last engineer face burn - what caused it?

im pretty sure shaw does it to him, but its a deleted scene

then he should have TURNED THE OTHER CHEEK anyone else who has concrete evidence, proof? Yours, doubting Thomas.

lol im sure its on here somewhere..she has a flame thrower in her hands walking around...have a look around the site...

In the theatrical release, the Engineer clearly has a burned face as he rushes towards Shaw. Before he was grabbed by the Trilobite. [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/2mg8o5d.png[/img]

I've always said, the engineer was preserved in hipersleepcapsule because was exposed to some infection like others, was clearly infected, it s a mutation same as dissected head on lab that blow up. *Weyland had to make sure before opening it. [img]http://s019.radikal.ru/i618/1210/fd/af48c0c611fb.jpg[/img]

I think that it is a valid idea, because hyper-sleep was the same proposal David8 made to Dr. Shaw when she was found pregnant. Was hyper-sleep, the answer to stop the mutations?

LOL are you guys serious - you have watched this film yet? Although tbh this film is so messy it could be deleted stuff - if its the infection part that is even worse because its so unobvious - really bad film making if its that! He was just in a space ship collision and crash! Plus lots of fires burning around it - he was clearly not touched when he got out of hyper sleep. The mistake I reckon is one of many this film has and is still churning out!

well, that's all really weird, because this picture (from the deleted scenes) suggests that Engineer's face is FINE whilst confronting Shaw outside 'cuddles's door. [img]http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ds_04_finalbattle-1881.jpg[/img] Could be evidence of an earlier FLAME THROWER FIGHT that got scrapped (and wasn't dumped into the deleted scenes folder (like the book reading scene)) I still contend that cuddles acid-burned Last Engineer as he tentacle-grabbed him across the face until new evidence arrives. [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/if6gkn.jpg[/img]

Yer but still a mistake which ever way you view it :S . Man seems like there's a new mistake every day :( ...I was happier with just the big ones :P

It may have just been added in post

MVMNT, of all the things to 'add in post'. LOL.

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Yer they should of added a clowns nose too in post eh :D . Yes soo messy - was no one paying attention to all this crap :O...

In the theatrical release, exactly the same shot as above shows a massive burn to the face. Deleted scenes are often left out of a movie for a reason, you know.

I thought the burns were from the Juggernaut's collision? I will pause multiple times with the Blu-Ray!

wait a minute. this is a NON issue. im sick and tired of people bitching about things they have literally fabricated (or just simply dont understand). From the moment the engineer enters the "life boat" via the airlock, to the final moments of him birthing the deacon, the engineer's burnt/injured half of face etc. is consistently shown to the viewer. There is no inconsistency whatsoever. Thats objective FACT (go watch the film). whatever may or may not be, pertaining to the deleted scenes, is irrelevant. Deleted/alternate scenes are included in the homevideo release to illuminate the filmmaking process. They are not part of the film (until and unless the filmmaker decides to re-cut and re-release the film at a later date). Its likely that the engineer was injured when the juggernaut went down after being rammed by the prometheus. Nothing in the film contradicts the aforementioned possibility.

@Apex_Predator Great Spot.... Bottom line this proves that Ridley is not the God that some think, and he is Human and makes mistakes..... Gladiator anyone ;) Yes we do see the Engineer enter through the door and attack Shaw and all the time he is burnt, then we see the Trilobite attack him and he is also burnt... We then see the deleted scene and in this one the Engineer is not burnt and not until the door opens and the Squid Grabs him, but the Burn is on the other side to where he was grabbed and it appears the burn is there prior. I assumed maybe they shot the Shaw vs Engineer Scene... then just as they was to shoot the part with the Trilobite they decided to re-shoot another Shaw vs Engineer scene as they did not like the scene and so went for another and then filmed the Trilobite Scene. Thus the logical explanation for the new scene was he suffered burns from the crash, and this would be a valid reason to cut the full scene... But again maybe between the shooting of the first attack scene and Trilobite there was a another scene where the burn happened, this was cut for some reason but then that left a hard way to explain the burn aside from re-shoot the Shaw vs Engineer scene to a shorter one. oh.... Just Checked the Deacon bust scene in slow mo and the Engineer has the burn.

Yes - just had a look and in the actual film the burn is always there - burnt from the crash or just after like I said in my first post. I did however go on what the original poster said about it being a mistake and that was wrong I guess unless hes watching some version I have not seen or something!

