NEW ARTICLE DETAILS THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN PROMETHEUS AND ALIEN

None of you know the answers, not because the movie is clever but because its a dreadful mess.You all know your stuff and are tearing it to shreds,You are looking for some Star trek style timeline and there isn't one.Yes the scale is wrong ,schoolboy error in this catalogue of errors.Yes the Jockey was back in the hot seat in Alien,yes no Cryo chambers in the ship in Alien. Shaw sent the code in plain English but in Alien all they do get some kind of morse code,But then is this a different planet to the one in Alien? Hey who knows ? .How much cash do you want to spend to find out ? RS either knows by now he has boobed big time or is conning us into a sequel .Either way we have been had.

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lol spartacus your picture is already a spoiler

Nice find, thanks!

Greatly appreciated, thanks.

That's a good article! But this one is absolutely amazing/mind-blowing & revolutionizing..... [url=http://www.thewertzone.blogspot.com/2012/06/filling-blanks-tying-prometheus-to.html]Filling the blanks: tying PROMETHEUS to ALIEN[/url]

Yeah...eerr... I just don't like the idea of the Xenomorph being natural. Every one of it's characteristics points towards it being a bioweapon. Although, on the other hand... It would be more epic if it were natural, and had it's own home planet. But then again, there's not much you can do there. So it's a epic VS depth/detail/interesting factor tradeoff.

Not sure if already posted, or side tracking the thread, but did anyone notice the space jockey in Alien was much much larger than the one in Prometheus? If you look at this picture - http://horrorfanzine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/alien-04.jpg The scale of the humans compared to the space jockey, the space jockeys head is almost the size of the human :|

Hmmm... would they just let it go, rather than have huge Space Jockeys towering over Shaw, or is he special? Is he an [b]atoning priest[/b]... an actual Engineer rather than one of the cloned worker drones.

Regarding the size of the Space Jockey, well some of this is down to mistakes made by Ridley Scott in the way he shot the movies. As he used child actors to play the crew when they walked up to the Chair, this made the Space Jockey look massive, like 12-15ft. You do see the real life scale in this image. [img]http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb381/jmichinock/Space-Jockey-pg-99.jpg[/img] Whats nice about this image is you can see its the un finished prop and can make out from this that the Space Jockey does not look like a Skelton like it did in Alien but more like a Space Suit. Ridley used child actors walking upto the Chair to give us a illusion and a sence of bigger scale... The size of that Jockey above compared to the production staff working on it, is the same scale of the ones that are hanging on the walls in Prometheus and the Dead one on the floor.... In Prometheus Ridley makes another error with Scale, when he uses Small Shaw with the Engineers actor in a fight scene, again to create a illusion. But in doing so we see this Engineer compared to the door that leads to the lifeboat and then can see he is not as big as the suposed 9ft scale they wanted to have them as... So yes through out both movies there are some inconsistancies in scale... But it does not distract much from the movie, and we can still over all get the indication that the Engineers are 8-9ft tall.

Staff with a spoiler avatar? *Shakes head*

As far as that article well regarding the end of the movie it did leave the door open for 3 out comes... 1) Follow Shaw and David and find out where they go, what they find and who they meet.... 2) Follow events on LV 223, maybe Earth sends out another mission and they come across whats left behind including the potential Proto Xeno.... 3) Go back into the distant past, and maybe not set entirely on Lv 223 but the Engineers home world, where we can find out more about them and maybe what really went so wrong for them around 2000 years ago.... I think Ridley could do a number 1 that would tie in with number 3, via flash back scenes and at the end could lead to another movie that ties from end of Prometheus 2 with 1/3 covered that then explores 2... Which i think would allow a Prometheus 3 to see the Engineers that Shaw finds, head down to LV 223 to have a look at what went down, maybe destroy the out post but then on way home they pick up a unwelcome passenger.... that then finally leads us to Alien.

@MVMNT quote - "Staff with a spoiler avatar? *Shakes head*" Dude, since this page has no spoiler section anymore and that most of the things being posted here are pure spoilers (including pictures) I see no reason why you cant have a spoiler avatar as well.

