Star System Fact Check

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MemberOvomorphAugust 20, 20124464 Views37 RepliesThe question has been raised before, "Are lv426 and lv223(233?) in the same system?
I just watched the alien dcut(again) and noticed that Lambert responds to the question of where they are by saying, "Found it, just short of Zeta 2 Reticulli."
Having not seen prometheus for a month and having no way to view it at the moment, is lv-223 in the zeta 2 system for sure?
just curious..
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August 21, 2012
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August 21, 2012
Well, I guess you can all look forward to the blu-ray release, freeze-framing the Prometheus star map and finding out for yourselves that LV-223 is nowhere near Reticulum (Zeta Reticuli) at all, if you know anything about astronomy.
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August 21, 2012
@zzplural. Ridley clearly states, in one of the featurettes, that LV 223 is in the Zeta 2 Reticuli system, so how did you come to that conclusion? Can you give us a Link that shows that it is not in that System?
The poster was good though!
August 21, 2012
@necronom4: Not to argue, but in order for it to be "very probable", there would have to be recorded many instances of systems with more than one ringed planet. Granted, our own system has more than one planet with rings, I'm talking about planets with overly obvious rings, such as Saturn. I'm going to stick with it being possible, but not probable.
As for the planets in the two films being of different colors, a lot of that can be chalked up to good old continuity error. I know you defended this by Ridley Scott being a perfectionist and having a great eye for detail, but he might not have cared that deeply for matching the colors.
Although I'm going along with what Ghost had said, it's still strange that, save for color, LV-223 and LV-426 circle similar planets in different systems with roughly the same amount of moons circling as well.
August 21, 2012
@Herc. Ok, i see what you mean. But the Ringed Planet in Alien as 3 moons? Or is it more? (I must watch it again!) The ringed Planet in Prometheus as Two Moons. So do you think that is a continuity error? I'm just askin.
The poster was good though!
August 21, 2012
Necronom 4, the star map shown by Holloway and Shaw to the crew of the Prometheus clearly shows the Engineer's system as being approximately north west of the constellation of Orion. Reticulum (where Zeta Reticuli is) is a southern constellation almost as far as you can get from Orion. Whatever Ridley said, LV-223 is not anywhere near Zeta Reticuli.
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August 21, 2012
Er N4, the only ascertainable features of the planet in Alien 3 is that it has two suns and is in a completely different system to that in Alien and Aliens and Prometheus, methinks your getting your films mixed up the gas giant in Alien/Aliens Galampos or something like that has three moons, one of which is Acheron LV-426, the gas giant in Prometheus was only shown to have two moons, one being LV-223
August 21, 2012
@zzplural. Science Fiction doesn't always fit in with reality or known facts. Since it's a Film i think we have to take Ridleys comments onboard.
The poster was good though!
August 21, 2012
@Snorks. That's what i said in my Comment. That the Ringed planet in Alien as three moons and the Ringed planet in Prometheus as two. I didn't say anything about Alien 3!
The poster was good though!
August 21, 2012
@Snorks lol. No probs. I'm just wondering if the whole thing is infact a cotinuity error now? I just find it hard to believe that Ridley would make a mistake regarding something that is important to the whole Series!
The poster was good though!
August 21, 2012
I thought that the ringed planet in [i]Alien[/i] and [i]Prometheus[/i] were one and the same. They both seem to have the same amount of moons (three):
[i]Alien[/i]
[img]http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/2872/306530-nostromo_lv426.jpg[/img]
[i]Prometheus[/i]:
[img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120613110839/avp/images/thumb/2/24/LV-223.png/1000px-LV-223.png[/img]
I just figured that shortly after takeoff from LV-223, the soon-to-be derelict had encountered trouble and crashed on the next celestial body over.
I was also questioning the naming of the moons. I don't know what the "LV" prefix means, but I figure that it might be unique to that system only. If there were other planets in that star system, maybe their moons might have a different designation, such as "MG" or "JH" and so on.
Another thing that I've pondered is how LV-426 was named "Acheron" and in some places LV-223 was named "Zeus". Obviously, these both come from Greek mythology. Now, back in our own solar system, when moons are named, they are named in mythological clusters. For example, the moons of Saturn were named in packs of gods from such groupings as Inuit, Gallic, Norse and so on.
The moons of Uranus (stop giggling) were named after characters from Shakespeare.
Here's an interesting article:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_of_natural_satellites[/url]
August 21, 2012
I prefer to let a film stand for itself rather than what people say about it. If there are three people standing in a scene and the director says there are two... well, I'll just ignore the director.
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August 21, 2012
@Hercules:
Your second photo shows a star and two moons, not three moons (check out the shadow on the ring and where the light comes from). That in itself isn't a disproof that it's not the same system as that of LV-426, however.
I wouldn't read too much into the fact that we see a couple of ringed planets. Our own solar system has at least three ringed planets, though Saturn is the most prominent. Ring systems are probably extremely common in the universe.
The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent
August 21, 2012
I've already covered how many ringed planets are in our system and figured there were more elsewhere. Thanks for the redux anyway.
I guess the cloudy object to the left could be a star. I take back my earlier statement, if I can, without any grandstanding from a certain participant.
August 29, 2012
Dont forget Zeta Reticuli system, is a binary star system and contains Zeta 1 Reticuli and Zeta 2.
Ridley said that the Derelict on LV 426 had left LV 233 but never traveled far, so that could mean the same system but maybe not the same planet.
But then in the scale of inter stellar travel maybe not far could be further than a few planets.
So i think LV 2** and LV4** could either be designations for planets.. so imagine say Saturns moons called LV 6** and Jupiters LV 5**
Or the LV 2/4 could mean different systems so Zeta 1 LV 2** and Zeta 2 LV4**
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