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Was Vickers presence really necessary

mchesney

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Yeah, I know she looked really nice and there was the similarity between her (the daughter) and David "[as close to a son as [Peter Weyland] would ever have." But forgive me, I see no real purpose for her even being in the film. I mean she really accomplished very little and outside of showing us the necessity of learning to run to the right or left to avoid dangerous situations, she really added nothing to the story - that I could see. Killing her off seems rather melodramatic. Please enlighten me, tell me what she brought to the film that I obviously missed.
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I gotta say I didn't find her nearly as in-depth a character as I thought she was going to be. Then again, the movie was not at all what I thought and hoped it would be............ But it was a good way to kill a couple hours ;-)
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"Please enlighten me, tell me what she brought to the film that I obviously missed" half-nude push-ups and a sweaty crotch-shot.
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Without Vickers, you have no clear company suit to oversee the expedition and an absence of said suit would have felt even more out of place. Vicker's relationship with her "father" Weyland is dissappointing in that the specific line when she utters "father" comes off as contrived and, again, unnecessary. There's little to no build up, but one glance of a reference in Weyland's filmed intro to the mission and a few overtly subtle insinuations thereafter. I say dissappointing for two main reasons. [b]The amibigous nature of that relationship is so well acted and oddly apparent up until that line as to be interesting[/b], but is ruined entirely in the moment, because the line feels tacked on to satisfy a writer's NEED to deepen and complicate the overall thread of his story. Had they not had Theron clumsily spit out "father" like that, the ambiguity would have actually come across as interesting. Instead, the whole thing falls flat.
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@craig...yes, I agree...although, I still don't think Vickers was a necessary component to the film...would've been the same with or without her , IMHO...
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to me, Vickers was like cold wallpaper that really didn't do much other than provide icy stare and pretentious dialog when she bedded Janek, i wanted to laugh for all the wrong reasons i usually appreciate Theron's performances, i dig her acting abilities but this was just all too forced. when she finally ate the Juggernaut, i could have cared less. (my god - - i can't believe i have the need to state this) damn....
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I think the scene during the briefing where she looks down at the floor when Weyland says, "He is the closest thing I will ever have to a son......' says it all............... And no, I don't think she was there for much more than that...........
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Fie, you scoundrels!.. Good God - stop bashing Meredith! Has it thus become [i]sport?!![/i] Vickers is one of the most complex and developed Characters in this comedy. [i]Nobody[/i] was, "necessary", according to this inane script, and all the characters were badly served by it, however, to me, Vickers represents one of the greatest wastes of Character in the whole thing; Socially awkward, anti-social and aggressive - yet practical, common-sense - and with a tendency to be RIGHT. Unresolved Daddy issues, full of resentment; disciplined, while able to break the rules and be a flirty girl to prove a sexual point. She's a complete [i]mess[/i] - and, as a result, I thought she was one of the most interesting Characters in there. He who would say otherwise may gladly choose pistol or sabre.
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well put allinamberclad
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Forget vickers....what was the point of Weyland other than contributing to some of the more daft plot holes (favouries being why pretend you're dead). The whole 5 mins of his 'real appearance' must go down as one of the most bizarre and utterly pointless cameos that I can remember
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She may not be dead... she could have rolled away at the last moment or landed under some debris and crawled out. There is still the lifeboat on the planet as well... she could kill whoever is the victor of the jockey/pentapus struggle...
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Yeah...sorry Daniel_N...she's dead, no doubt about it....
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If there's no footage that is not in the theater then it nevers shows her being crushed. The wheel shape of the craft is so large that it could have pressed her into the dirt.... similar things have happened with infantry and tanks... just saying...
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@Daniel_N LOL - I know how you feel...personally, I think there was real mileage and potential in that Character....but, obviously, I'm in the minority.
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vickers was one of the best things about this film...mistake was offing her in such a ridiculous fashion, infuriating! Keep her alive and double team with Shaw and have a battle of wits with the final engineer and I would have been happy. What we got dished was derivative, rushed and unimaginative
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Daniel, If she survived, she would've hitched a ride with Shaw/David, otherwise she's dead meat anyway. I know, it's a waste, but what can ya do?
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Actually I kind of wished shaw got squished and vickers was the final survivor...that would have made the ending 10000% more interesting
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@JP Vickers/Shaw tag-team - see, that's [i]such[/i] a good idea? Even if Vickers was sacrificed during that, it would have been a nice piece of story and a fitting end to a character like that - but she just gets squished because she's made too dumb to run sideways? That's just, literally, an f-ing disgrace and an insult to an audience. Come on.
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I think this is a good topic for disscussion but I say wait until the Blu-Ray drops on us. 20 mins is a shit load of video. There could be some footage (most likely is) of her and others telling a side story or maybe a hidden agenda. This movie was chopped up by any standard looking at 20 - 30 mins. Looking back at Gladiator and Kindom I found both of those stories much better in charecter development after watching the directors cut. Never know.
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I was seriously expecting Ridley to do it...how do you top Ripley...how about two strong female characters. In the trailers when shaw was pleading about no home to go back to...I was convinced she was talking to Vickers wh we see running with her, the suit comes good Ina full character arc...because you know...it would be just bloody stupid to squash her because she couldn't run sideways...that would never happen
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@JP Yes - it would have played directly to Scott's "strong woman" themes. Plus I don't think we've ever seen, like a female two-handed fight for life ending, with no guys to save them - it would have been something: what an ending... Vickers sacrifice there would have been worthy. Whatever happened in this film....*smh*....

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