edwardinthefuture
MemberOvomorphSep-25-2012 12:25 PMIndy John
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MemberOvomorphFeb-12-2013 1:49 PMHades Infernal
MemberOvomorphFeb-12-2013 3:04 PMBeware the bearers of false gifts & their broken promises Much pain but still time There is good out there We oppose deception Conduit closing
Anunnaki50
MemberOvomorphFeb-18-2013 1:53 AMThe Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno
Spastic Clown
MemberOvomorphOct-17-2013 12:49 AMTechDrone
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MemberPraetorianOct-18-2013 3:07 PM"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
WhatThaEff
MemberOvomorphJan-14-2014 3:26 PMFirst off when the head of the Engineer explodes on the ship its blood is green, you can also see it splatter off when he gets shot at the end. Predators have green blood and so do xenos. Secondly that decapitated Engineer was not infected until he was decapitated. The head fell into that "Tomb room" and became infected then. OR It was infected and by decapitating the host the goo becomes inert. But the other Engineers ran into that room WHY? What was chasing them? Two look back i think and then one collapses. Why would they take refuge in a room with that goo?? Hope this sequel doesnt turn out to be TMNT2 SECRET OF THE OOZE... :P Anyway...it could also be that the Deacon was not recorded. But the other Engineers are found with thier chest burst open in another area. Now...where is the giant facehugger thing to impregnate them? what happened to xenos? deacons? where are my pants??
Ridely did not like the AvP movies but I never heard him speak ill of the Preadtor movies..Is he trying to bridge gaps? Fix the canon? Probably not but Prometheus is going in a slighlty different direction. Theres a universe with us, Engineers and Xenos. And he is exploring the Engineer part now.
The only thing that puzzles me are why there are two different types of Engineers. And the fact that they look like they worship Death or Satan or something. Giger is a known satanist and some of his art is apparent of that...But the tech engineers seem viloent while the diaper wearing ones seem peaceful. The tech suit is obviously integrated into the ship Enigneers. While the others just wear robes and diapers..why? Two different ships as well..I have watched the movie a ton of times and see different things each time..its kinda cool. I suggest everyone do the same thing ;P
CurryBear1271
MemberOvomorphJan-18-2014 8:52 PMHere is where I get lost.
If you go in chronlogical order (meaning when they take place, not when they were made), it would be both Predator movies first (second one was horrible) AvP 1 & 2, Predators, Promethus and the all 4 Alien films.
The only connection between Alien, AvP 1 and Promethus is Peter Wayland. He was considered to be dying in AvP 1 and was dead in Promethus.
At the end of AvP 1, the dead Predator has an mutated Alien pop out of him. I thought that is where the landing scene in the first Alien film was. They find a dead ship, unknown to anyone and all these eggs are on it.
Now, I hear that the ship in Promethus that flies off at the end could be the ship from Alien 1??? Anyone as confused as I am??
I know this is coming in late but my reason is that since 2012, I have watched all the movies again, over and over, trying to figure it out. Now that a 'sequal' to Prometheus has been annouced, I am starting to get ansy. We all know it is connected. But all we have is supposition as to the how, why, who, etc. Please help me understand haha. I BOTHER MY BOYFRIEND WITH THESE QUESTIONS.
BigDave
MemberDeaconJan-19-2014 7:05 PMWell welcome aboard...
Let me try and help and explain...
Ok well you see Alien and Predator are two sperate universes, and AVP tries to tie both in but in another universe... its like you know how some say there are many alternative universes where there are more than one of say yourself? or Myself... in one i am typing this right now, but in another i could be what? In the Army or Navy away on duty, in another i could be married with kids etc etc....
This theory is alternative universes based on same thing, so what i do does not link directed to alternative universe of myself.
Another way to look at it is movies.
Have you see the 1990s Batman movies? the first with the Joker played by Jack Nicholson? Now if you have seen the newer Bat Mans and the part 2 the Dark Knight then the late Kieth Ledger plays the Joker. Now while these movies are both based on the Batman Universe and both have the Joker in. They are alternative versions of the universe.
