A79 Plot-Gap Solution

@Xenotron, the Company knew it wanted the alien long before Ash was telling them anything. That is why they covertly installed Ash before Nostromo departed from its last stop.

@shambs and odu.......will read them both....thank you. What do you think are the strongest possibilities.? Edit: @shambs.....I saw that before and liked it a lot but not sure on the timeline. @odu....what happened to the chest burster? There was no sign of it or a hatched egg when Nostromo arrived. Why was there only one engineer on board? Why is the air in the jugg not breathable? Surely the Engineers were smart enough to make one for their ships. Why did the Engineer send out a beacon that was not in the Engineer's language? Ash even said it wasn't a language at all.

@Rubirosa, Ridley has recently stated in interviews the ship on LV426 is within a couple hundred of years in age (give or take) with the ships on LV223.

Are you speaking about the original Alien universe we have all come to know. Or is this another of your parallel universes that you control and manipulate just to be different. Its been said so many times before by Ridley that the orginal Space Jockey is probably thousands and thousands of years old. You can even hear Dallas comment that the Space Jockey looks fosilized. You want to complicate the little information that we already know about the Space Jockey with your wild assumptions about Weyland corp having a huge hand in all of this. But I do have to admit that you have a great imagination.

I imagine that @oduodu refers to [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/9755]this[/url] thread.

We also should keep in mind that Prometheus may never *flow* into A79. Weyland, when he speaks to the crew in the hologram, mentions that by the time they hear his speech, he will be long gone. Ridley also points out that relativity is at play where 2.5 years have passed for the crew, many more years have past for people not on board (the company on earth). He doesn't reveal how many years, but it is conceivable that by the time Prometheus gets to LV223, the events of A79 have already come and gone, and so Prometheus may have no real way to get to A79 temporally. Just a thought.

For the Weyland-Yutani piece......how about this...... When Peter and his daughter did not return it caused massive logistical battles for control over Weyland and after too many investors pulled out, Yutani offered a partnership. This is why Weyland-Yutani owned the Nostromo 30 years after 223.

@odu.....thanks for the response. I think we are seeing different versions of how the Company became aware of the derelict. Prometheus is in the Alien universe as 223 and 426 are in the same star system but A79 is as far as the connection goes for Prometheus in Paradise (my pet title). The events will be running along roughly the same time frame but independent of Ripley. I don't think anyone in the Company became aware of the derelict until after Peter failed to return and/or the Company received Shaw's message. Considering the Weyland empire, and the rag tag crew on Prometheus, Peter was probably seen as an eccentric, arrogant old fool chasing chicken scratches on old stone. However, someone in the Company became curious when the crew did not return. i believe the rest is explained in the OP. Here is the center of my position: the Xenomorph on 426 only happened after the human/engineer/trilobite orgy on 223. It was those set of unique circumstances that created the xenomorph and here is the kicker: it was done independent of the black goo. David fed Holloway the microchip, which was only one ingredient of the black goo. I guess Peter told him to hoping to see if it would create a superhuman or something close to an engineer or it was just a simple Ash -repeat for Peter to get it back to earth....but that doesn't really make sense either. Peter was only interested in living longer. We have to consider the possibility someone at the Company slipped a program Mickey into David on the off chance Shaw and Holloway were correct. Here is what we know: the Company as a whole did not know about the derelict and alien inside. It was only a select few. This is important because is shows the risk they were willing to take by sending Nostromo to 426. I believe they took that risk because Nostromo was the closest ship under their control. This is my first time doing this as well but I like the brainstorming, no matter how silly it may seem to the experts.

Are they moving at light speed? I don't know. Ridley said this was a very loose prequel to A79 so everything wont match up exactly and we also know he said the significance is the end of Prometheus has the DNA attaching itself to the first alien. We also know Weyland wasn't actually dead. From my understanding, the time in stasis is the same time they are awake. It's just a way to avoid 2 years of boredom.

Well it doesnt seem Ridley is holding too close to speed of travel implications because he has been pretty clear Prometheus happens prior to A79. Plus, I suspect the reason they state the year at the beginning of the movie is to show it happens before A79, which is also supported by Ridley saying Prometheus is a prequel to A79.

Agreed. And it could be argued that when Shaw mentions it's New Years 2094, it really isn't. It's only 2094 to her. In fact, technically she would know exactly what earth year it is. I'm sure that would be a simple calculation. Perhaps an oops on the part of Ridley? Strange since he acknowledges the relativity part in his DC.

They have *faster* than light travel. They went approximately 34 light years in 2.5 years. Relativity says (with our current understanding) that anything with mass can't travel *at* the speed of light since the mass of the traveler would go to infinity. Also at the speed of light time moves forward infinitely fast relative to the traveler, so earth would be infinitely far into the future. From earth's perspective, the Prometheus comes to a stand still at the speed of light. It's motionless. Hard to imagine, but true. Anyway, faster than light travel has strange implications that defy logic, but it's a science fiction movie after all. Weyland wasn't dead because he was aboard the ship, and since the movie is following the timeline of the ship, not earth's, we see him alive after only 2.5 years in stasis. Stasis isn't so much to avoid boredom, but more to save resources like air, food, water, etc. that would be needed otherwise.

Humm The eggs were under a stasys field, so that is why they kept viable...we do not even know how many were actually viable. The ship being there for over 2000 years is something explained even by Ridley Scott himself. But anyway congrats for imagination, I like that, but not the concept. We already took so much off the original Space Jockey...

If they were in stasis how did they get out to kill the space jockey? Being in stasis does not negate my theory by any means. the Company could have put them in stasis before leaving LV 426. Ridley may have said the ship was there for two thousand years but how many people do you believe know that? If my scenario were played out I'm confident more than 80% of viewers would not know that. Ridley said he wants to use the space jockey as a catalyst and that is why I thought of a scenario.

Another plot twist could be the Engineers had several androids in the Company. This is how they maintained close surveillance of humans without revealing themselves.

I posted a plot here in this [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/10518&page=3]Thread[/url] but just for fun.

The company wanted the organism in Alien because Ash was telling them all of the alien's physical properties through MUTHER. It's not necessary to explain anything.

Uneeque Hi there Simply out of curiosity : have you read the ambiguity questions started by snorkelbottom in the alien section ?

So when they arrived at LV223 and dated the dead guys, is that dating process affected by travel? Or is carbon dating fixed? If carbon dating is fixed, how can it transcend relativity calculations? I'm just an idiot so I have no idea how these things work. I always thought theory of relativity meant deciding who to invite to a family reunion.

Well, it wouldn't affect the dating equipment. When they report the engineers have been dead for 2000 years, that would be correct (assuming correct calibration). But how long ago did the events happen on LV223? It would be relative to who you want measure the time by, earth or Prometheus. If earth time passed 100 years, say, when Prometheus got to LV223, then the outbreak on LV223 happened 1900 years ago, not 2000, respective to earth. Relativity is strange because there isn't a universal time. You can't put everyone on the same timeframe. As you travel through space-time, you affect time.