The Engineers; Good or Evil?

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I really hope Shaw gets to their Homeworld, and things don't go berserk. Nothin' but friendly conversation. Friendly conversation and tea (pinkies up!). Seriously, though... Personally, i would find it super lame, if they end up being the antagonists. Which leads me to the whole subject of wether or not they want to destroy humans, and the fact that Shaw is content they are. I mean... in Prometheus, we saw ONE group of Engineers. Which could very well be a group of Outcasts, on their own mission to destroy humanity. Come on, now... it's a little moon with an Engineer base on it. Not their homeworld. I'd really hate for them to be the main antagonists of the series. Shaw/future characters should gain the knowledge they are seeking, and the story should move on from there. Yes, yes, i know... it would look like a happy Disney/picture outlook. But if anything, the Engineers' KARMA should be the main antagonist. The product of their wrongdoing should be the antagonist. The Xenomorph is just the tip of the iceberg in that department. I just like the Engineers so much. They're SO COOOOOOOOOOOOL! They're even starting to surpass the Predators, and i LOVE Predators. And that says a lot. it's starting to be Engineers > Predators So, what do you say, folks?

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June 13, 2012

If Ridley Scott based the Engineers on Zoroastric Archons like I think he did then they are malevolent. And think Earth Humans are nothing but weeds to be pulled and tossed aside in the garden of space. He even said in one of the interviews to think of them like a gardener and that the Engineer at the beginning of the movie was planting a seed.

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June 13, 2012

Well for me I think the "Outcast" group is somekind of rebel group who weren't happy with the creation of humans. Then Shaw will go to the "Homeworld" and find out that the Homeworld's population has been killed by the rebel group with all the goo shit they produced.

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June 13, 2012

From the first time I ever watched Alien I thought the Space Jockeys were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I never imagined them as being evil or anything like that, but now we're being told they weren't all that enamored with us and that they are also our creators. Tried to take it too far I think......

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June 13, 2012

I know they have two more movies to discuss the why they want to kill us, but for me its simple, they create something that its selfdestructive (we are hehe) and worst have the capacity to reach them or surpass them with time.

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June 13, 2012

LHeureux: Interesting, but that would SUCK! For the Engineers, not story-wise. Although i'd be very disappointed... I want the Engineers to be alive and well. And with that in mind, once Shaw reaches the Homeworld, the sequel should be what Prometheus should HAVE been. An incredible amount of discovery and imagination should be experienced by the viewer. That's what i wholeheartedly thought Prometheus was going to be. Not an intro. I seriously hope that's the case. Because if it is so, then i'll forget all of the movie's flaws. Prometheus = Intro Next movie = Actual first If Ridley Scott ends up treating it that way, i'll go NUTS!

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June 13, 2012

I think a lot of this story is going to parallel what we know about God and gods here on Earth and weave it into the plot. A lot of the Sumerian stories are similar to the bible talking about outcasts and rebellion among the creators. I think Prometheus is going to be appreciated more as a whole once the sequel(s) are seen, a lot of people were expecting it to stand out on it's own as this great movie, but it's story was written depending on the sequels to tell this entire new mythos in the Alien universe.

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June 13, 2012

I'm kinda torn on that too. If they were the creators and thus elevated to a 'godly' level of being, this implies some form of omnipotence. So why would they need to create bioweapons? To destroy their creations, or to fight against a different faction? I'm gunning for the latter. =D Imagining friendly conversation between Shaw and Engineers reminds me of this: [img]http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/print/2009/2/aliens_vs_predator_pool.jpg[/img]

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June 13, 2012

Alien DNA: Hhhhmmm... yes, yes. I'd say that's a very nice conclusion you've come to. I figured as much. Shaw will more than likely be visiting the Engineers, who will be friendly. The LV-223 Engineers = Crazy pricks I'm sure of it. Also... Again, this thread, as of now, as of your post, is officially on the list of threads to remember. Along with GigerFace's thread, and Mr. Zygote's post in an earlier thread. You can check them out. This is AAAAAAAAALLLLL being amassed into my theory, which i will not post yet. @Daniregald: Why's it remind you of a Predator and Xenomorph playing Billiards?

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June 13, 2012

Because of how unlikely, yet epic, such a scenario would be.

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June 13, 2012

Uuummm... Unlikey? I don't see why. Otherwise, Shaw's going on a suicide mission. Epic, yes, because she's speaking with Engineers! But, unlikely, i wouldn't say so. They aren't LV-223 arseclowns.

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June 13, 2012

I love the engineers too dude. But the one waking up from stasis was a prick!

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June 13, 2012

I'm posting here because Pren begged me to in the Status Board.....

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June 13, 2012

Honestly, despite the fact that the last Engineer ripped off David's cage, and domed Weyland with it, punted a person, and flung another across the room. I felt sorry for the guy. Call me an LV-223 Engineer, but. I felt sorry for the guy! Especially when he get's implanted by the Bodyhugger. BUT, again. This theory of mine. Makes you really hate the Engineers. The ones that don't behave, anyway. @Abordoli: Yeah, OK... Prick... lol.

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June 13, 2012

Fair enough. I don't trust David as a reliable translator to properly achieve 'friendly' conversation though, especially since RS didn't want subtitles when he spoke to the loony engineer. Unless they're capable of speaking English... which they probably would have to be if the next movie centered around them, hmm.

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June 13, 2012

Did you well up when the body-hugger looked like it was going to win? Then when the head-acles came out, you knew all hope was lost......

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June 13, 2012

[i]Unless they're capable of speaking English... which they probably would have to be if the next movie centered around them, hmm.[/i] I'm sure they have developed babel-fish technology.....

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June 13, 2012

@ Abordoli LOL & yeah, i thought he was going to get out of that struggle for a second. Oh well. I hope they compensate for that with lots, and lots of Engineers in the sequel, and more on them. Their behaviour should be shown more thoroughly. And of course. Them kicking ass :D.

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June 13, 2012

Me i think, they will find ruins of an extinct (quasi?) civilisation. or a Post apocalyptic Engineer world. I also think he is using all the religions/mythology in the movie. The movie could explain why we have that in history. All those seem to have fighting gods/demigods/angels/ etc. For the rest i'm afraid we'll have to wait a too ong time

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June 13, 2012

[u]From the first time I ever watched Alien I thought the Space Jockeys were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I never imagined them as being evil or anything like that, but now we're being told they weren't all that enamored with us and that they are also our creators. [/u] Cypher, who TOLD you that the space jockeys were our creators? The woman who was "so, so wrong?" A lot of how we (mis)interpret this film comes from how much 'faith' we put in our earlier assumptions.

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June 13, 2012

What happens if you are a foreigner detected approaching any country on Earth with a shipment of biological weapons, regardless of what you say to the coast guard and immigration officials on the radio. I think it's safe to assume that Dr. Shaw's expedition will not end well for her.