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Creator's Intent

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MemberOvomorphJune 21, 2012862 Views7 Replies
I am all for the kind of creative speculation and proposal of ideas embodied in these forums. I would not for a minute discourage anyone from pusuing them freely. I merely ask that you consider the expressed intent of the authors when formulating your ideas based upon the rich post release interviews given by Spaights, the author of the original script, Lindelof, who finalized and Scott who oversaw all. A case in point is this excerpt from a Lindelof interview given to io9.com "Ridley definitely had very specific answers to those questions and we talked a lot about how we wanted to put those answers into Prometheus. And whether or not we wanted to hold any of them back. It's a little bit obnoxious to say, "well if you like this movie, we'll give that stuff to you in the sequel." So you have to have a fair shot at being able to extrapolate based on the information in this movie. But I do feel like, embedded in this movie are the fundamental ideas behind why it is the Engineers would want to wipe us out. If that's the question that you're asking. The movie asks the question, were we created by these beings? And it answers that question very definitively. But in the wake of that answer there's a new question, which is, they created us but now they want to destroy us, why did they change their minds? That's the question that Shaw is asking at the end of this movie, the one that she wants answered. I do think that there are a lot of hints in this movie that we give you quite and educated guess as to why. But obviously not to the detriment of what Shaw might find when she goes to talk to these things herself." I find this quote amazing as Lindelf is saying they knew precisely what they were trying to do and that they had definite answers in mind and that they are in the film without reference to a sequel. This is reinforced later in the interview when Lindelof says, "All I'll say in response to your question is, nothing is an accident in Prometheus. Every single decision that is made by Ridley Scott is made for a very specific reason and purpose." I encourage you to review these interviews and make reference to the intent of the creators along with the free speculation that it is always prompted by an imaginative piece of art.
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Please excuse my typos. Next time I will proof better.
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Dude, you can edit your posts, so feel free to fix your typos. As for your post, the problem with that is that there's no guarantee that we'll ever get answers to the first movie in the second. It could have a different director and certainly a different writer and when that happens, the original intent becomes beholden to the intent of the creative team that follow. A good example of this is with James Cameron introducing the queen when Ridley Scott intended for a different means of reproduction.
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My point is that Lindelof says that the answers to questions about the references and intent of the film are in the original film WITHOUT REFERENCE to any sequel. Certainly the sequel may add to the original, or clarify it, or even creatively alter it as in Aliens. The point made by Lindelof is, "...I do think that there are a lot of hints in this movie that we give you quite and educated guess as to why," referring to the main question in the film embodied in the question Shaw asks, why after creating us did the engineers want to destroy us. This is what Lindelof says is the main theme, irregardless of what others may speculate about. Take it or leave it, but I say, give some weight to the guy who wrote the film.
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I believe one of the clues Ridley gives us is the carbon testing Shaw does on the dead engineers. What terrible thing did mankind do around 2,000 years ago that would deserve such a harsh reaction by our creator. I think he points to the crucifixion of Christ. Also it's no accident the mission begins on Christmas day.
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Give some weight to the guy who wrote the film? The problem with analyzing Prometheus is that the most superficial elements get in the way of what may lie underneath. If we can't get past the completely idiotic characters aside from the ones who behave strangely (David excluded), we can't begin to make educated guesses at anything. Regardless (irregardless isn't a word) of whether or not Lindelof actually has answers to the questions that people have, why doesn't he ever say anything concrete? Why doesn't anyone come away with an interpretation that's not relying on their own notions about what the movie is? This is because there's very little evidence which would help to bolster one interpretation over the other. We need something to sink our teeth into rather than nothing. Prometheus feels to me like talking to a first-year undergrad who took a gen-ed class in something. This guy B.S.'s his way through the conversation by just saying familiar yet erudite words which may fool some around him into thinking that he's a smart guy. Unfortunately, for those who understand the context of what he's saying, he's just an ignorant guy who took a gen-ed class that likes to sound smart.
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Perhaps it is the, "intent", of the creators - that you would have us make some kind of allowance for - that is exactly the problem? @Xenotron has the exact measure of this form of priceless double-talk language, I would say.
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I think the answers are given in the movie. The first question is - why did they created us on Earth? The answer was simply given by Holloway when David asked Holloway why he was created 'because we could' As to why the Engineers want to destroy us. There are clues to that answer with the Vickers and Weyland 'father' scene. She wants to take over the corporation but he won't relinquish control. The 'son' would always want to overtake the 'father'. Human nature. In this case, the Engineers who created us realized our inherent nature is to overtake them. That makes us a dangerous creation and must be wiped out. Similar to The Rise of the Planet of the Apes theme. Intelligent apes created by man over takes the planet. This also explains why the 'they changed their minds' statement by Shaw. They made their creation on Earth. Made us aware of who our creators and where they came from by the cave paintings. But then realized these guys (us) are just as smart as the Engineers though primitive. Ooopps! bad idea... This also explains why the Engineer that was brought back from cryo went berserk after touching David. Not only did we traveled and found his base, we also created a synthetic being exactly like ourselves but without any of the emotional baggage or flaws. We actually one up on the Engineers in our creation of David. David doesn't have that inherent 'overtake' nature. So the Engineer was like 'Oh, crap! Let me try to destroy these guys while I have my second chance'

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