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gopal

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On the Weyland Industries website, Shaw is identified as faith based archaeologist. Shaw discovers a cave with the painting of the Engineers pointing to the stars. It’s implied that she believes in something. What is that she believes? That extra-terrestrials visited and intermingled with humans? Or the extra-terrestrials created humans? Or the extra-terrestrials created life on earth? What evidence is there for her to believe the latter? She is shown as highly religious and obviously a staunch Christian. How does she reconcile her religious believes with her believe about the Engineers? Can somebody explain this contradiction?

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Maiafay
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Since there's a lot of me in Shaw, I'll attempt to explain how she can believe the Engineers made us and still believe in God - she's what you call a non-traditional Christian (meaning she will have slightly different beliefs than "mainstream" religious types). There's always been debate on the interpretation of Genesis - is it all symbolism or is it literal? Like everything in the Bible, concepts and meanings are left to the reader's interpretation. Shaw believes in a higher being - God- and believes He had sent the Engineers to create us. She says to Charlie "Then who created them?" meaning she's certain there is divine inspiration guiding it all and she's open to the concept that God might be different than what she's been taught by her father. In real life, if we were ever to discover aliens (as in Prometheus, pictures and evidence that "suggests" we may have had such visitations already, and why Shaw composes this theory) existed, that doesn't mean toss everything out of the Bible and God isn't real. It means we're not alone. And I would expect similarities between our cultures (physical forms and religion) despite being separated by the stars.
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It seems clear to me Shaw would be an advocate of some sort of Intelligent Design. Whether that Intelligence is the traditional omnsicient/omnipotent Western God or some mortal alien species is neither here nor there; what is crucial is that the Designer is non-terrestrial in the conventional Darwinian sense. It is logically possible that humans engineered the Engineers. In this scenario, it then is also logically consistent that humanity is designed in both a Darwinian terrestrial sense, and in a non-terrestrial (ID) sense; humanity is both terrestrial and non-terrestrial.
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Yes its bloody obvious that the facts and figures I have heard from the bible were made up by men at the time or later when was re-written. And allot of the other things too. Allot of the old faiths have been rocked by modern living and science and are in decline - but people like faith it makes them feel better so the faiths are adapting and reinventing themselves...also what has been happening in science recently is the possibility of letting the 'GOD' theory in and after all we cannot got back past the big bang and many many questions will probably never be answered - the possibility of god is cleverly set up in this universe to be unprovable and provable the truth will probably blow our minds anyway : D ... some scientists even think our universe is infinite - thats enough to blow my mind : D (current visible universe size is 45 billion light years across) .
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David 1
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1 - Shaw is religious 2 - Shaw is also a Scientist 3 - Shaw believes in an ultimate creator 4 - Shaw also believes Humanity was created by aliens 5 - Shaw believes the ultimate Creator created the Aliens that created humanity [Shaw states clearly: "who made THEM?"] No contradiction.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
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mrphew
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@David 1 Love this answer. Simply effective.
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David 1
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mrphew: Simplicity is so underrated.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
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mrphew
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That's true. @David 1 Hypothetically, in relation to Shaw's belief, did the Engineers: 1. Believe or reject god? 2. Create humans to become gods themselves? 3. Seek to destroy Earth after mankind accepted god, two thousand years ago?
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David 1
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1 - unknown, but there are hints they keep stuff in Murals and whatnot. 2 - unknown [but Davi 8 mentions the possibility of creation "just because"] 3 - unknown, but the xeno mural standing as Christ and the dead Jockey carbon dating [plus David 8's finding of the Juggernaut leaving to Earth 2000 some years ago] is pretty much a religious statement rubbing in the viewers face
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

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