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I don't know why some people hate this movie so much sometimes

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MemberOvomorphAugust 19, 20123428 Views47 Replies
I honestly think 80% of the hate comes from the fact damon lindelof's name is attached to the movie. You know because its a popular thing to hate damon lindelof these days. If the studio didn't reveal damon lindelof as the scriptwriter, i bet there would be lot less criticism for the writing. I never watched Lost so I had no idea who this damon lindelof guy was before Prometheus. I thought the writing was fantastic, and the way he left things ambiguous and mysterious was great. It's a perfect way to setup a sequel. Then theres plotholes, what exactly are the plotholes they're complaining about? They say "this movie has lots of plotholes", and don't even bother to list them... and the complaints about every characters' idiotic behaviours. I feel like this complaint is incredibly exaggerated by everybody who hates this movie. The only scene that shows slightly odd behaviour was the pipfield/milburn death scene. And even then, their behaviors can be explained because they were getting high before the cobralien popped up so they were more curious than frightened by it. That was it, the rest of the movie doesn't show any characters doing things out of context. and then theres the stupid criticism "It didn't answer any of the questions raised in the movie" These are the same people who praised Alien even though it didn't even explain what or who were the space jockey were. It took 30 years for Ridely Scott to answer that, and between that period, I don't see anyone criticizing Ridely Scott for not explaining the space jockey origin.
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I loved it and I still have a folder full of trailers and tv spots and every interview of Ridley, Lindelof, Rapace, Fassbender and several with Theron and also a couple of featurettes...animated gifs and tuns of movie stills....I collected every ounch of info i could find and i watched and read everybit over and over.....still in the end I came out of the theater with a big fat smile on my face....and i am currently counting down the dvd release with as much anticipation as I did for it's theatrical release and everytime their is the slightest mention of the upcoming sequel my little hearth skips a beat....so absolute zero complaints here!
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@keep it real I dont believe that you didnt see all the respective threads about it. use the search function. must be one hundred at least. cheers
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Yer I too think it was Damon AND Ridley in the driving seat and mainly Ridley - my reasons - look at ridleys other movies recently and damon did also say Ridley was feeding him everything for the script before the movie came out! I think allot of the people have listed the problems with prometheus so many times now that they are tired of it - this is why they don't always post a half mile long piece of text every time! Sorry keeping it real but this has been covered a million times over! Also try google. Ill add my vote to prometheus being great but awful - strangest film ever - utterly amateur scenes mixed in with grand master scenes the haters picking up on the amateur ones of course! Allot of people were actually like me too - they knew it wasnt going to have much of a link to aliens - we just wanted it all to make sense. And I am not talking about answering what the black goo is or what the engis are doing etc. I am talking about the characters doing totally bonkers out of character things etc...anyway I got work to do byeee......ps AVP is awful!

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@djamelameziane right, people are tired of writing about it all over again and its not necessary. The were reviews about it, right after the first evening screening ( in france )
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Things will look very different when it's seen in the grander context of its sequel(s). Me? I'm [i]really[/i] glad it left the door wide open.
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Yes heres hoping...but it may actually be worse - pleassse no!

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Plenty of things were out of place. 1) Pace, they were in some sort of rush with this movie. It was way too fast. Look at old alien it moves very slow upto the point where crew members are going to explore the broken space ship. Prometheus has very fast pace as if there is taxman chasing every person in it. 2) Crappy acting, I mean it. I can't believe except fassbender, rest of the others had too little airtime and punchlines in this movie. It looks good in trailer and bad in movie. 3) Lacks dark feel. Hell, AVP despite non canon, has that dark feel. You get the feeling that they are being chased by aliens and predators at the same time. What do you have in prometheus ? nothing. what fear factor you have in prometheus? nothing. 4) black liquid. concept of black liquid was so wrong that they failed to even put some mystery around that one. 5) prologue takes the mystery off the movie. Panspermia revealed at the start of the movie, so you get 90 percent of answer in the movie, remaining 10 percent answer is when there was DNA match with engineer head. 6) David knows everything. I mean seriously, robots can be talents but knowing everything? doesn't even fit with weyland yutani coverup stuff. It sounds like CIA or FBI ops in android mode. Clicking everything turned me off. 7) What answer have we got? nothing. Other than the fact that space jockeys are human ancestors doing some biological games in galaxies. Space jockey in Alien was mystical inside the suit. It was supposed to be some dark concept but it turned out to be some Rael concept of aliens on earth. 8) Engineers planet? the thrill for engineers planet was so off putting, it doesn't even attract me towards paradise. What are we going to see in paradise? Trust me it will not be dark, but more visual treat with nothing to chew. 9) With all due respect to RS films in past. This movie other than few visual beats doesn't even beats any other blockbuster this year. Hell, some of the other movies lime - the troll hunter were more dark than prometheus. Personally I got turned off with the franchise, I don't even think anything will ever come out in darker feel from them anymore. I am gonna enjoy AVP and Micheal bay from here on. No offense to those who enjoyed. Thanks to chris, this is now Scifi network and not just prometheus site anymore, I can safely rant :D [img]https://diasp.de/uploads/images/scaled_full_57c1e865740b17fe9750.jpg[/img]
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^^^^^^ what Shambs, Kane and Sky said ^^^^^^^
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[i]I honestly think 80% of the hate comes from the fact damon lindelof's name is attached to the movie.[/i] I guess I'm of the 20%. I've never seen an episode of "Lost" and if I had seen anything written by Lindelof (besides [i]Prometheus[/i], of course), I'm not aware of it.
