Engineer turns into reptile :S

The feet/hands look like features of the Deacon......The rest,,well I dunno..

all i see is a lizzard...

I don't see how you come to that conclusion. That an Engineer may have been at the root of a process that caused a reptile with plants all around it to come into being, would not be the same thing as an Engineer having turned into a reptile with plants all around it.

I'm sorry but did we all just completely forget about the theory of evolution here? The Engineer didn't "Turn" into a reptile. It evolved. From DNA into a single cell life-form and so on. As is shown in the cell division in the opening scene. the curve ball is that it was because of the Engineers seeding this step of evolutionary life, rather than the big bang etc. *Groan*

Is this actually part of the movie? That was cut out or a story board..... Well the movie seems to be going the route that combines Evolution with Creation. EVOLUTION.... all life was created from simple Organisms and one theory is that a Comet hit the Earth over 1 Billion Years ago that contained Amino Acids that then went onto to form the building blocks for life and thus Evolved from simple Organisms to what we have today. CREATION..... one aspect of creation was that a all mighty single being created all life from near enough nothing and it did not evolve, each creation was how it was created. CREATION (Ancient Astronaut) .... this one is basically the believe hat there was not just ONE GOD and that these Gods created man from Mud (varies from culture to culture) that was fused with their own Blood. PROMETHEUS is kind of going the route of EVOLUTION but that is kick started from the Blood of one of the creators. so similar to the Ancient Gods from the Skies. Were that instead of a Comet that hits earth and deposits the basic building blocks off life, it is instead one of the Engineers via breaking down his DNA/Matter to create those building blocks.

reptiles? got me into thinkning.

This is all to dumb to discuss about it... - The engineer gives his body to seed some DNA (why? - why not give some stem cells and fly back home and have some beer? So must be some stupid religious ritual. nice - but stupid). - the engineers DNA matches 100% human DNA. (really? what a dumb crap. They look much different then us. IF engineers dna leaded to mankind - with millions of substeps in evolution like fishes, dinosaurs etc - why is it THE SAME`? completely dumb. ) So my only conclusion is 1. The engineers were made from US, maybe hijacked people from earth 2. they cutted the movie so brutal that you miss main parts, just for one purpose - to make you discuss eternaly. Idiotic.

or... 3. the Engineers developed the substance in the cup to gradually and selectively introduce elements of their genome into the ecosystem, eventually resulting in the pre-programmed evolution of mankind

Blackgoo + sacrificial engineer = primordial soup Simples.

Humanity is the evolutionary result of black goo + engineer. Humanity exhibits aspects of engineer (physique, head and face) and the black goo (sex organs, impregnation of mother and birth of child).

@alinnumberclad Becuase the sequence happens in seconds I see nothing to tell me it was supposed to be billions of years. @MVMNT same to you the sequence look like seconds so the engineer was a salamander less than a minute later. @others : Yes I guess it could be that essentially that salamander goes off and mates with the other salamanders already there has an advantage and becomes the dominant salamanda with a few little changes and so subtly alters the DNA. And then they come back again when needed etc.. Does beg the question that gets asked every few seconds about this film: why!!? Its allot of work eh! I do like the idea that maybe in this you have to sacrifice your life to make new life - maybe artificial life is impossible or against there religion - not good for david :P!

Its continuation and story telling. You can speed up a sequence to progress a narrative. Much like they didn't just go *pop* and appear on the Prometheus beamed up from the Isle of Skye. I'd wager it actually got cut because once you introduce the creation of any other flora/fauna you dilute the main thread of the story that Engineers created man

Yea @MVMNT it's like people can't fill in the blanks it blows my mind. And now that we see pictures of a lizard people act like it's stupid. But umm if you believe in ANY of the theories at all, even religious, like really think about all of them, do thy not all sound crazy? But the actual idea of a UFO dropping of a tall albino man with huge muscles isn't stupid? How about if it was just some regular looking dude like you and me? Then everybody would be like, "well that was stupid, I thought he would look much cooler." "Ridley Scott isn't very creative." And then if they showed a montage of the Engineer dying and then a little tadpole swimming, having sex with a fish, and then a dolphin, and then the dolphin walking on land, and then having sex with a monkey, and then the monkey evolves into man, people would hate on that also. And people complain about not showing an Xenomorph? If they showed that, then people would say, "oh man why couldn't he create something different? The Xenomorph concept is getting so old." I think the morale of the story is you gotta have some balls to make a movie and put it out there, because people are just going to bash what you do no matter what. So he made this movie, for you to either like, or not like. If he put every single persons ideas of what the perfect movie would be, then it would be the craziest mashed up not to mention longest running movie in history so just either enjoy it how it is, or don't!!!!!!

