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MemberOvomorphOct-05-2012 11:37 AMI'm not sure if [i]the black goo, scarab, organotech DESTROYs the Alien canon[/i] but I have a suspicion we're all missing something truly essential, something fundamental that's altered the TIMELINE.
Ready?
The first Alien derelict, potentially thousands of years old, sat there on LV-426 waiting; warning all not to land.
The first sacrifice Engineer to land on Earth, spilling his DNA after quaffing down black goo, scarrab, nanotech (it's all the same thing that breaks down them rewires to design) into our rivers and lakes. Maybe even causing a drinking party of proto-APES to mutate like Holloway and Fifield into what we now call Modern Humans.
But this balck stuff, this genetic 'genesis' liquid ... it's been around for hundreds of thousands of years if it made (pre-humans) and millions of years if it made (dinosaurs).
Wouldn't there be a 'chance' that THE ENTIRE GALAXY is riddled with this stuff? I mean, don't you just need like one drop of this tech to land on a planet to totally rewrite its ecosystem.
I'm VERY CONCERNED about the timeline implication of such an 'accident', and I still don't understand the 'ancient eggs' under the laser shield of the egg chamber that were a) found on LV-426's Ganesha-driven derelict and b) mirrored or at least 'homaged' in Prometheus's bighead statued, reactive mural'd silo room.
Anyway, that's it, no real 'theory', just an itchy feeling ... has the black goo BROKEN (or at least inadvertantly re-written) the Alien canon?
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zzplural
MemberOvomorphOct-05-2012 12:03 PMNo, it doesn't. You're making several wild assumptions in your post, Custodian. If I were you, I'd hang on for a bit to find out what it's all actually about.
The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent
Major Noob
MemberOvomorphOct-05-2012 12:26 PMNo I think it fits right in. Maybe those urns were placed in the chamber to mimic a field of spores, out of reverence. Maybe as people are saying the urns are an attempt to streamline the containment and delivery over the less stable spores. The Goo is a new plot device, yes, and it makes all kinds of terrible new things possible while still sharing characteristics of the Xeno, which was always only one example of what could happen when exposed to the Alien biology. I think it enhances the canon, and propels it forward.
Custodian
MemberOvomorphOct-05-2012 1:49 PMI know, I'm confused, and you're all right. But, I know what set me off. This unused poster idea. Which must have come from ideas shared by Ridley Scott himself:
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/unused_prometheus_poster_2.jpg[/img]
I love the image, but I think it breaks the Alien xenomorph concept in a fundamental way. I know Ash went on about the PERFECT ORGANISM but I don't really see how this ancient use of it would produce Alien Eggs with Facehuggers in them, in one era, and be about black goo in urns several thousand years later.
It's like DEVOLUTION, or just simply a broken timeline. Unless they Lindelof Pro~2 and Pro~3 by saying, "Oh, yeah, the LV-426 juggernaut actually crashlanded AFTER the LV-223 events. It's not as old as we first led you to believe with Dallas's [i]fossilised[/i] comment."
I just have this nagging feeling - forget it, it's just me. And you all know me. I worry too much about all the wrong things.
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warrior7
MemberOvomorphOct-05-2012 11:29 PMThe Alien canon is going to STAY canon. There's no story without it.
Custodian
MemberOvomorphOct-06-2012 1:37 AM"Don't worry, me happy," thanks M.N.
It's just that 'glitches in the matrix' double cats worry me, plague my meowndering hours, rwaaaaoorrrrr.
LOL
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Custodian
MemberOvomorphOct-06-2012 2:45 AMPS: I've started a brand-new thread dedicated to this WELCOME TO IMMORTALITY concept that seemed to form a concrete foundation to the marketing architecture before it was completely dropped.
Why? We may never know.
PPS: warrior7, I'd like to think so ... but organotech-everywhere suggests that the Alien story might be relegated to its own PARALLEL UNIVERSE - suspecting the Bobby Ewing-in-shower-isation of a whole film franchise.
And potentially, the rebirth of the AVP franchise, merged with (of course) Ridley's Replicant Off Worlders. What if all the crew of Nostromo and Prometheus were the ed-blooded organotech replicant versions of the David8 milk-blooded robots?
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/unused_prometheus_poster_2.jpg[/img]
GOT [b]MILK[/b]? the blood of David? do you see it oozing out flowing dripping?
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Custodian
MemberOvomorphOct-07-2012 3:11 AMYou all see the MILK pouring out of this unused poster's EVERLASTING LIFE containers, right?
David is CLEARLY the everlasting-key to immortality in the post-Prometheus Universe, right? The transplantation of PERSONALITY into synthetic humans or Artificial People who will EVENTUALLY swarm all over the galaxies like a virus, the way the Earth in Blade Runner is littered with replicants.
But then where does this leave the LATER Ash-droid's machinations, drives, motivations whatever in the 1979 Alien? This is the bit I can't rationalise with the potential of the David unit as shown in the Prometheus film -- it's like he VANISHED FROM REALITY once he headed off for Paradise, taking all his immense accumulated knowledge with him. But surely there'd be databases ... unless David is his own private database, with no external I/O ports.
A sealed GOD unit?
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bobbycorwen
MemberOvomorphOct-07-2012 7:56 AMI believe that because the engineers have created/discovered a biological weapon in coolition with a species they are in symbiosis with, they then obviously wanted to destroy the race of humans who they created for becoming to dangerous, but in waylands curiosity he has david infect a human with the dna splicing ooze. Which he then passed on to noomi who in effect became the progenitor to the xenomorphs in the later movies by allowing them to reproduce, still as a parasite, but with a uteras style ,egg producing, larval stage! our gift to a species which ultimately destroys the engineers, somebody (david maybe) survives informs weyland yutani corp of this biological species and the capabilities they posses and so they set about making the same mistakes the engineers did. Thus allowing the whole circle of life sting to continue
bobbycorwen
MemberOvomorphOct-07-2012 8:06 AMalso with the fossilized comment, you dont know how long the ship sat on the planet it resided on in prometheus, so it potentially could be as old as everyone initially thought. i reckon immortality is the existential part in this, its a case of something created us (engineers) and unwittingly we created the species to destroy us (xenomorphs) and so on and so on. We are immortal through our ability to reproduce so to speak.
Custodian
MemberOvomorphOct-07-2012 2:18 PMbobbycorwen,
thanks for that; thoughts as rich as yours make me wanna believe in REINCARNATION so that all our cerebral/societal efforts aren't in vain.
:)
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