The Engineers Home Planet

tankgirl
Social LiasonMemberOvomorphDecember 14, 20124114 Views27 RepliesI was looking at the image of the Engineers and started thinking about their clothing...
It looks as if it is cotton and they have a rope styled belt
a metal pin.....holding the cape
and a neck decoration that appears to be made of fibres....
[img]http://doubleonothing.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/prometheus-elder-engineers.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheus_engineers_deleted_opening_scene.jpg[/img]
I began wondering whether we could start working out what their home planet looks like by working backwards from these clues....as you would with forensic evidence...
so...cotton and plant fibres.......
does that mean their planet has plants ?
and what is the Vial made from that holds the goo?? clay...wood..plastic?
There is the large circular spaceship and the juggernaut etc etc
the material used to build these may have come from thier planet?
We know they are carbon based ....what about the atmosphere of their home planet...do we know when they needed their suits or not to breath??
they seem to be able to breathe naturally on Earth?? so oxygen??
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December 14, 2012
you post some very interesting ideas. im not sure im clever enough to figure out much from that info but thats a very good way of reasoning... perhaps the earth is made in the image of their homeworld, in some respect. although hopefully it will also be different in interesting ways. i have always imagined the bowl and their ships to be made out of some strange sort of metal that may not be comparable to anything on earth... it all seems a lot more organic in design anyway. hard to know for sure though.
keep up the good work ;)
December 14, 2012
Those images are beautiful. I never thought to examine the items that the Engineers wear and then try and fathom what their home world would be like. You are correct in your method Tank and I am sure there are fans on this site that would love to try and explore this thread.
Cotton, therefore many crops of different variety, therefore stable atmosphere and seasonal climate, not forgetting plenty of water, oxygen, carbon dioxide, nitrogen etc.....
Time to get the white board out and do some flow-charts.
The question is this: At the time we meet the Engineers in Prometheus, is their planet still habitable or has some catastrophe occurred where Paradise has turned into a hell-hole?
Great thread Tanky :)
December 15, 2012
tankgirl, prometheus CIS, you re so forensics. All in all you are the right track i think. Love the picture, going by all the wrinkles and how they form, i think the engineers have all the same emotions as humans too.
"how do you feel?"-" great, next stupid question"
December 15, 2012
Makes me think now of possible disparate aspects of their culture: supreme technology and sat at looms cross-legged and weaving for their lives, lol.
Seriously, this is a level-headed observation Tankgirl and a refreshing topic.
I would've preferred the attire to have been non-woven and possibly completely alien - pixels or liquid clothing for example.
December 15, 2012
They would have to have resources, and i think at the time of this sacrifice, their home planet was fresh, and true paradise. So millions of years later, and some goo experiments, some good, some bad,we have the new suit, i think is a new age space suit fused with the goo. I think some Engineers got into the whole fusing with the goo, but it turned them mental, and the ones who stayed away, were probably sacrificed by being facehugged or even got away. I want it Paradise!
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December 15, 2012
Tankgirl:
I have my own top secret ideas about this.
That I'm not going to tell you.
Apologies, MN
December 15, 2012
If there is one thing that does stand out about the appearance of the engineers and their clothes, is the lack of pigmentation in both skin and clothing. I've not spotted any with tattoos either. Their fingernails have a terra cotta look, All very basic and earthy.
December 15, 2012
The Sacrificial Engineers behave almost like monks. They have amazing technology at their disposal, but they choose to dress in an ancient style. Which is fair enough. I imagine that woven fibres are to be found in the development of many galactic civilisations (sometimes the simplest ideas are the best).
I'll tell you what I think about the Engineer 'home planet',,, it has been lost in the mists of time, many hundreds of millions of years ago. Now they are a galactic race. 'Paradise' is a portal to another dimension, closer to the idea of heaven than somewhere that is just a wonderful place.
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December 16, 2012
i reckon at some point small planets will be used for a single purpose ie a planet for wheat a planet for cotton a mining planet (of course that not an original idea) it makes sense as populations grow rather than spoiling the varied ecosystem of your homeworld with superfarms in the way we got rid of rainforest for palm plantations/cattle to terraform small unused planets for a single purpose.
maybe theyd have done that then their homeworld might be all rainforest with ecofreindly powered cities for temples and habitation so-on, unless there had been an outbreak or war?
i really cant imagine how paradise will be! it seems too avataresque to be all alien rainforest and too predictable for it to be a global giger shrine cool as that would be! maybe it should just be like earth! but bigger! and the difference will be how the people live their way of life etc.....