LOL 2 people that think that sequence wasn't real time - funny guys - no wonder you like this film so much - you don't have grip on our reality let alone the films ! No point in answering any more of that stuff I can see! ROFL

Hold on... let me just check that I have this 'right'. - The Engineers' sacrificed bodies seeded life, - Life evolved normally (in the Darwinian manner) from that, - The Engineers came back millions of years [b]later[/b] and interbred with the primitive humans. It's the only way that I can square them 'seeding' basic primitive life with: Shaw saying that the engineer's DNA is the same as ours.

@Crabfart The point I was making was nothing to do with time? The point I was making is that just because an Engineer may have been at the root of a process that caused a reptile with plants all around it to come into being, it would not necessarily follow that an Engineer, "turned into a reptile with plants all around it", simply because you saw a picture of a Salamander? With that, when you state that possible outcome as a definite conclusion, the statement is quite mistaken.

@Crabfart, the only person I see getting it wrong and missing the point is you. It's a shame it didnt' show as far as the dinosaurs, otherwise I could have posted a lovely LOLASAURUS REX for you

@ allinnamberclad - the sequence clearly doesn't show any plant rapidly growing / forming from the DNA all it shows it the salamander. I am saying yes they might of come before to do the plants etc. but this was another alteration point. But then this leaves open the question: if they came billions or even 100s of millions of years ago and looked like that and are an intelligent race why haven't they evolved much (maybe apart from the space suits of the film engineers). Just look how much we have changed in just a few years - imagine if we had bio engineering at our disposal - how much faster it would be. So it was this that made me think its worse (before I thought ok maybe 100000 years or a bit more). They should be something completely different by now! You clearly see the salamander white and not fully formed so this is definitely from the DNA and in real time - it wasn't some other life form before a salamander etc. etc.. This is also basically the same sequence following on from what you see in the film - so taking an 8 celled dividing life form and then it ending up reversing backwards into a plant seems a little strange don't you think - if you were thinking that! If your still thinking it was a representative sequence of billions of years kind of thing like MVNT - seriously think about it! Its pretty certain that that stuff he drank was black goo yes? Then we see him break down fast in real time we can agree on that yea? We see how fast teh black goo works in the film - within minutes things happen to people - squid babies form etc. etc. . And so obviously that engineer drank the good and within minutes he was a salamanda ! That much is 10000000 % certain - I realised that some people might be kids posting on the forum so I am trying not to be so harsh as before :P ...

@Crabfart Oh dear. Again, I think you have missed the actual point? You do seem to have become a little fixated on a picture of a Salamander and, on top of it, seem to have developed a habit of forming questionable conclusions - including one that is based a picture of a Salamander: a Salamander that, it's worth stating, did not appear in the film? What [i]is[/i] indicated in the film, is that, "the Engineers lie at the root of Life". That is the premise and purpose of the message that is being communicated. It is not the premise and purpose of the message to communicate that Engineers necessarily devolved, directly and specifically, into Salamanders? To prevent people making that direct and over-simplified interpretation could well be why a Salamander wasn't depicted... Again this is nothing to with Time, because Time is nothing to do with it. The point being made is very simple - and it is this: just because an Engineer may have been at the root of a process that caused a reptile with plants all around it to come into being, it would not necessarily follow that an Engineer, "turned into a reptile with plants all around it", simply because you saw a picture of a Salamander. With that, when you state that possible outcome as a definite conclusion, the statement is mistaken. The fact that the Salamander was not used only undermines that conclusion, it doesn't support it. Everything to do with the Salamander you have simply made up - that has some entertainment/comedy value, but it does not, necessarily, have any bearing on the premise and purpose of the scene as filmed, and the premised and purpose which we are given to understand the scene was to communicate - which was that, "the Engineers lie at the root of Life" - not, necessarily, that Engineers devolved, directly, into Salamanders? On these other matters: humans have [i]not[/i] changed, from an evolutionary perspective in, "just a few years"?..... I can't continue.

@allinnumberclad siiigh : I made up that the salamanda was white and not fully formed before being fully formed :O - do you have eyes? Yer wow I am making assumptions based on a real story board from prometheus which clearly shows us tons of info LOL! I managed to find the rest of the sequence and yes like I said it is part of the one we saw in the film: [url=http://vyle-art.com/portfolio/prometheus/#!prettyPhoto]see here near bottom[/url] Oh lookie there I was right all along. Ill let you kiss my feet later. Evolution speeds up with intelligence and even if it didn't how different would you think the engineer race would look after billions or 100s of millions of years? Common this is all 1 + 1 = 2 stuff its not that hard!

this scene was obviously going to be an example of time lapse photography, showing that over a long period of time the building blocks of life left behind by the Sacrificial Engineer led to the formation of life on earth and its subsequent evolution.