I have noticed a few flaws with the Last Battle scene that if they kept it in would leave goofs.... some are minor (Shadow outside the lifeboat when Shaw enters) and the other is major such as the NO BURN MARKS.... They must have shot that scene then there must have been another part to explain why the Engineer got burnt face but was not happy with the scene. So they re-shot another scene after the Trilobite Scene where the Engineer is now burnt. This means if they keep the full orginal scene as it was on deleted scenes then while some parts are interesting, he has no burns and how do you explain them after? They would have to do some editing if they kept it in the extended cut and i would do it as follows. Edit the shot of the shadow by window taking it out, just as they did in theatrical. Keep the rest of the last battle but after the last axe hit where Shaw runs through the door we see the engineer try go through and get his hand stuck for a second. (this is the point the theatrical version of attack starts. They could then edit a exploding or bang and hissing sound, and a Engineer groan, then maybe add some after cgi effects then cut to the rest of the theatrical.. We would then be led to conclude that as he came through the door some kind of explosion or something then burnt the Engineer. This would be a way to add parts where he was not burnt to conclude with the other scene. PS i take back my comment to Ridley.... as i said above i noticed that the Engineer Deacon Chest Buster scene he has burns had he not then yes that would have been a major Goof....

At least we now know how/why the vodka bottle is standing upright after the crash. It never occurred to me that Shaw would have a crafty swig of the strong stuff.

Ok, after watching the deleted scene of the fight with Shaw you can clearly see the trilobite cause the burn. It reaches around his face with a tentacle and you hear and see his face sizzle. However, in the theatrical he comes thru the door and charges Shaw and he already has the burns, before being hit with the tentacle. So, we're to assume he recieved the burns in the crash. The prop Engineer they used for the birth scene should have had the burn. That's a mistake. This mistake doesn't bother me but you have to admit that it's a pretty large mistake that should never have been made. Guess it happens when you're changing things constantly up until the last minute.

Zzplural Is there indeed a scene where Shaw drinks form the bottel after hiding behind the counter ?

but the prop engineer used for the deacon birth scene DOES have a burn on his face. Good lord! the 4 disc blu ray set is amazing!

The Burns in the deleted scene are not there before Shaw hits the Door Switch but then they are before the Tentacle gets him... So who really knows what went down.....

Listen to the commentary. The editor states that it was the tentacle that delivered the burn. So he wasn't burned when he fought Shaw. Then they decided to take the fight out. They had to go back and re-shoot the Engineer with the burn upon entering the life boat.

@JoeyJoe...Sorry, I just saw this pic posted in this thread and it doesn't look like the burn is there... [img]http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/3227/deaconprometheusmoviest.jpg[/img] I didn't remember seeing the burn in the pics of the engineer prop in the art of the film book so I assumed it wasn't there.

Here is a screen grab from the film proper. Burned to a crisp. [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/19qav5.png[/img] @oduodu: There is a BluRay deleted scene where Shaw takes a breather, grabs a bottle of vodka and takes several swigs, before placing it down on the counter. [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/qsv5sh.jpg[/img] [Edit: added photo. Sorry the quality is not great. I used my phone camera]

Post.

to burn or not to burn, that is the [u]post[/u] question?

I always attributed the face burn with the collision. Not the impact itself, but an injury from his descent to find Shaw. Fires were everywhere at the time.

I have to admit I had not noticed the face burn. Just like RS to have additional Prometheus Fire references throughout the movie. THat fight between thealien and Engineer seemed almost like Pro Wrestling bout. THat alien had so many tenacles that even for the Engineer's size and strength his physicallity let him down. That had to quite a blow to this Engineer's ego. A lesson learned too late.

Will some of you guys give it a rest already. Its an INCONSISTENCY it happens in movies more times than you or me have seen them. I saw the same thing but the scene is called a 'deleted scene' for a reason. They couldnt put it in the movie because of its design not lining up with the plot of the film No he was not squirted by acid that only comes out when you wound the creature are you sure you've seen Alien?! NO No and No, its not an infection people read the script or listen to the Blu-ray commentary. I dont mean to be harsh but these "conspiracy fans" are always trying to make up things just so they are happy with what they didnt like. I LOVED the movie and I was expecting everything like the 'elephant-like suit' face it its a frikin suit not a Pachyderm.