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I think the film was meant to be frustrating, like all the gaps and left open spots in the film. I think they will be explained in the sequel.
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Wait until the dvd is released. Why was all the extra material shot in the first place ? That is a huge amount of extra footage shot by the most efficient director ever. The extra material will make people want to see the film with the extra material included and then eventually an extended cut will be made. Then people won't hate it anymore. This is an opinion. On something yet to happen. It s called faith. Or maybe: Let me see: fox or brandywine or who ever spends 130 million us dollars to make a movie that is off pace that is too short with not enough character development with holes (not plot holes necessarily.), they then spend a further 50 million us dollars on marketing. Sounds deliberately made the way it was so that you must buy the dvd with all the extra material. Ah damn why wasn't this included, would have been such a beautiful movie if some of the extended / additional scenes were added. And eventually when the extended cut is releaed (after 10 years?) then people will say: I love this. It would make no sense. Long live prometheus (I love it) This just an opinion (humble or otherwise) no factual basis.
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The more i see the movie the more i like it.... At first it was a disappointment because well the bar was raised high by Alien and Blade Runner and also the movie was over hyped, Ridley and Co played with us with the Trailers, the comments that changed and confused us. Other things like the movie will scare the S$"£ out of you etc. Once the disappointment dust had settled i then could work out a few factors that let the movie down. Some scenes made no sense.... they seemed to me like someone had just came along and with some scissors just started cutting chunks of the Movie Reel out. Now we realize that there was a fair share of edited and cut scenes and alternative ones. That once added back in make the movie flow better. But i understand reasons for them being cut out. [b]Elder Engineers[/b]....... Because Ridley wanted to retain the Mystery of them for potentially Prometheus 2. [b]Engineer Conversation with David[/b]...... because it would have gave some answers to our creation and planned destruction or maybe because Ridley felt it took some of the allure and mystery away from the Engineer. I think once we see the full scene and have subs for it, then the scene would make sense as opposed to the knee jerk violent reaction he had taken when at first he looked intrigued [b]Alternative Fifield[/b]........ Due to Ridley wanting to limit the Xeno DNA elements until the Shaws Baby and its Life Cycle. [b]The Shaw vs Engineer Scene[/b]........ Because he felt as Shaw puts up a good fight, when the Engineer disposed of the other crew with ease, made the Engineer not look as powerful as intended. Then we have alternative and cuts scenes that reduce the level of Gore and Violence to get the movie to be shown to under 18s. These aside the movie still had flaws... I felt some Characters acted out of Character my two biggest ones was... 1) Janek.... he seemed little concerned about the safety of two members of the crew trapped in the Temple Over Night and more interested in flirting with Vickers.... this did not fit in with the Heroic Character we see portrayed with his Sacrifice to Ram Prometheus into the Juggernaut. 2) Vickers..... when she was being flirted with by Janek, i liked her responses until when he asked "Miss Vickers are you a Robot" Her reply did not fit with the Cold Character she portrayed....... She should have said.... "well i am off to my room and you will never find out.... good night". So aside from a few cuts that effected the flow of the movie and some bad use of Characters. The movie was not bad not bad at all, and its a shame Ridley was not allowed to have this movie made as either a 2.5 to 3 hour movie or a two part 1.5 hour or so one. As i felt another 40 min would have allowed the movie to tell its tale to do justice to the scope of the plot. Overall i gave it 3.5/5..... after seeing a uncut version with alternative scenes that may go to a 4/5.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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I agree100 percent with everything you say bigdave. It would make no sense if it was otherwise. Dissapointment=frustration=discussion=controversy=marketing=sales.
