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Shaw and the c-section

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Spacecase

MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 2:39 PM
I've noticed a lot of complaints about how Shaw would be in excruciating pain following the c-section. Well, if you remember, she has shot herself up with pain killers, like 4 times. You must also include the fear for her life that she feels, inducing panic which makes people ignore pain and other feelings. I don't know if people have talked about this but there you go anyway.
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Svanya

AdminPraetorianJun-13-2012 3:29 PM
Yeah BUT the thing is, those staples rip out really easily and most importantly when the stomach muscles are cut, certain movements are impossible to make until the tissue is healed. I know many women who have had C-sections and they all were unable to even stand the first week, however Shaw was not only walking around but climbing, jumping and falling, etc. That is why I think people are amazed at what she did, regardless of how much adrenaline or drugs she had in her system. Anyways it's a sci-fi movie and some things are going to defy logic or the story could not be told. **( If you are wondering how to see if someone has talked about a subject you are curious about just remember the search tool ONLY searches thread titles. Use Google to search thread bodies.)

David 1

MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 3:50 PM
Yeah... the C-session was a stretch. Should have been done in other way and let Shaw suffer... maybe bleed to death... That would be gory... me likes
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Bishop79

MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 3:56 PM
Or perhaps in the future the medpod is just so sophisticated and our understanding of human medicine is that much more advanced that we can super sophisticated home surgical tables that stitch us back up in a jiffy. I think when you think in terms of movies, you have to think in terms of when the movie is and what the knowledge would be like in the future. For instance, in the future we might have a better understanding of how cancer works over the next twenty years and maybe be able to start curing a lot more of it in 2033, but that would take twenty more years of research. So when movies like this come out, you can't really apply modern or present day thinking to a futuristic scenario that could be completely different in that context of time. And I'm still waiting for hover boards to get made.

allinamberclad

MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 4:22 PM
Yeah, @Svanya has spoken well: the problem most people have is not the issue of pain, but that we know the actual structures vital to moving, let alone walking and abseiling from heights, have been cut - and then the outer surface of the wound just stapled. No answer to deep-layer stitches or similar; no answer to healing. It just seems ridiculous. The same argument would be raised, for the same reasons, if a person lost their arm and it was re-attached by wrapping it back on with tape. A sophisticated sci-fi audience expects and deserves to have that kind of issue explained, even if it's with some old space-talk garbage, and they will accept plenty if treated with that respect. Otherwise it destroys illusion. Poor.

Spacecase

MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 5:29 PM
Hmmm you really consider yourself as a member of a sophisticated audience? The whole franchise is just the same. For some reason you criticize this for its science but not the other films? If you analyze it to that extent you purposely aren't enjoying the movie.

allinamberclad

MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 9:25 PM
Hmmm - yes, I do. [i][You[/i] might not - and you may well have good reason - but any doubts you have in that area are your business]. I am equally sure I am far from unique in that respect - only one of a great many who will appreciate that the entire franchise is [i]not[/i], "just the same" - as quality, I thought quite obviously, varies. Also one of the same many, I suspect, who, in this instance, are not criticizing it for poor science, as much as criticizing it for poor [i]story[/i] - and one of those same who will be able to tell the difference. You speak of analysis? Well ,we were promised, perhaps you recall, "sophisticated science fiction"? "Sophisticated science fiction", must be predetermined upon a sophisticated audience, otherwise who the Hell are you making it for? If you are making it for a, "sophisticated audience", then, I'd suggest, their analyses are [i]exactly[/i] what you should expect - otherwise you are either a damned imbecile, or a charlatan. Having made that declaration, your product had better stand the scrutiny and analysis of the, "sophisticated audience", that you have told the World you are making it for -and if it [i]doesn't[/i], well you have only [i]yourself[/i] to blame - [i]not[/i] the audience. I hope that clears up any remaining confusion you might have regarding, "analyze", "purposely", and, "aren't enjoying".

xenodochy

MemberOvomorphJun-14-2012 5:48 AM
Dr Shaw is riddled with Alien DNA that has "advanced" her, restoring her womb, enabling her to repair the wound, run, jump and fight an Engineer. This is what the Engineer recognised in Elizabeth and why he started killing when she was attacked. He was later not trying to kill Shaw but to subdue and capture her to take her to Earth to begin her work as Pandora.

Indy John

MemberOvomorphJan-21-2013 9:38 PM
There are many lines of thouhgt in this last post. The one i ;ll mention is the Engineer not tryiny to kill Shaw. He didn't try to chase her down the Juggeranut's tunnel when he decided to power up the spaceship and blast earth with the goo. If the Last Engineer wanted to save and not kill Shaw that last shuttle scene with Shaw he was doing more than trying to subdue him. I think in the Engineer's animalistic mind Shaw was the last reprepresentative of of the Prometheus crew. I'll watch that scene again and see if i have missed something. Speskingn of the crashed Juggernaut just when did he leavce his ship? and How? It would be surpising tyhat he didn't check on David's head first to make sure he was not 'active. But how did he leave the ship? maybe a parachute.
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javablue

MemberOvomorphJan-22-2013 9:56 AM
If you want to look at that last escape pod scene - look for the ring.

ThatSM

MemberOvomorphJan-22-2013 4:32 PM
[i]I've noticed a lot of complaints about how Shaw would be in excruciating pain following the c-section. Well, if you remember, she has shot herself up with pain killers, like 4 times. [/i] There is that. There is also the fact she's doubled over in pain numerous time per scene for the rest of the film. As for any other gripes - if people missed the futuristic auto space surgeon pod, well...

ElectricAve

MemberOvomorphJan-29-2013 10:50 AM
I figured that whatever she kept injecting herself with was probably more than the average 20th century medicine. Maybe it was actually a nanotech substance to kill pain and heal quickly???

Indy John

MemberOvomorphFeb-01-2013 1:53 PM
By the time Shaw met up with David all of the pain from the surgery must have disappeared. I hope she saved some medication for the next adventure. I wonder if the Juggernaut has a Medi Pod?
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oduodu

MemberXenomorphFeb-01-2013 5:08 PM
To all I agree that is a chance that she might have healed faster due to infection from Holloway as her ovaries were healed. But then in 2093 they will have medicine that can probably regenerate tissue and reconnect but that fact that she was walking immediately after getting out of the pod might be a stretch.

Anunnaki50

MemberOvomorphFeb-02-2013 1:00 AM
Yeah but she kept shooting herself up with all those painkillers over and over so she could run, if given enough adrenaline. When your adrenaline is going is acts like a painkiller and further more her body had alot of shots in her. Believe me you can do alot of stuff if you ABSOLUTELY had to.

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

Anunnaki50

MemberOvomorphFeb-02-2013 1:04 AM
Maybe those shots were more that just painkillers, maybe tissue stimulators. Plus her lower abdominal part was cut using a laser not a scalpel. A laser would have instantly carduerized her blood.

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

oduodu

MemberXenomorphFeb-02-2013 7:26 AM
Anunnaki50 On the subjest of the injections and what it does : It is a painkiller Anti viral/bacterium/fungi It heals tissues. So then the working must have been immediate . But then this sci fi in the year 2093 . We have no idea how powerful the technology has become. This reminds of when David said impressive when he looked at the green goo between his fingers. It looks a lot like nanobots (maybe?) in that goo ? Maybe they had nano technology that could heal tissues very quickly.
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