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MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 8:10 AM.. when they team arrive at the temple with the Big Head ... there are worm like creatures under the foot of one of the people walking .. this happens before the black ooze tricles out , so there is clearly life here already ...
what are these ?
and where did they come from ?
are they dangerous ?
do they become the cobra-hugger ?
answers on a postcard to ...
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iapetus
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 8:31 AMWhen they change the atmosphere by opening the airlock and the mural is changing, the urns start to drip and ooze the black goo.
Then when they get out to reach the ship in time before the storm, the camera pans down to a pool of black goo down some urn and you can see the worms bathed and squirming in it...
No doubt as to where the cobraliens come from IMO. This and the 'under the shoe life' prior to this together make for a clear enough intentional serie of shots...

Ripley McPreviouscharacter
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 8:33 AMHey, have we settled on any one name for that creature yet? I've seen hammerpede, cobralien, xenocobra, cobrahugger, protohugger (even thought it isn't), and some others. Cobralien sounds too much like a facehugger + actual cobra. Hammerpede is weird since it doesn't have legs.
I think it's been decided on Bodyhugger and Proto Alien, can we agree on a name for this thing yet?
Also, yes, those indigenous worms turn into the... thing... on the count of black goo.

iapetus
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 8:50 AM...what about 'Millbworm' ?
Sorry for being an annoying vertebrate zoologist here, but they are nowhere near 'reptilian', as people here or biologist Millburn himself did say.
Plus the film leaves no doubt about their wormy origin, and Millburn deserving his name being revered as for being the most notable idiot among field biologists...

Ripley McPreviouscharacter
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 8:55 AMMillbworm sounds awesome. *thumbs up emoticon*

Gimm-e
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 8:58 AMit looked more amphibious to me, considering it's crawling in the black goo. But it is never said that these worms evolve into that cobra-alien, we're all just assuming it. Can you see where this kind of sloppy writing is going?
You don\\\'t see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage!

Ripley McPreviouscharacter
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 9:08 AMNo one ever outright said facehuggers put chestbursters inside a host, we're all just assuming it. Can you see where this lack of understanding that films need to "show, don't tell" is going?

iapetus
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 9:15 AM@Gimmefacehug
Nah buddy, I disagree. No director spends even a few seconds showing you 'worms under the shoe' or then 'worms bathing in the films' most mysterious element' just for the sake of it... Mostly when the director is Ridley Scott and the movie is Prometheus and each shot will be over-analysed 1000s of times over next years (decades).
The camera pan is either plain unnecessary or plain intentional. Now based on that, and on cinema 'visual vocabulary' and screenplay storytelling, you must considered there is absolutely no doubt left in the slightliest as to where the millbworms come from.
@Ripley McPreviouscharacter
Thx! haha liked it when it pooped in my head too, think it could catch maybe, will try to start a trend *wink smiley*

Gimm-e
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 9:41 AMWE NEVER GOT ANY PROOF THAT THOSE WORMS UNDERNEATH THE AMPULES ARE THE COBRALIENS. NEVER... for all i care, the ground was fertile enough to sustain life, that's it. WE ALL KNEW THE FACE HUGGER IN ALIEN WAS UP TO NO GOOD, JUST F*CKING LOOK AT IT.
You don\\\'t see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage!

iapetus
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 9:50 AMFirst, you can lower your voice along with your case.
Then, did you read?
Am not going to go into a yelling contest: you have 2 shots, that last for several long seconds, in a context where they would have no reason and no meaning.
The 'footprint revealing worms' shot is even just a clear cut on its own, not coming from another sequence. It serves no purpose other than introducing the worms.
The 'exit' shot in the monolith head room, with said worms bathing would have no purpose either. Except for hinting us at 'what can you expect will come out if you mix "worms+black-goo".
Maybe you expected a fade to black, a little waiting melody and Ridley Scott's face featured full screen telling you 'pay attention, these will turn into the millbworms! Now, back to your movie...'. That sure would have made for a great, subtle film.
Now go for it, serve us some more uppercase...

Gimm-e
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 9:53 AMforget it, it's not worth it...
You don\\\'t see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage!

Gimm-e
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 10:02 AMSorry guys, I didn't wan't to insult anyone... or yelling. But we sure needed a comprehensive plot... that's all. Again sorry, I'm just pretty upset right now...
You don\\\'t see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage!

Ripley McPreviouscharacter
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 10:14 AM???
I was trying to show you how that logic you used didn't make any sense by applying it to something that was shown to the audience the same way that nobody thinks twice about. I guess it went over your head?
@iapetus I'm never calling it anything else now, it's settled. Millbworm 4 life. *gangsta face*

iapetus
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 10:32 AMok, apologies for my reply too, could have done without the sarcasm.
I guess anyone can have his own view on elements that are not indeed clearly stated.
My take is along @Ripley McPreviouscharacter's one.
To me the storytelling made it just as clear as the relationship one assumes between facehugger/chestburster.
*goes into reveries thinking how, sitting by my holoplasma chimney, I will tell my grand-children "well, that ol'iapetus fellow you call gd'pa... well he once named those little bastards, the millbworms... Now do as mama Meredith tells and go drink your black-goo before sleepin"*

Gimm-e
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 10:36 AM@Ripley McPreviouscharacter
I understand your concerns, but it didn't just go over MY head. I also wanted this movie to rock, more than anything else, but... just go see it yourself. Perhaps we can agree on some things...
You don\\\'t see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage!

Ripley McPreviouscharacter
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 10:40 AMSure, I'll just get in my time machine and travel to next week. :/

ninjacop
MemberOvomorphJun-01-2012 3:01 PMWe see 2 main cycles of the ooze life in the film, the 3rd is the most important...
[b]little worms[/b]--> exposed to black ooze from ampule --> turns to a reptile/facehugger -->rape the guy with glasses --> we don't see it again
[b]black ooze[/b] from ampule--> acid blood on tatoo guy --> posseses him? --> dies
[b]Black ooze from ampule[/b] --> given to holloway by david --> holloway now poisoned impregnates shaw --> shaw's abortion --> this creature grows --> giant facehugger impregnates engineer --> proto-xeno bursts out of engineer
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