Please help me disprove my theory.

DoogieTalons

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Please help me disprove my theory... I have read the official review of this site and seen the film and I can't see past my theory. I have just read the official review of Prometheus on this board. The holes in the plot and indeed the confusion evident in the review seem to be able to be covered with my simple concept which I posted as a brain dump earlier this week. The Engineers have encountered/created the Xenomorph many many years ago in the form we are familiar with from Alien. They have concurrently found a use for the DNA or continued development of same as far as a weapon and a way of seeding life. The xenomorph we know from Alien is NOT an evolved version of the xenomorphs/chestbuster/snake/tentacles ect. The xenomorph we know from Alien is the original form of the Alien. In the mural of the xenomorph we see a potential Queen and in the bottom left and right we see a depiction of the face hugger from Gigers original concepts about to infect a human. I think the film makes perfect sense if the Sj/Engineers have encountered the Xenomorph AS WE KNOW THEM FROM ALIEN in ancient history, and what we see in prometheus is new in both evolution and chronology. So forget your Prometheus proto-hugger and proto-xeno, these are just new and a side effect/danger/meltdown/inevitable consequence of mistakes of using the bio former. Something as powerful as a component that can bioform a world from one Engineer is bound to have a few side effects. I hold for posterity that everything in Prometheus is a result fo the Engineers playing with fire... the original egg laying xeno. I would love to hear why this could not be so. Because is it the only plausable explaination for the ancient egg carrying ship in Alien with a chest busted Sj/Engineer. Infact in good old fashioned scientific peer review I would like to hear Sound arguments that disprove my theory.

WhyDontTheyFreezeHim
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June 08, 2012

Sounds good to me :)

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June 08, 2012

Seems plausible and, furthermore, would fit the timeline of events as I previously discussed here: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/6766 See what you think ;)

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June 08, 2012

It's just one possibility as much as another - the possibility that the xenomorph is closer to, "first", than it is to, "last", is one that I and some others have supported for a very long time - all the self-satisfied Authors cryptically claimed was that there would be a connection to Alien via "DNA". The first time I heard people talking on and on about, "the progenitor", this and, "the proto-Alien", that - was on this forum. But, so what if the xenomorph is first? As far as I can see, adopting that perspective alone would certainly not be enough of a magic bullet todeal with the catalogue of inconsistencies in Prometheus I'd like you explain how that works. Furthermore, it's by no means certainly the case - that thing that appears at the end of Prometheus could very easily be interpreted as the "progenitor" everyone wanted to see - but it could just as easily be interpreted as a, "decedent", of the the Alien via it's DNA. At best the situation is ambiguous at worst it's confused. In this case, I don't think there anything to, "disprove", you have just made your interpretation. What we observe could easily fit that interpretation but it could easily fit another - with what has been clearly defined of the Story so far, it doesn't actually much seem to matter.

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June 08, 2012

Totally agree, so I haven't much else to add. The aliens we see in Prometheus can hardly be proto-anything when we've explicitly been shown the Engineers already had prior knowledge of the Xeno. I also like your idea that the black goo is possibly derived from them. Either that or the green urn is a fail-safe should the black goo infect anyone.

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June 08, 2012

Yes Vincent, it fits. People expecting the plot in Prometheus to have a causation of the Alien plot are probably going to be disappointed. The Alien plot and the cause of the crash on LV-426 may be explained in future sequels by way of story telling, but certainly not caused by any events this side of the timeline.

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June 08, 2012

I agree with you, the creature seen in Alien in all it's various forms - from the egg all the way to the full-grown xenomorph - is a much older life form than that seen in prometheus. I don't know if it's established in Prometheus or not - haven't seen it yet - but everything indicates that the derelict found in Alien is ancient - so it would follow that the eggs onboard are ancient as well.

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June 08, 2012

@GetEveryone But we haven't been [i]explicitly[/i] shown that at all: did you see an actual xenomorph in this film - or did you see something or somethings that looked similar or seemed to share similar traits? Can you say for certain whether that similarity is indicative of precedence or descendence? If you can, what is that certainty based on?

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June 08, 2012

*allinamberclad Good points, perhaps... the Sj/Engineers know that a Xenomorph of some description is always a possibility emerging under the right circumstances of a goo-Mutated creature implanting it via face rape of another life form.

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June 08, 2012

@allinamberclad Well we see the mural, and on the mural is something depicting a xenomorph form. There is also as part of the same mural a depiction of facehugging from Giger's original concepts. This showing that the facehugger is not an evolved more efficient form of the body hugging tentacle beast.

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June 08, 2012

The one in the mural looks just like the new xenomorph to me - same pointy head and everything. Keeping in mind that the one shown coming out of the SJ at the end of the film is newborn and not fully developed, I can see how it might grow into what is shown in the mural. Hell the chestburster in Alien didn't have a lot of the fully grown Alien's attributes when it came out of Kane, no arms, pipes coming out the back, I don't even know if it was meant to have legs but we never saw them - basically it was a worm with teeth.

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June 08, 2012

Some Evidence...[img]http://www.lunch-break.co.uk/media/1204/alienmural.png[/img]

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June 08, 2012

@DoogieTalons The relief is only just as xeno-[i]like[/i] as the mural is? I don't think there is actually one single thing in this film that suggests whether these artefacts pre-date, or post-date the xenomorph that we understand. For the moment, seems to me, it could quite easily be either case.

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June 08, 2012

To be honest, i'm not thinking to much about the xeno's great, i hadn't seen that facehugger of giger there, nice

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June 09, 2012

The other thing that I haven't seen considered here is that the xenomorph were in fact worshiped by the engineers and that perhaps they are the creators of their hosts - the engineers. In an effort to save themselves from the wrath of their deity they engineer mankind to be their salvation... I do think this is a cheap way out however... I believe the engineers have become a race that has total control over life - right down to the dna of it all. There can still be speculation as to the "why" they did it - maybe we will find out they did it just because "THEY COULD". A lot of subtleties in this film which is why I think so many people haven't truly "got it". Ridley has done something very unique in current day film history here - he has given us the strands of information to make humanity think, to speculate and to invent. These three humanistic traits give rise to what I have said in previous posts - knowledge is power. Will post the link to the podcast when done with production.