In my version of the movie the Last Engineer clearly has the face burns when he confronts Shaw. So the I see it the face burn is the result of the spacecraft collission. It is curious that the LE has no helmet on during the final scenes in the safety capsule. But since he was already inside the module he may have discarded it upon entry to the mini ship. ( I guess it is even possible that the entire atmosphere on the moon was changed to support the two remaining non alien lifeforms.) Thr Running Engineers used one in their scenes.

Visual mistakes like this often occur in film - hence the need for someone to constantly check "continuity" for consistency from day to day and from shot to shot. Someone dropped the ball here. In some theatrical and deleted scenes the engineer is clearly burned - in others, he isn't. I think a safe assumption is that his burns were the result of the collision and subsequent crash of the juggernaut.

A little bit larger picture here is that the Lst Engineer not only survived the violent crash of the spaceships..but still had the desire, the hate, the need to seek out the last human on the moon to destroy. Finding Shaw and his eventual death was the result of his last journey. I n thinking back he really didn't have a good time after David woke him up. I sort of feel bad for the Engineer.

Prometheus detractors are funny fellas. First, instead of trying to understand something, they are eager to accuse the filmmakers of carelessness. Why do they do that? Is it because they want to feel smarter, superior to the artists? [i]The Engineer has a burn in his face.[/i] He just escaped from a big, colossal spaceship which EXPLODED in the air and then fell on the surface of the planetoid/moon. Gee, is it so hard to connect the dots? He was hurt during the collision between the Prometheus and the Juggernault. No biggie. [i]Oh, there is a shot or two in which his face has no burns?[/i] Hello, ladies and gentlemen, please meet [b]Mr. Continuity Error[/b], a persistent dude that appears in every single movie ever made. My patience is not infinite.

Well the actual Truth of the Matter could be this..... Like many scenes, there was much more shot than was shown and i also mean the Deleted Scenes.... the Sacrificial Scene with Elders.... There was Dialog between the one Elder and Sacrificial Engineer that never made it into the deleted Scene. There was a alternative (or original) Fifield Scene where Weyland was in the Cargo Hold and Shaw also as she runs Fifield over. Again this did not make the movie or deleted scenes. The Last Engineer was shot running to the Lifeboat, with no Burns and no Mask, again this never made it to the movie or deleted scenes. And Finally The Engineer did come across some Books in Vickers Quarters and knelt down to read one, and again this is not even in the deleted Scenes. So there is every possibility that there was a scene shot that showed [b]HOW[/b] the Engineer got that Burn. But like so many other scenes it was not shown not even in deleted scenes. Ultimately Ridley was not happy with the Fight Scene between Shaw and Engineer, and they may have decided to then Shoot another Scene where the Engineer runs through the door and right away pushes Shaw. They did this on the same day after they shot the previous deleted scene... You see they would done a Scene where Engineer is burnt, then not liked it and re shot the scene that led up to that part only they never had time to redo the Engineers make up etc... [b]I BELIEVE I KNOW HOW THE BURN HAPPENED.....[/b] You need to watch very careful and in Slow Mo... regardless of what Scene the theatrical or deleted.... When Shaw hits the Door open Scene the Engineer is burnt, before the Tentacle touches him. But watch Carefully after when he is struggling on the floor with the Trilobite.... When Shaw is under the Engineer had then breaks free from a Tentacle of the Trilobite.... Guess what.................... Engineer is not Burnt.... not at all... So Door opens Engineer Face Burnt, he struggles with Shaws Baby and no Burns then get to the shot of the Trilobite Mouth opening up to Face Hug the Engineer.. and he is burnt, then second latter he is not.. lol only fort split second.. Then its back to the Trilobite as it launches its mouth tentacles to attach to the Engineer and then Face Hug him, at this shot he is burnt... Conclusion...... During the Struggle the Engineer either did something to injure the Trilobite (Maybe Bite a Tentacle thus Acid) or the Trilobite spray some Acid from the Tentacle. But i guess for the Canon of the movie we have to go for the End Product and thus Ridley shot another scene after the full Attack Scene. In which the Engineer was more aggressive and wanted to just harm Shaw ASP... The Burns then put down to most likely suffered during the Crash! When the Original Plan and Shot was they happened during the Engineer vs Squid Scene after the part where the Engineer tried to use his feet on the Door Frames to stop the Trilobite from getting to him.