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Rubirosa
MemberOvomorphJul-04-2012 8:32 AMThis is just a thought that which came to me just know. Imagine if Peter Weyland already knew that there were Engineers living on LV-223. That could explain the reason that the Engineer reacted so violently when David spoke to him. Maybe all the tech that Weyland has accumalated in the past was stolen by a group of military scientists who were sent on a prior mission. When they landed they were greeted with open arms. When they asked for some tech the Engineers refused there request. That is when they opened fire on the Engineers. I think the Engineers were take by surprise. That is when the lone Engineer went into sleep to await the arrival of his fellow Engineers. It could have happened. I never saw any hand weapons in the Engineers hands. So getting caught of gaurd by a group of marines could have happened. That is also why the sight of David infuriated the Engineer so much, because he knew that Weyland took the tech from them to create cyborgs. But Weyland himself went to LV-223 know negotiate away so that he could imortality. That would explain why David knew his way around the cave, and would open doors easily. Or why he stole the urn, because he already knew that the urn could either evolve life in some way. The way he wanted would evolve man to immortal statis.
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HyperNova
MemberOvomorphJul-04-2012 8:46 AMI wonder if there will be both a sequel and a prequel to Prometheus, being filmed in such an ambiguous way as Blade Runner was so as to leave open field for exploration into the backstory era of the franchise and its continuation on into the future.
It would be interesting to see what the idea would be to the prequel to Prometheus if thought about doing such a project and if the sequel could be called Paradise what would the prequel be called?
Or, wouldn't it be a good idea to do a prequel called Paradise and see what occured upon the Bio Engineers homeworld and the apparant irony of using such a name to describe it as there are hints that it is anything BUT paradise now on their original world. That I would like to see!
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MemberOvomorphJul-04-2012 2:51 PMI think the Weyland angle would be a great path to take. They are the undercurrent of evil that persists throughout all of the movies and stories... never underestimate the lengths for which a Corporation will go to gain profits. Very interesting and would make a great side-story.
Rubirosa
MemberOvomorphJul-04-2012 10:00 PMI think it would put an interesting angle to the Prometheous story. Which would validate what we think the Engineers think about us. The human race is so devious. Especially when we talk about billion dollard companies. I dont care what they say. It is almost impossible for companies can go from million dollar companies to billion dollar companies by following guide lines. Crimes have to of beem comited. That is exactly what Weyland corp. probably represents to Ridley. He taking a man like Weyland who thinks that he can buy imortality with all his money. I think that the Engineer took notice of that right away and attacked Weyland and everybody else. The Engineers did not want the human race to evole to what it is today. They had better plans for us. But when they sae Weyland they decided to get rid of is one way or the other.
joeyjoe
MemberOvomorphJul-04-2012 11:48 PM@rubirosa... of course large corporations can act deviously. selfishness, arrogance, and greed are inherent human traits. Corporations are comprised of humans; ergo... corporations (or facets of corporations) manifest traits that are consistent with humanity. Just because the stakes are higher (big money) with corporations doesnt make the actions of someone who swindles someone else out of 5 bucks (or whatever...) any less selfish or greedy. I guess my point is that the bottom line...and the compelling observation and critique... is the intrinsic imperfection/self serving nature of every human being that has ever lived (to somewhat varying degrees, of course). The corporation is just an artifact of the human experience. Of course, thats just where my mind goes when i think about the aspects of the film you folks have mentioned. Interesting train of thought. nice post guys/galls. goodnight.
Indy John
MemberOvomorphJul-05-2012 11:14 AM"...When they landed they were greeted with open arms..."
In the scene where it appears that David is talking to Peter in hushed tones(before being confronted by Vickers) can we be assured he was talking to Peter? Perhaps he was talking to the Engineers,,through a secret transmission device..
When the Engineeer wakes up.. talks to David,,and becomees outraged,,this occurs because the Engineeer realizes that David is working more for Peter/David's self interest,,rather than the expected android working with/for the Engineers..
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Nuck Chorris
MemberOvomorphJul-05-2012 12:13 PMMaybe - maybe not. Who the hell knows what goes on in the head of some movie screenwriter...
Indy John
MemberOvomorphJul-05-2012 12:29 PM...or poster.....
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Indy John
MemberOvomorphJul-05-2012 12:34 PM"......Weyland corp. was there before..."
I think you are onto something that Weyland Corp..had contanct with the Engineers before our story begins..A careful examinatiuon of the Engineers suits/artifacts/ship should have some Weyland connection..and knowing how egotistic some humans are,,a tiny 'Weyland' symbol is imbedded on something somewhere in our story...
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Asgardian Playboy
MemberOvomorphJul-05-2012 2:52 PMReally well thought out Rubirosa, I would love to see that backstory in the next movie. Something about betrayal and revenge, I would love that.
On the other hand its statet that the incident happend around 2000 years ago, wich doesnt match with your theory.
The writer said the they almost did go with the Jesus story, and that the death of christ by human hand did create the massacre of LV 223, in some way they didnt explain. And in consequence the engineers headed out to earth to make human life end.
Rubirosa
MemberOvomorphJul-05-2012 7:00 PMYou are so right about the 2000 year gap. I did not think about that. The only thing I want fromt the sequel is at least the question of why did the Engineers create us. Maybe that is asking to much especially when you have Lindeldof as the head writer. But we can dream about it.
Indy John
MemberOvomorphDec-28-2012 12:10 PM"... Imagine if Peter Weyland already knew that there were Engineers living on LV-223..."
You know with the various terra forming projects Weyland was involved with at some point he may have come across some examples of previous terra forming project involving who we call the Engioneers.
Speaking of travelling to LV-223 do you think that Weyland would have tested this propulsion system a bit before taking off for a 2+ year FTL mission knowing this would be his last chance to find immortality?
That is akin to pushing all your chips to the center of the poker table sayng you are all in.
When Vickers says 'I like to minimize risk' I think she learned that from her master Daddy Weyland. And i think he might still have a back up pklan in place or several steps are missing from our version of the storyline that shows Weyland actually planning and preparing for the Prometheus movie.
In reading over the last pargraph one thing that Weyland might have done is send an unmanned/andriod space ship to LV-223 a year ealier to gather data to see if anything was really worthwhile.
Knowing about the warning signal depicted in Alien might have done the exploring for him and convince to be 'all in'.
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