:O I am shocked Snorkel - you too! - so do you think that sequence was time lapsed in the film then?! Because its part of the same sequence in the story boards :OOOO ! Even if it were why would it stop at salamanda and why are the plants not changing throughout the scene LOL ! Eeeek! There is no indication of time passing anything other than real time! Also I am pretty sure there was moss on the bank behind the engineer when he holds his hand up in the film - and theres him breathing the air - but I know he might be able to breath toxic air - but seems unlikely. Plus there was moss in the deleted scenes so this scene is deffo after life started : [img]http://www.thetokyoblonde.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/elder_engineers_prometheus2.jpg[/img] 1+1 anyone?

And even if it were time laps it still begs the question why have they barely changed in billions of years - kinda weird...yes I know you will say because they are clones (maybe of one god like leader) and maybe we are needed for diversity etc. etc. but it still seems unlikely. I suppose again I will have to wait for more info...

@Crabfart Quite unsurprisingly, you seem to have missed the point - I actually hope, now, that this is deliberate. I have a view that what is important about assumptions, is whether, or not, they are soundly supported. I am concerned that you continue to maintain what seems a very, very peculiar fixation on a Salamander?.......This is your pleasure, but that does not, necessarily, mean that the Salamander is anything to do with anything? The Salamander was [i]not,[/i] "part of the sequence". This Storyboard image of your Salamander may well relate to the design of a sequence that did end up in the film - but your Salamander was [i]not[/i] in that film. What's important is why. The reason for an omission of that kind is not always some kind of Easter Egg that adds to the story. The reason for an omission of that kind is sometimes because it confuses the story. Whether your Salamander was, at one time, related to the design of that sequence is immaterial. The message we are given to understand it was the actual premise, purpose and intention of that sequence to communicate, is that, "Engineer lie at the root of Life" - not, necessarily, that, "Engineers devolve into Salamanders"? With that - if you are able to acknowledge and accept that premise, purpose and intention - it seems, to me, that it starts to become clear why your Salamander would not have been used: it has potential to confuse the interpretation of the sequence as an oversimplified, "Engineers devolve into Salamanders" - as opposed to a slightly more significant and important, "Engineers are at the root of Life" - which was the actual premise, purpose and intention of that scene, and, as a result, confuse the story. That aside, evolution does [i]not,[/i] "speed up with intelligence"? I'm sorry to have to tell you that this could well be nonsense.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N7UjAsBe90&feature=related]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N7UjAsBe90&feature=related[/url] /done

:O did you read my post? Obviously its all way above your head! You seemed to have missed allot of it! Ill skip past the nonsense to the part you say: "That aside, evolution does not, "speed up with intelligence"? I'm sorry to have to tell you that this could well be nonsense." Ill make it simple for you: Which one is faster: single celled organism to multi cell : 1500 million years. Humans altering the DNA of a baby thus making a evolutionary change - well you can guess it might just be a bit faster - just maybe.

@Crabfart I must say, you do seem a quite unusual type of character?... Thank you for your attempt to simplify everything: very thoughtful. The only thing of it is, this business of, "Humans altering the DNA of a baby thus making a evolutionary change"? Well, that may well be, "faster" - but it would be nothing, [i]at all,[/i] to do with, "Evolution"? That would be to do with, "Genetic Engineering" - and would actually be something of the antithesis to, "Evolution"?.. I just do not know what to say to you. If you must insist that, in your mind, Engineers turn directly into Salamanders, I suppose, so be it... I wish you every happiness in this belief.

I think I am getting the picture - English not your first language maybe? Leap frog thinking not in your arsenal? And I cant be bothered to explain it even more simply for you sorry...read the posts again if your lost and try thinking...

The storyboards are an attempt to visualize, in a time lapse photography style, the process of the evolution of life instigates by the Engineers sacrifice, culminating in the depiction of an "amphibian" evolving from a lung/lobefish and stepping out land. The reasons the plants in the storyboard don't change is because its a storyboard. The reason there is moss in the background of the shots taken with the Engineers is because there was present on location when they shot and rather than attempt to delete it digitally (which would be expensive), they left it there because they deleted the footage and thus there was no need and so over analyzing fans would nit-pick over it.

Hmmm ok I can see Im not getting through maybe one day we will get some more evidence and I can go 'TOLD U SO' . @Snorkelbottom Its deffo real time in the film and in these story boards - there is no sign of any of the many steps in evolution inbetween the first life form and what we see there (see the other story boards on the site). The picture is even called salamando salamandas were not the first amphibians to walk on land - not by a long shot the white look lobe fish you talk about looks nothing like that its scaly for one and has fins not feet!: [img]http://universe-review.ca/I10-72-Eusthenopteron.jpg[/img] and it IS the same sequence if you look at the website it shows more all we see is engineer to DNA DNA to dividing cells (which are billions of years in advance of the single cells of the first life forms). I can delete the moss from a scene like that in a few minutes - it cost virtually nothing - I work with compositing software. I fear this film was a bit scrappy so maybe it was a mistake but we'll see. Like I said before there was moss in the actual film but there isnt a hi rez shot online to post.