Heterotopia?

@ deaftones1986, So are yu talking primarily about relationships of people to one another, creating an "ideal" state, or space or just plain old galactic space, with it's anomalies ? An answer will be truly appreciated. thanks. pSI

Please elaborate in what way you think this concept specifically applies to Prometheus.

[quote][i]Could this movie just be insane?[/i][/quote] Well yeah. If Prometheus was even partially based on any of Lovecraft's work. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmicism]Cosmicism[/url] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovecraft]H.P. Lovecraft[/url]

Like [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_fiction]weird fiction[/url]?

LIke this movie isn't an alternate universe but just shows you a freaky negative mirror image of what happened but at the same time shows you what really did happen. So some scenes are as they DID happen and other scenes are the negate version like a backwards part. I dont know if I make sense but it would explain the moments where we're like "what the hell was that about?"

So the negative version of the scenes really didn´t happen?

I'm sorry: I'm obviously not clear on what you're suggesting as what you seem to be suggesting makes little sense, to me. My understanding is that Heterotopia exists, by definition, as a product of a Utopian ideal - or an attempt to create that ideal - and as an expression of conceptual and physical separation of frames of reference, within that ideal, or as a product of that ideal, or in a relationship to that ideal: mirrors are just a metaphor - and the concept has nothing to do with "sanity"... I'm confused as to where it is you're suggesting an expression of these relationships comes into play?

I think what he's trying to say is that the move had its pluses and minuses, just as life and we musn't hasten to say THIS MOVIE SUCKS, or THIS MOVIE DOESN'T SUCK because it is SUCKING by that which we are surround... Just my 2 cents.

what he's saying is that by necessity since total perfection can not exist in reality, the evil that is taken out of a utopia by necessity must exist somewhere. So if you have a utopia you also have a place where the things that don't fit that utopia go. Prison compared to regular society would be somewhat like an unidealized version (in theory) Now if this is a representation of that the black goo could be like the skin left behind in the episode of Star trek TNG where Tasha Yar Dies

Pretty much what you said Tathel.

What? I'm even more confused - within [u]Prometheus,[/u] how is the black goo in any way analogous?.. "Goo", cannot occupy a space of independent, relative, experience? And, where and what are you suggesting we should interpret as, "utopia"?!... Can you please explain?

I am now thinking about the idea of the engineers purging themselves of the black goo, it could explain. - why the exploding head was black gooish - why the engineers run into the place where the black goo is stored here are a few vague ideas, not meant to be concrete explanation but more brainstorming maybe they purify themselves in that temple (with the green crystal?) fill the urns, the xenomorph picture is there to remind them of what the evil they are cleansing themselves of could become... or maybe where it originates? could be possible they tried to improve themselves by doing something to themselves based on the original xenomorphs. Maybe rather than the black goo being the cause of whatever killed the engineers there, it's actually the fallout of them cleansing themselves. Maybe it was an experiment in a way to create life without dying? For example the engineer at the beginning drinks a black goo and breaks down into something that generates, or evolves life in a certain way. What if the engineers themselves are producing black goo as a result of an experiment to create life without sacrifice, maybe they broke the rule "To create you must destroy" none of this is very elegant and i'm not sure I think it's true, but it's the only reason other then "that room was the closest" i've thought of for why they run into that room.

And David, did they factor in any chaotic influences in their calculations. David is the definition of Heterotopia in a way, the untouched, untouchable, who contaminates everything with his touch. Missing out chaos in their calculations implies that it is the fatal flaw of a perfect society. What made that society so unbearable that it caused the Engineers to rebel in the way most of us here assume they did ? If heaven is utopia, heterotopia is either limbo or hell, both states which can be reversed, RE-Engineered if you will. Was it pride, a repition of the same earlier mistake that caused them to be blind to the meddling of an android, who more or less seems to have undone all their carefully planned work. They certainly didn't anticipate a Xeno in its proto humanoid form, in fact they wanted to kill it. This was supposed to be a strictly Engineer-Human interaction.