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asphaltpilot
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 8:24 AMI was texting with friend who is also a big fan of the Alien Universe. He said the interview with R. Scott didn't give good vibes. It gave him a sense that Ridley was either disappointed in the movie, its plot, evolution of the overall engineer/SJ storyline, or generally didn't really care about one of all of the above. : (
What are your thoughts if you've seen it? I'm dying to know, I don't have it yet.
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Mateo
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 9:04 AMall he needs is a good writer because screenwriters swarming in hollywood are ruin assured, last one Disney with Lone Ranger. Do not know where I read from an interview, that the time he would take writing an aceptable screenplay it would take him the time to make two films.

skuaimages
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 9:14 AMWhich interview is your friend talking of?
Pretty sure I haven't read / heard it - and it hasn't been mentioned before here.
We would all be interested to hear about a new/recent interview.
He and Fox seemed keen on the sequel - hope this hasn't changed.
Tend to agree with Mateo - screenplay can take ages - Greg Bear's Forge of God
has been developing for years and that is from a already written plot!

OldGuy
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 9:12 AMDirectors typically do not express displeasure with their own works so quickly unless they don't expect to work in the business again. Not much can be discerned from Ridley's sour expression and body language but who knows? Perhaps your friend is great at reading between the lines :)
In Space, no one can hear you fart.

warrior7
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 9:26 AMPerhaps he's realized that he had accomplished none of the objects he set out to accomplish when making Prometheus. All it did to Alien fans and just general audiences is raise more questions. Like what Mateo was saying, he really needs to find a better writer this time

CBT1979
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 9:30 AMI think Ridley might kind be frustrated that the movie did not
ended with his vision of a deeper sci-fi movie but instead FOX
might insisted to cut many important scenes away and make
the 2nd half of the movie into a mainstream horror flick, loosing
the mystical strands.

Mateo
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 9:52 AMI have audio copy:
[url=http://www3.zippyshare.com/v/23946320/file.html]Audio[/url]

skuaimages
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 10:35 AMThank you Mateo.
RS does not give a lot away there - not sure that he sounds despondent about
Prometheus or its reception.
He is clearly interested in doing the prequel - though he loves the filming side of directing hence his comments about the western that seems to be scripted already.
It will be at least a year for 'Paradise' to get to this stage hence the 2014/15 potential release year. He will not rush the screenplay (whoever does it) especially after some of the negative criticism P attracted. I personally could not agree with most of that criticism by the way.
One thing I noted was RS said the derelict in Alien was only a few hundred years before Prometheus landed. I thought it and the space jockey was much older.
All in all, RS is getting older and he may slip up sometimes remembering
specific things - and he will find it harder to do multiple film planning/development/ shooting/editing I am sure, than he did ten years or more ago. I just hope he doesn't take on too much and screw things up!
He is such an intriguing guy even if he uses the f word too much for me.
Would love to hear him get angry.

joeyjoe
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 10:36 AMthe film was correctly cut down. The deleted/alternate scenes were sub par (for the most part). Personally, i would have been irritated had they cut some of that trash back in. There are only one or two deleted scenes that i am waffling back and forth on. The rest...excellent call. Scotts always seemed more than happy with the film.

zzplural
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 11:04 AM@skuaimages.
Didn't Ridley say that the Derelict was a 'brother' ship to the one on LV-223? If so, they were brothers a couple of thousand years ago. Isn't that the timeframe he was talking about?
@joeyjoe:
Completely agree, and I don't have any idea where the impression that Ridley is not happy with the film came from. In the BluRay commentary he says that he would like to do the sequel, right now, because he enjoyed it so much.
The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent

skuaimages
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 11:25 AM@joeyjoe
I agree that most of the extra scenes would not have enhanced the film, and that some were rightly cut. I thought the pace of the film was a bit fast at times but upon second viewing changed my opinion.
@zzplural
yes i had always understood the derelict had crashed several thousand years before nostromo found it. RS distinctly said in that interview it was a brother ship and was about 200 years older - did no-one pick that up - think it shows he may lose a few marbles at times - if he reads this perhaps he would comment! fat chance!

Major Noob
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 11:48 AMI didn't see evidence in Prometheus of Ridley losing anything but his inhibitions. The man is a flat out monster!

asphaltpilot
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 11:55 AMThe interview I was talking about was from the collectors edition. I'm glad from what I'm reading here that he didn't sound to blah on the subject. I'd hate to see him get too old to care where he's taking the franchise.
"Didn't Ridley say that the Derelict was a 'brother' ship to the one on LV-223? If so, they were brothers a couple of thousand years ago. Isn't that the timeframe he was talking about."
I understood it as the ships are closely related in age (the ships are several thousand years old) but the derelict is a couple hundred years older. *shrug*

joeyjoe
MemberOvomorphOct-11-2012 7:04 PM@major noob: agreed!
@asphaltpilot: yeah. thats pretty much the gist. Also, interesting piece of info in the blu ray set. If you look in the "quiet eye" notes to the right of the viral video, you see that weyland makes note of LV 426. Specifically, Weyland corp. has picked up a faint signal from LV 426 and David is the only member of the crew (aside from peter w. himself) who is aware of this. How interesting! throughout the entire film, david is aware of the possibility that there is also something worth investigating on LV 426. Point is...this just further solidifies what happened with the "derelict" on lv 426:
Things go to hell in the engineers' bio weapons facility on LV 223 (this event occurs approximately 2000 years before the prometheus sets down on LV 223). Engineers get infected etc. At least one engineer (who is infected) manages to get off of LV 223 using one of the multiple juggernauts found on the planetoid/moon. Said engineer eventually gives birth to the weapon that has infected him. As a result, he crash/emergency lands on what happens to be LV 426. in the process he sets off the warning beacon. Again, this all happens somewhere around the time of the outbreak that occured on LV 223. Now you've got the derelict sitting there on LV 426 long before the prometheus comes looking for answers on LV 223. While entertaining shaw and holloways theories, weyland discovers the warning beacon emanating from LV 426 (but isnt sure what to make of it). david knows etc. The prometheus goes to LV 223. we all know what happens there. Presumably the company assumes LV 223 was a failed mission. Later on down the line they decide to set up a set of circumstances that place the nostromo in range of the beacon on LV 426....and, having been sitting there for thousands of years (obviously even prior to the events of shaw and co.), theres the "derelict" juggernaut sitting there waiting for them etc.
I think the above is generally what happened. Works with events of both prometheus and alien and works with much of what has been implied/stated by the filmmakers (ie: derelict is a "brother" ship to the juggernaut seen in Prometheus). Also, this theory supports the notion of prometheus as a parallel or tangential story to alien. The events that were experienced by the crew of the prometheus were not necessary in order for the events of Alien to occur. I like that a great deal. Explains things, but still allows the derelict juggernaut its mystery. lets face it, beyond a general understanding of what happened to the derelict craft (which i feel we have now), the derelict craft needs to remain a mystery. I completely agree with ridley when he said that showing exactly and linearly what happened to the "derelict" craft on LV 426 would have been way too on the nose!
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