's is AVP. If AVP had all these ideas first then go watch that movie if it's so much better. I'm going to enjoy Prometheus and I"m sure many many many people will enjoy it just as much as I do.

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 10:57 AM
Take not that SaintsSinphony says all this having never seen the film and calls those people in France who did see it haters because, clearly, they don't know what they are talking about.

SaintsSinphony

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:01 AM
Dude, I've tried to be nice to you I'm gonna just tell you once If you think you are going to make a negative thing out of this then go ahead and try. I'll laugh as you fail. I didn't say anything about "people in France" did I? Or can you even read? I don't let anyone's ideas about anything change my mind. I make the decision myself. So for every negative you try and make, I'll make a positive because, yes, I like this movie. Why don't you wait till you have seen the film before you run your trap then? Take your own advice why don't you? I don't have the time to argue with a person like you so I'll leave it at this. How about you do the same? Now, back on topic.

John D.

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:03 AM
Being able to tell a great movie from a good one (or a bad one) does not make someone a "hater," and the notion itself is silly. That said, keep in mind that everything is subjective. People who love a particular movie that you (or I) don't love are no more "wrong" for loving the movie than we are "right" for not loving it. And so on.

SaintsSinphony

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:06 AM
exactly JOHN D. , but I don't like when people seem to dislike things and try to convince others to not like it also just for the sake of not liking it. give it a chance to blossom before you cut it down

Juxtapose

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:08 AM
....but it's not that everyone who saw it thought it was bad....it got more positive than negative reviews is a matter of fact....so stop worrying....it's clearly not gonna be everybody's favorite....but no movie will ever do that....i read the plot as well and it sounds very good...not perfect...but way better than some of the fake one's.

SaintsSinphony

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:11 AM
yes, i'm glad it wasn't like some of those fake ones

Xeno-Jockey

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:25 AM
THANKYOU @SaintsSinphony thats exactly my point! :) and thankyou very much @Juxtapose for clearing up that there are more posotive ones than negative! FOR EVERY FILM THERE IS MIXED REVIEWS!
Its a robot...ash is a goddamn robot!

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:28 AM
Hey I never said I wasn't going to form my own opinion, my Imax tickets are already bought and paid for. Still, the users who took the time to write up summaries of the film for us and that actually SAW the movie have more evidence to back up their claims.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:35 AM
[quote]I think this film will be talked about in respect to the cognitive bias of the backfire effect. All the information about the film was released and in response to the negative reviews (from fellow Alien and Ridley fans in France) the people who had not yet seen the film assumed that the people who had seen it did not know what they were talking about and this only meant the movie was going to be greater than ever.[/quote] i say YOU have an AGENDA of Hate ! i say I will judge this thing by my own standards thank you very much! I say anyone who has NOT seen this film does not come from the right place to say whether it is any good or not beforehand. I say every trailers for this thing I have seen BLOW every other trailer for EVERY other film I have EVER seen away! I say More than Half the people who saw it already said the same thing... ..."How Amazingly stunningly Beautiful this film was"...and EVEN the BAD reviews said this !!! and this one I have to be very very clear about... Jerry Lewis was at one time a real funny guy, along the way he got Jaded and became a man who no one really knew behind the scenes...a bitter angry revengeful human being...The French however couldn't have cared less and adored him knowing ALL THIS ANYWAYS...They also called Sergio Leone's film, Once Upon A Time In The West "The Greatest Western Ever made"...my point is sometimes they are very very wrong, and sometimes they are very very right, like the rest of us!!! You can't just say it's A French thing you are RIGHT...but it IS a People thing...and I think HALF OF FRANCE IS filled up wit people whom, when it comes to recognizing a good film...have no clue what they're talking about to begin with and right now it is perhaps one of the single most racist places on earth to even visit let alone live! In Fact they will SPEW they're hatred all over this film just to cause problems for Ridley Scott based on severe Jealousy alone and his money !!! This is how it is, This is how the world works. Mostly it is just flat out plain as the nose on my face that you have an AGENDA yourself...and want ONLY for this film to fail and to cause as many other people to think that way and to want it as much as you can convince them to believe it..meantime..I ain't biting! The ONLY thing that will really tell us whether this film is special or not...is HISTORY !!! And the ONLY thing that gives orders is you know what! To each their own, if you don't like it tell me why you don't like it, if you do, why?...But judging it when you haven;t seen it yet and are basing everything you say on the opinions of others...IMO is Gutless!!! Be Your Own Man !!! After You SEE it !!!

