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2000 year old S.J. corpses.

ahab26

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I've just finished watching Prometheus [despite lurking on this board for months i've held off posting till i'd seen the film] and think I may have spooted an angle that hasn't been covered. I appreciate I might be wrong and this has infact been done to death but if not... Shaw dates the Space Jockey's skull to 2000. From what we can infer from the movie at the point at which this one dies something went wrong with the weapons they were planning on using to destroy humanity with and they themselves were killed. Given that one of the great mysteries of Prometheus is the motivation that spurred our creators to wreak genocide then perhaps the ate of 200o years takes on significance. Perhaps the birth of Christ [with whatever that represents and entails in Prometheus' universe] was the catalyst for our creators' rage. Despite being historically on dodgy grounds considering the glut of other theologies humanity has had to offer perhaps the suggestion is that the birth of Christianity was the point we turned away from the view of the Space Jockey's as our gods...and that they were less than thrilled with this development. Such an idea neatly dovetails with Shaw's own religious struggles in the film. Again if this is the flogging of a dead horse i'm sorry, but if not i'd be interest4ed to see other's views.
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ahab26
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Wirrn I know you in spoilers but i also know you haven't seen the film yet. Unless you know exactly what happens do yourself a favour and wait a few days before reading below... I'm not certain Wirrn I haven't fashioned this into anything like a watertight theory yet. It's just the date seems to be important. From the cace paintings and other culural depictions the Space Jockeys have been visiting their creations for thousands of years...and presumably have been happy enough with what they saw. Then 2000 years ago they decided to destroy us, why? Perhaps the date Shaw gives for their remains is not pertinent it's just a random age...but if not there seems to be a reference to the birth of Christianity. Maybe this marked the point where we began questioning the Engineer's origins and seeking powers beyond our physical gods. Interestingly Shaw herese;f references this idea when asked if the discovery of the Space Jockeys has destroyed her [Christian faith] she replies of course not...as who created them. Perhaps this impertinence is what drives the revived engineer's ire toward David. we've created life...and clearly we are not gods. The implication of course being that the engineers themselves are subject to a higher power. Considering the first Space Jockey on screen [who sacrifices himself to seed life on earth] appears to be indulging in a quasi religous ceremony than maybe our own creation of life in the form of David is the ultimate blasphemy.
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I always thought that when charlize says "king has his reign, and then he dies" was refering to christianity/ god and how religion is viewed in light in modern scientific theories ...not to mention having proof that u were created by blue dudes instead of a omnipotent creator such as god
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I can't believe people can be so unimaginative. This has been covered in other threads, for instance: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/6543
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I LIKE this thread! Now we are talking! Look at how THE X-FILES story arc developed, regarding the various alien factions that were involved in the conspiracy, and how they also realized that with their various forms of technology, they also knew of a mysterious force in the Universe that they could not control. Mulder: "That there is a God, a higher power".
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Wouldn't have thought the engineers would be petty enough to travel light years to destroy us just because with free will we started to believe in the Christian god. What about all the other gods humans had been worshipping for centuries before Jesus came along? Also, the film is set in 2093. Carbon dating measured the engineer corpse at 2000 years. I wouldn't have thought the prometheus's sophisticated instruments would be inaccurate to as much as 5%. Nice theory by 2+2 strangely adds up to 5 here I think.
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I was unsure if this topic had been covered before Nysalor and went out of my way to apologise if it had. If it has been touched on only in that one thread then that's not bad going considering the repetition is so many threads. As to my ''lack'' of imagination you fail to provide any reasoning to bring you to such a conclusion...and your vapid logic in the thread you linked to simply illustrates a turgid pygmy fascism as to the manner of religous debate within film. There is no limit whatsoever to the genre of a movie that cn discuss such topics...no matter how pretentious the detractor.
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I'm glad you like it Bioscope. Quite possibly Ava but then what motivation could they have for wanting to destroy us. What quantative difference between 2000 years ago and, say 5000 years ago? I thought given the extreme reaction of the Space jockey to David that the creation of ''life'' is seen as a grave affront for some reason. An implied religous reaction seems possible. perhaps the space jockey's consider themselves Gods and it was our questioning of that conceit that invoked their wrath... or maybe not! Absolutely I mentioned the idea was on dodgy grounds historically perhaps the power of artistic liscence! As for it being 2093 I thought the margin of error seemed reasonable for carbon dating though quite possibly that could be wrong. I also thought that as a plot device saying 2000 years is vague enough that you can infer either way, it could be significant or not wheras a date of 2093 years would have been precise enough to leave no doubt in a film that thrives on ambiguity.
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Ahab26 Good points. You're prob right. Call me devils advocate! Lol
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Heh no worries Ava and as a devil's advocate I thought all your objections were valid. I suspect that, like so many theories about various Alien films, this is just so much vapour...but that's half the fun!
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And on that note i'm off to work ,have a good day.

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