A Second Viewing: The Sacrifice of a Masterpiece

@ZZplural [quote]What are you suggesting? That Vickers should have done her pep talk while they were puking up on the edge of their cryo tubes?[/quote] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you get lecture from your superior about company before the interview or on your field trip's day 1? It's like you are not even introduced to your roommates in dorm room after you wake up and brush the teeth but when some rector asks you to talk. Very poor arrangement. Hope you get the point. Look at AVP, they placed the scene in correct order. You don't take people directly onto the ship without telling them about mission or keeping them with each other before boarding onto ship. Not even national emergency missions work like that. That's fatal error. Crew members are notified and introduced to each other before they are taken to field. @Freeplanet [quote]the 'bringing them together' on site like that, without anyone seeming to know what side they're shooting for, is a classic intelligence or covert operation.[/quote] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I don't think so. Not even military operations work like that. Announcing prometheus mission to investors and declaring the formal agenda on website and then acting as if it's covert operation doesn't make any sense.

Sky, of course you're right if Weyland ANNOUNCED the Prometheus Project as a VOYAGE TO MEET OUR MAKERS. Is that the timeline?

Last night I went to see "Prometheus" for the sixth time. The art design and cinematography are stunning. For the most part the pacing is just fine. The third quarter of the film certainly has some issues and then it picks back up in the fourth quarter. Fassbender is brilliant. While Rapace's performance is not as stellar as that of Fassbender she commits herself to the role. I don't care what the haters say: I friggin' love Sean Harris' performance as Fifield. Was the film perfect? Hell no but this is the best big budget sci-fi movie that has been made in years. I'm fine with the unanswered mysteries and riddles in the film and I would LOVE to see where it is that Shaw and David go in the next film. I'll say this: last night was the first time that I saw the film in 2D and I was impressed with how well the film visually holds up in 2D. That is absolutely not the case with "Avatar" and to me that fact only further supports Scott's decision to rely more heavily on physical sets and scenery than on CGI. I do wish that this film had been closer to perfect but the parts of it that Scott got right are almost seamless in their content and execution and for that helps to offset the issues contained in the third quarter of the film. There is so much to appreciate and respect about this film. I'm less frustrated by the film's flaws than I am by the knitpicking critiques that some give the film. "Prometheus" has built upon the "Alien" films that came before it, added new substance to the universe those films inhabit and presented new pathways for future 'Alien" related films to travel. I truly hope that Scott is at the helm of the next film in the franchise. He was my biggest concern going into my first viewing of "Prometheus" and after 6 viewings of the film I'm geeked out at the idea that Scott will direct the next "Alien" related film.

@freeplanet [quote]Sky, of course you're right if Weyland ANNOUNCED the Prometheus Project as a VOYAGE TO MEET OUR MAKERS.Is that the timeline?[/quote] Do you think any ship with name prometheus takes off from earth and other government and business people are not noticing it? Weyland investors not knowing about it? We are talking about spaceship here, not subway train. Ofcourse people around the world will know about it. This is no covert operation picnic. lol

I totally agree Patch.

Honestly, I only saw parts of the first AVP movie, and the only thing that scared me to death was the realization that they're turning the franchise into a bullshit for fucktards. no offense, just being honest. There are are almost subtle visual and sonic elements of Ridley that really make it freaky. Unfortunate that it only comes through to a fraction of fans.

A recut of this film with certain gratuitous zombie action in the garage removed and all of the deleted stuff (or at least MOST of it) added back in could make this a MUCH MUCH better film. Pray for [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/9011]THE RESTORATION[/url] and that it will be released again on large screens and not just on DVD/Blu-Ray.

@Sukkal, not convinced ANY 'restoration' cut is to be released. Only Extras or Menu items on Home format. @Sky, of course a COVERT OPERATION (which I still believe this was) such as PROMETHEUS wouldn't begin with all the publicity, pomp and circumstance of an Earth-based launch. Weyland has off-world colonies at this point, right? Orbiting space factories, right?

I feel this mission was not so much a covert operations, but a private venture.

I have to agree that both the pacing and character development held the movie back a bit from what it could've been. The Charlie character was just all wrong. Came across as a cocky and simplistic jerk. And with the exception of Shaw and David (and Weyland), none of the characters act as if there's anything particularly important at stake in 'finding their creators'. That's a major storytelling problem. The film can't expect the audience to embrace the importance of its premise and the unfolding of that premise if its own characters are so cavalier about what's at stake. The theatrical film would've been enhanced if it had incorporated the 2023 TED talk right after the sacrificial opening scene. It would've helped fill out Weyland's character and given far more depth to the importance and motives of the mission (either good or ill) than relying on too many half baked characters who don't give the audience any reason for caring about them or their mission. To be clear, on balance, I liked the film. It asked some good questions, effectively showed how questions of origin exercise great power over what we do and how we live today, and left a variety of tantalizaing and plausible lines of thought that could be pursued in upcoming films. But sometimes, a film that could've been great but was just good is more frustrating than a bad flick that never had a chance to be any different.

Looks like my reply was deleted.... Why Mods? a explanation would be fine.... Ok here goes again in a nutshell for what i remember what i put... When i saw one of the featurete it showed Fords head being CGI'ed also in some of the trailers she seemed to be having a fit and looked as though she was not scared but something else. I can only assume that what happened to her was more than being pushed by the Engineer, but it had to b cut and a alternative death scene added to allow movie to pass for under 18s. As far as scary, well sorry but Scary Movie series was as Scary to me.... not many movies scare me if any.... only one movie makes me feel uncomfortable and thats the original The Thing by John Carpenter