This to me is 50% right and 50% wrong....engineers already have a looonggg history....with the xenon and its life cycle....also the dead engineers piled up against the door have holes busting out of their chests and head....(where the offspring went who knows) but its all a very similar life cycle....firstly davids container is a different, smaller type of container with what seems to be a different type of 'goo' stored in a different way and finally why would the engineers want to impregnate humans (billions of us) with an organism to destroy us that they can't completely control themselves (not saying they weren't going to destroy us but in that way?) , that seem to have killed the piled up engineers and indeed does kill the engineer at the end of the movie and shows up in 'ALIEN' with yet another chest busted space jockey/engineer....bunch of dumbasses huh?...there's a lot more than that wrong here!

@ nickell: i was considering the possibility that the engineers weren't trying to "destroy" earth, but actually repopulate it with xenos. they apparently engineered a technology which (essentially) converts humans to xenos. why not test it out on a mass of humans which they created to begin with?

I noticed ridley tried to cram a lot of cobbs original designs for Alien and jodorowskis dune into prometheus, even the huge monster reminds me of cobbs original design before giger came on board. I noticed the belly of the ship lowered like thunderbirds two in a nod to Martin Bower who built the original nostromo ship.

@aliceayers...Firstly i'll say it again...i didn't say destroy earth...i said destroy "US" 2ndly........to what end?....why create billions of xenos that they themselves can't fully control...given the proof in prometheus and alien....again why populate earth with xenos?...they can't even transport eggs or goo...without getting themselves killed....what chance have the got creating billions of them on earth.....sorry waaay off for me.....

All life on Earth from single-celled to modern humans shares a common ancestral DNA. If the engineers seeded life on earth as in the panspermia theory, they would have done so approximately 4 billion years ago. This means the opening scene with the Dr. Manhattan/Voldemort-looking alien took place 2-4.5 billion years in the past in order for his DNA to have seeded all life on Earth. Fast forward to when the engineers all died or went into stasis a mere 2,000 years ago. Why does their species appear EXACTLY THE SAME? They haven't evolved at all, while humans meanwhile have evolved from simple life forms into mammals, higher mammals, apes, primitive humans, modern humans and now have advanced technology and are capable of space travel. Meanwhile, the "engineers" haven't aged a day and their technology is roughly the same as it was thousands, millions, or billions of years ago. Also, when Dr. Shaw analyzes the DNA of the dead engineer, the computer says the DNA is a "match." If the engineers only visited Earth much more recently (tens of thousands of years ago in the cave paintings) and created humanity with DNA identical to their own, then modern humans would look identical to the Dr. Manhattan/Voldemort aliens. If the DNA matched completely, humans would HAVE TO look just like the aliens. No way around it.

The're a lot a theories floating around and this article is at least comprehensible compared to the biblical and mythological interpretations. I don't consider Prometheus as a religious/mythical adaption, because the movie emphasizes an atheist point of view. Hence the Nietschze quote on that 'whats110212' or something website. Most people miss the meaning of that black stuff, wich plays a key roll. It is in fact a substance that gives any organisme an 'evolution boost'. Those white snakes were actually just worms before they came in contact with the stuff. That enhanced their survival capabilities, and are not just simple monsters. Therefore, i think Engineers are us + black stuff (Nietsches ubermensch!). A combination made thousand of years ago. The only pitfall is that it disables independent reproduction. All the engineers are men, Aliens need a host etc. The theme of reproduction is at the heart of the Alien series. Engineers needed us to reproduce wich motivated them to create worlds and humans. But, this means we as humans discovered the black stuff. However, their reproduction process had a catastrophic epidemic mishap --> the Aliens that wiped out all the engineers. A mishap due to our intervention. E. Shaw did not give birth, she wasn't even pregnant (David says so), it has nothing to do with religion (in terms of conception). The squid = spermcel + blackstuff. --> creates facehugger. Aliens are no engineer pets, or biomass weapons. Couldn't you see the engineers running like little bitches!? Wouldn't you be pissed of at an inferior race that you need to sustain yourself and wich causes above all an epidemic flood of ALiens? "there is nothing" ....but reproduction and the power to reproduce wich captivates the true meaning of life. Thus my interpretation of the movie. I like this view a lot better, but it doesn;t solve everything

@nickell: apologies for misunderstanding. for me, the main point of Prometheus is highlighting the idea of Existential nihilism: that there is no reason for creation. david was created [i]because we could create him[/i] we were created [i]because the engineers could create us[/i] why would the Engineers want to test creating a colony/planet of xenos? why not, if they could? i know this type of "anti-meaning" doesn't sit well with a lot of film goers, but i really liked the way it was done in Prometheus.