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$300 million worldwide

Monk

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Looks like Prometheus is just shy of $300 million worldwide: [url=http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012]Link[/url] Also looks like this is the last week it's in theaters (in my area at least). May have to go see the last showing on Thursday night.
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Thanks Monk for the update.
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Indy John
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That's about $100 Million from site members ALONE..
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Sounds like a sequel to me!
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and it's not even been released in Japan yet -- they gonna eat that English pie right down to the [i]alluminum[/i] -- just like they did with Avatar.
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it's yet to be released in germany even...
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$300 mill still isn't really that much. As most know the budget was supposedly somewhere between $130 and $150 mill. Not sure how much they spent on marketing but to put it in perspective, on a documantary about Kevin Smith's film Red State he talks about Lionsgate and how they pretty much have a rule that any film they release theatrically has a marketing budget of $20 million. I think it cost Smith something like $2 mill to make the film so he saw this as a problem and decided to distribute it himself. Anyway, if Lionsgate throws down $20 million for any of their crap, run-of-the-mill films then I would have to say that Fox definitely put at least $150 million into this very fresh, original and definitely viral marketing campaign. You have to remember they actually shot footage just for marketing such as the David 8, TED and rest of the viral vids. These videos cost $$$. They have writers, directors, art departments, crews and pretty much everything a feature has but on a smaller scale. Then you have all the regular TV and radio spots and whatnot that obviously cost a lot of money. Basically, as of now I'd say if the film has broke even it isn't over even by much. Yes, there's still other markets to open, dvd and pay-per-view and other things like merch that the film will make money on but I know that Fox does not by any means consider this film a home run. I'm sure everyone knows the difference between gross and net so I wont explain that. Just food for thought.
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Also, in case anyone is interested I started a thread about a full financial breakdown and professional prediction of what Prometheus could make off the rest of sales as well as how much a sequel might make. [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/9184]Here's the thread.[/url] If you'd be interested in something like it describes please let me know in the thread.
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Yer its scary how much money awful films make like pirates of the carabean :S ...
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I really couldn't care less about box office. Most of my fave movies weren't box office hits at all.
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@David 1— But you better care about it in [u]this case[/u] if you ever want to go to [i]Paradise[/i]. If Prometheus does not haul in enough $$$, FOX will be removing that destination from the tour. :( @alia— I expect that they still have a "wait and see" attitude about it. There is something odd about its not playing in Mainland China yet either. The government may have blocked it due to all of the problems Avatar caused for them; even if the decision is not rational. You'd think they'd LOVE it since Weyland is such a nasty capitalist. I expect that after Japan and Germany and the other straggling countries that it *may* get up to $350 in box office, but that's still not an AUTOMATIC green light by any means... We'll also have to see how 10-11-12 (whatever that is) factors in. But, no reason to dress in black and cover the mirrors, yet... [quote=Indy John][i]That's about $100 Million from site members ALONE.[/i][/quote] At LEAST! ;)
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The highest figure that's been reliably and repeatedly floated for the film's production budget is $130 million. The UK gave the film $5 million in tax grants. As far as the promotional budget, here's the best and most reliable info that I've read to date on the matter. [url=http://www.mediamarketjournal.com/2012/06/prometheus-price-tag/]http://www.mediamarketjournal.com/2012/06/prometheus-price-tag/[/url] "Marketing costs behind Prometheus remain a mystery at this time. It is widely assumed that the budget for promotion came in well under the blockbuster norm of $80+ million simply because so much of the movie’s advertisements hinged on viral internet shorts. Even though $80 million is theoretically possible for this movie, it is highly doubtful that Fox went beyond that figure thanks to Prometheus’ built in fan base." The above info is both from a reliable, non-fanbase/fanboy source and good news for those of us who want to see "Prometheus" part 2. $120M + $80M = $200M $299M - $200M = $99M in profits (and counting) The film has yet to open in Spain, Germany, Japan and 4 other smaller countries. At this point $325M in ticket sales is easily attainable.
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Guys, that's not how profit is determined. Let's say $60MM is a low number for marketing. $130MM production + $60MM = $190MM budget So it made about $125MM domestically. This does not ALL go to the movie makers. You're forgetting one huge equation: the theater. Now, it's true opening weekend the theater makes very little (20-30% of gross). That number gets higher and higher as the run goes on. That's domestically. Foreign, the theaters/distribution takes a bigger cut and the studio gets less. So let's say an EXTREMELY generous number is 50% of ticket gross on average So let's say it totals $320MM worldwide. Those small countries are NOT going to bring in huge numbers. $320MM * .50 = $160MM $190MM-$160MM=-$30MM Not good. They can only hope to regain the rest of that money on DVD/BluRay and broadcast licensing. If a sequel is made, there's going to have to be some compromises. Anything from a small budget, different writer, PG13 rating, or even a new director (with Ridley producing). We shall see. I personally REALLY hope there's another one, but from finances alone it's not looking good. Although Ridley does have a lot of pull in Hollywood.