The Joker comes from a different way in both those Batmans and the events of the old Batman Series does not link in anyway to the new movies, only as far as having a Batman and some same characters. But the stories of those old movies do not link with the new ones.
The old ones follow each other and the new ones are a different way to tell the tale of Batman a Reboot of sorts well ALTERNATIVE... thus they are not canon to each other.
Same thing with the new Superman movie compared to the old ones in the 80s, and how you have the Superman TV series Smallvile that is not connected to the new or old movies only as far as being about Superman but just a alternative story.
And with Aliens its the same, Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien Resurection are connected as canon... Predator is not connected to Alien as far as Alien timeline..
But Aliens are to a degree linked to Predator as we see Alien Skulls and Space Jockey in Predator movies.
The AVP Franchise started as comics based to explore the connection with Aliens Skulls in Predator movies, this franchise then went on to become a Game Series based around the Alien movie timeline. And then the AVP movies which based this tale around the time line of now.
But again the AVP movies are not and can not be linked to Alien or Prometheus, but thats not to say that the AVP movies can not be considered to link after Predator 2 and Predators etc.
Hope i have not confused you too much lol
This does not mean that there will never be Predators in Alien universe as far as Alien films, they could ad them to it by showing us them in a Prometheus part 2 or 3 but i dont think they ever will.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
BigDave
MemberDeaconJan-19-2014 7:13 PMNow onto the Alien Ship and one at the end of the movie.
The Ship in Alien has been crashed there for over 2300 years before the crew of Nostramo found it in Alien.
Ridley had said so, you see Alien is set not long after Prometheus aswell, and Ridley said that the event that killed off all those Engineers etc happened some 2000 years give or take before the Prometheus crew got there, and that the Alien Ship the Derelict had crashed on LV 223 some few hundred years before that.
The ship was carrying most likely Eggs and either going to the place in Prometheus from some unknown place but only got as far as LV 426 or most likely it left the place in Prometheus with Eggs but only got as far as LV 426.
Somehow one of the Eggs had got free, well had been compremised and somehow the Space Jockey had got Face Hugged, and this most likely was when he went to investigate some warning or error in the cargo bay and he got Face Hugged.
He then was most likley unconscious like Kane was, and when he awoke he knew he was infected and he rushed to the Pilot seat and knew it was only matter of time before he would fall foul to the Chest Buster and then he headed to the nearest baron place to Qaurantine his deadly Cargo as it had been compremised.
As he set the nearest course to a baron world LV 426 he set off a Warning to inform his race of went went down, and during trying to land on LV 426 he must have been Chest Busted during the last few seconds of the planned landing.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
PredEngieMorph
MemberOvomorphFeb-17-2014 11:10 AMI cant wait for the story to be complete and show there is a major connection between all races whatever it may be heres an idea all the people who dont think theres a connection just dont watch the movie just sit and wait for them to pump out another lame one type of alien movie again like they have been doing how about we bring back 60 year old Weaver/Ridley maybe then Alien fanboys will stop crying ...I love seeing how butt hurt people are because the movie stories were mixed get over it its better this way nobody is lineing up to see any of these stand alone movies cause in reality they suck alone people saying please god no in the thread smh Predators+Engineres+Xenomorphs = Epic
BigDave
MemberDeaconFeb-17-2014 12:06 PMWell we will be seeing some Comics from Dark Horse this year that will losely tie in to each other and may make a connection with the Predators..
Thats not to say that the Predators are Canon to Alien, but they are to Predator so by that they could make another Predator i.e 3 (not inc Predators) or as that movie is supposed to be like Predator 3 well the third movie, they could do a Predators 2 and show us the Xeno in that sure.
Or they could redo AVP and set it way in the future in the same timeline as Aliens i.e set around 2200 +
As for if Prometheus franchise showing us a link to the Predator i am not sure it would.
The Predator could be introduced if done right, but i think the AVP movies kind of damaged the image of the Xeno and Predator to some and thus i cant see them make them Canon to Alien/Prometheus.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Facehuggers
MemberNeomorphFeb-20-2017 5:01 PMCould the Predator have actually sprung from the black goo?