Juxtapose

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:36 AM
.....a lot of the things that were posted on spoiler threads and reviews...things people pointed out that they did not like....sounded like things that i might not even mind or notice....like i said not a perfect plot...it could perhaps be better.....even the haters had some positive things to say....everybody seemed to be in agreement that it was at the very least visually spectacular...with decent performances....the thing that seemed to upset some is that the story left to many questions and the plot was not more elaborate....

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:37 AM
@ Spartacus, oh so it's not that Promotheus failed to live up to the standards of movie fans in France, it is that it is an amazing movie and France is just filled with hateful, racist people. Good to see how tolerant and rational fans of this franchise are...:FACEPALM:

Forever War

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:38 AM
Not worried at all...critics are paid to evaluate..haters are boring people and they deserve themselves.

SaintsSinphony

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:40 AM
Spartacus we are in 100% agreement (for once) : )

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:42 AM
lmao you just proved everything i said... I said...FORM YOUR OWN OPINION AFTER YOU HAVE SEEN IT YOURSELF AND UNTIL YOU HAVE YOU ARE JUST PLAIN BIG FAT HUMONGOUS AMOUNTS OF WRONG !!! & France is IMO... RIGHT NOW, THE SINGLE MOST RACIST PLACE ON THIS EARTH!!! It is my humble opinion based on FACTS and Nothing else!!! & I have as much right to it as you do to comment on the merits of a film you have NOT seen!!!

Forever War

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:48 AM
Is humongous the same as ginormous?...silly me...

Grindolf

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:49 AM
Who gives a fuck ? even if there were not french you only go with the Reviewers you trust, being a movie critic is pretty bullshit because they always give their own personal opinion on a movie, and everyone has different opinions. To critic a movie would require some one to not be biased but how many times do you see shit like "I usually hate sci-fi movies" in some ones review, expressing personal feelings. I love Rotten Tomatoes because it is a consensus of reviews which can be far more trusted that 4 reviews from random people. Find a critic that seems to have a similar taste in movies than you and stick with that then you will have an idea if you will like a movie or not. Trusting random people's reviews that will not jive with yours once you have seen it is retarded. Please stop fucking crying like bitches and wait till youve seen the movie

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:50 AM
@ Spartacus How can it be your opinion and based on facts? If you have sufficient evidence it is no longer a subjective opinion. The fact that you would slander an entire country of people because they gave Prometheus negative review shows how childish you really are. This really goes beyond something as trivial as a movie and really tells me a lot about you as a person. That type of simplified grouping of individuals as unworthy and hateful is what gave us the holocaust.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:51 AM
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Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:53 AM
and this... [quote]@ Spartacus How can it be your opinion and based on facts? If you have sufficient evidence it is no longer a subjective opinion. The fact that you would slander an entire country of people because they gave Prometheus negative review shows how childish you really are. This really goes beyond something as trivial as a movie and really tells me a lot about you as a person. That type of simplified grouping of individuals as unworthy and hateful is what gave us the holocaust. that shows me you don't know how to read nor do you understand the English Language properly !!![/quote] Slander can be defined as speaking words about someone in order to damage his or her reputation. If I called you a cheat who steals bones from puppies and candy from babies, then I would be slandering you.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:56 AM
Here is ONE fact to get you stared on your quest for the truth, it has become such a major problem in PARIS alone that wikkipedia has made an Online entry as a work in progress for all of it !!! [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_France]RacismInFrance[/url]

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:56 AM
@ Spartacus you are talking about the LEGAL definition of slander not its usage in everyday language. In a court of law, slander is about spoken defamation and libel is written defamation. In every day usage, slander refers to false malicious statements about a person or group of people. Maybe you're the one in need of an English lesson.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 11:57 AM
Have You Seen This Film?

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 12:01 PM
i am still waiting for your answer...[b]Have You Seen This Film...?...[/b]

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 12:01 PM
I am not talking about the film anymore, I am talking about your malicious attacks on the people of France. I am not going to debate the film with someone who resorts to prejudiced statements about an entire country of people just because they hurt his fanboy pride and gave Prometheus a negative review. And before you say I don't know what prejudice means, it can also refer to people grouped by nation and not just race.
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