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The scope of the movie is massive, and Prometheus 2 and 3 could be epic. I feel Lindlof has great ideas, but i feel he should not have been given as much creative control to put those ideas on paper into a draft.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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You guys can keep telling yourself that. Sooner or later, you'll realize that faith in Prometheus 2 or 3 is misguided and fruitless. I'm only posting here because I'm in the middle of a boring meeting and I wondered what flavor of Kool-aid was going around here.
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Xenotron My friend I respect your opinion. But remember when the final extended cut is released and fans rave about it that I said it will become an all time classic. I depends on whether or not ridley directs p2 and p3 to really seal the deal. (Disclaimer: this just an opinion - humble or otherwise until indicated otherwise - no factual basis)
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personally, i liked the movie. the only negativity i have towards it is the same as a crackhead... i wanted more and was disappointed by the amount i was given ~_^ 1.i felt the hammerpede scene happened too fast and with no explanation. how did it kill? suffocation, ate internal organs, sucked out blood and other fluids? did it lay eggs inside the body? i wanted more info..... perhaps a dissection/analyzing scene like in the original alien. 2. WTF was the space jockie's problem, and what happened to all of his buddies? obviously there was some huge problem that made them run for their lives and killed them off. if it was a creature, where was it? shouldnt it have been hanging around someplace? if it had a short life cycle, its body should be laying around just like the pile of jockey bodies. 3. MORE MUTANT. jeebus.... that is the one thing i was hyped about and dying to see. obviously they made many timeline mutations and we didnt get to see any of them!! we just got what everyone is calling a "caveman" instead of the super cool/creepy mutant form we now see in many pics recently. i felt like i saw 1/3 of a movie. what i saw i loved, but i felt like i must have repeatedly blacked out and missed chunks of the movie. but one small reason i have went dormant a few times on the site is because of all of the bitching about this movie. i stopped going to the facebook site because of that also. on EVERY single update some negative nancy has to say "that movie blew". everyone is entitled to an opinion, but to have the same people saying the same thing in every update and every thread is so damned annoying. btw, if you hate the movie so much why are you still "liked" on facebook and active in the forum just to constantly say the same unimaginative insults? personally when i dont like something i avoid it. recently i have seen movies and tv shows i found very insulting towards women and it pissed me off, so i stopped watching it when i became offended, then gave it the lowest rating possible. if it REALLY pissed me off i left a bad review, and then i put something better on to watch and left it at that. i dont dwell on shows and movies i hate, why bother? it will just make my hair more grey and make my tummy ulcers bigger, no one wins. i leave that as advice to people that absolutely hate this movie with a passion. dont watch it, put on a movie you love instead, enjoy it, feel better and have a great day.
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From what I hear, the extended cut is supposed to have an additional 30 minutes of footage. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the[url=http://youtu.be/g4P2WKa1opY] Space Jesus theory[/url] and that may be why it was cut out. The extended edition also supposedly has the original script by Lindelof, so we'll see. It's different with this movie somehow. I try to leave it alone, but I just keep thinking about it.
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I think that the hate began with the trailers. The expectation was very high and the fake alien fans did want more of the xenomorf. I believe that if the movie didn't had any publicity no trailers and sell the idea of a sci-fi in space finding the origins of human race. The punch of showing the space jockey responsable for the creation of mankind and alien DNA, showing the alien ship and a SJ operating shoudl been too much for the hearts of people. The problem is called internet and trailers, try to take that away and you have people going nuts because of some movie talking about the alien universe and SJ and the origins of alien as a bio weapon.
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Your correct and that was one of my gripes, this movie had a lot of scope and sadly the movie needed at least another 45 min to do the plot some justice. As far as the cuts scenes, well some scenes that was cut and others that showed little of the Hammerpedes are done so as that the movie is not riddled with Xeno DNA. Ridley wanted to make this movie about the Engineers and us rather than about the Xeno. He has left it very open and cleverly done because while he wants to leave the xeno behind he knows depending on the reception and critics the following movies can avoid the Xeno... or if thats what he feels demand is for a money for fox he can explore the Xeno and Deacon in future movies. The Engineer scenes was cut because Ridley wanted to maybe not show so much of them or any dialog as he wants to explore them in Prometheus 2.

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