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Any way im watching it at cinema for last time this thursday night
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@Stylo...Exactly. In my post I stated that I thought most knew the difference between "net" and "gross" but it seems that either some don't or some simply want to ignore the difference because it makes them feel better.
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My god men in black 3 is above prometheus now in weekly takings and its been out longer...hmm actually thinking about it it was more fun to watch as a bit of fun :P ! But I do prefer serious films like promtheus :S ...
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[u]Engineering[/u]: FYI, just to be clear this post is friendly in intent and was written without snark or animosity. In your last post in this thread you wrote: "Exactly. In my post I stated that I thought most knew the difference between "net" and "gross" but it seems that either some don't or some simply want to ignore the difference because it makes them feel better." I am never one to shy from owning up to a misstep/mistake on my part. When I wrote my most recent post in this thread my intent was to respond very specifically to something you wrote in an earlier post of yours in this thread. In said post you wrote: "Anyway, if Lionsgate throws down $20 million for any of their crap, run-of-the-mill films then I would have to say that Fox definitely put at least $150 million into this very fresh, original and definitely viral marketing campaign." During my time on this board I've seen various numbers thrown around with ease regarding the promotional budget for "Prometheus" and none of those numbers/posts seemed to be grounded in anything but the poster's casual relationship with the costs of marketing the theatrical release of a major motion picture. Thus, when in your earlier post you put made a remark about the promotional budget for "Prometheus" being in excess of $150M I wanted to look for some hard info regarding the actual costs of the promotional budget for the film. What I found was the article in Media Market Journal about the film, an article that I linked in my earlier post. Perhaps if I had not been about to run out the door when I made said post I would have had the common sense to either end my post with the above mentioned link or gone on to simply state that the info that I posted from MMJ suggests a different picture than the one you had painted regarding how the film's marketing costs will impact the film's earnings. So, back to the part where I fess up when I make a mistake. In his most recent post [u]stylo[/u] painted a more accurate picture than I did regarding the intricacies of how and why the film will make or not make a profit. In regards to the economics involved in whether or not the film will make a profit [u]stylo[/u]'s info/post is more accurate than my info/post. Thus, in that regards I did not in my earlier post in this thread pay proper mind to "the difference between "net" and "gross". However, it was an honest mistake and I did not do it because I don't know the difference between "net" and gross" or because I "want to ignore the difference because it makes (me) feel better." Being that I've fessed up to my honest mistake it would be nice if you'd acknowledge the fact that the article in MMJ suggests that your estimation of the film's promotional budget being north of $150M is most likely not accurate. Sincerely, have a good day!
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Now, over $300 million: [url=http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012]Link[/url] and $124.8 million domestically...not too shabby.
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I do wonder if there is threshold amount that Fox needs to OK another installment...of this story. If they do do it soon! I checked IMBD to see what the actors and RS have on their pllate for the next few years. Ridley had the most ambitous plans / projects(sevaral as Producer) with the other actors seemingly well booked for the next two years.. The best situation is know that part 2 has mostly been shot with just some final touches for a release.within a year.(I have not come across any article hinting that this is the case.) The worst is to get an OK this Summer..and begin prep for filming in the next year or so. But how does the old cast(what is left..or suspected) learn their roles and work it in to their committed schedule.. So in my mind no news,will put the Prometheus franchise in grave danger..and if a suitible follow up can't be made for the big screen..then I would prefet to leave everything as it is including all dangling threads,,plot holes and memories... of a movie that has caught the imagination of site members.
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[u]Monk[/u]: I found something interesting in the recent daily numbers for "Prometheus". The domestic box office for Tuesday July 17 was $149,381, which was a 17.9% increase over the previous days take. I can't help but think that that increase was due to a lot of people who'd already seen the film wanted to see it again before "TDKR" was released and "Prometheus" was no longer being shown in their area in either certain formats (e.g. IMAX ) or at all. I almost went to see the film again in IMAX a couple of days ago. I plan to go see it in 3D this coming week. Unfortunately, the film's no longer on an IMAX screen here in NYC.
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A quick check of the Indianapolis,USA area theaters showing 'Prometheus' reveals ..that there are 11 showings this week at 3 theaters... THat doesn't seem too bad for movie released 5 or so weeks ago. Still it not a mega Box office hit,,,and might cause Fox to think about the sequels..and put them on hold. Of course if real fans would pack their local theaters...one more time..before the DVD hits the market..that might help ensure additional episodes.... But it's not my money at risk...
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