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December 16, 2012
I can imagine Paradise to be a future Giger-esque version of Ancient Rome, with giant colosseums and maybe some pyramid type structures. Something Richard Burton would have been proud to make a speech about.
December 16, 2012
hahaha! engineer praetorian guards.... engineer gladiatorial arena with shaw armed only with davids head versus angry bob gladiators and xenos on chains instead of the tigers "are you not enterntaaineddd!!!!"
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December 16, 2012
Ben Hur style Juggernaut racing could bring a whole new meaning to Chariots of the Gods. I would definitely pay good money to see something like that.
December 19, 2012
irt. [b]JooJoobee[/b]: my thoughts exactly. It's a world, Jim, but not as we know it.
irt. [b]caenorhabhditis[/b] (on the gladiatorial combat): YES! That needs to happen NAO!
irt. [b]Batchpool[/b]: fair point on the lack of colors. Maybe the light of their world is dim and/or with a reduced spectrum? So as to impede color vision?
Oh, PS, why does their world -have- to be a planet?
The whole point of this is lost if you keep it a secret.
December 20, 2012
irt. [b]Indy John[/b]: about physicality and being buff,
you may be right about the strata of Engineer society, but some things are a bit more complex in the history of Earth. The people who work out today, usually, tend to be better off, financially. Getting rippin' abs isn't just a matter of exercise, diet is also important. The fact that you have time for exercise is in itself telling.
And, things weren't that different in ancient times. Many of the poorer people weren't very physically imposing, because they didn't have much to eat and because many of the 'lowly' jobs weren't that physical.
Then again, some definitely were (and the people doing them, while poor, were kept well nourished). I'm thinking of the English Navvies of the 18th-19th century- those people had to shift ludicrous amounts of earth and rock around. Miners in general tended to be burly. I'd also expect rowers in galleys to have some muscle mass. Soldiers in general but Archers in particular needed to be very well conditioned.
Peasants, cobblers, workhands in factories- not really.
The whole point of this is lost if you keep it a secret.
December 20, 2012
I note that in the opening sceen the Engineer seemed perfectly at ease in whatever temperature was there at the falls, Something temperate I suspect.
Their physicallity seemed to me to be a working class used to manual labor. It would be hard to believe their intellectual capacity was huge compared to our minds and just worked out to develop a body displayed.
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December 21, 2012
".. The fact that you have time for exercise is in itself telling...."
I had not thought of that, I guess during the Middle ages not everyone took a 4 week vacation each year.
Now that you mention it 'redneck' is term that started from farmers working on the farm out in the hot sun that didn't wear the wigs of the genteel set.
In fact the term 'Blue Bloods' was applied to a class of citizens that never went out into the sun thinking the paler the skin the more aristocratic they were and quite above in social standing to any people of dark or darker skin. That is a sad commentary on humanity.
Blue blood was the term given to folks because the blue colored veins could easily be seen thru pale skin.
In this light(no pun intended) our Sacrificicial Engineer may have been bred and conditioned just for this moment , the creation of new life.
This sort of implies a caste system on the Engineer's home world. Any aliens, xeno or otherwise, that the Engineers discovered would automatically be 2nd class(or servents) and have no chance to be equals. (Right Weyland?)
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December 21, 2012
irt. [b]Indy John[/b]:
Quite possible that it will turn out the Engineers have a multi-layered society. I don't know what the markers of status are. You said it- bluee bloods were out of the sun, the less tan the better; being fat was a sign of being prosperous in the early modern period. Then things swung, as most jobs today aren't in the sun, being perpetually tan and thin is a sign of affluence as it shows one can afford tanning, exercise, and healthy diets.
I am a bit curious why they need to sacrifice one of their own to seed a planet with life. Thematically it makes sense, it brings to the fore several magical ideas. From a techie standpoint, it's a very weird detail. And weird details may have interesting explanations :)
The whole point of this is lost if you keep it a secret.