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spider's web next to control and was the door opened the only entrance ?

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oduodu

MemberXenomorphFeb-02-2013 12:42 PM
I am asking members to discuss whether or not that was a spiders web next to the control console that activates the holographic replay as well as if the door to the ampule room was the only way in or out of the ampule room. What is the significance of the spiders web? If there is spiders and worms then what other insects / lifeforms might there be ? - 12 degrees centigrade ? How does spiders and worms survive that ? What would a spider look like that gets the black goo on it ? What if that is what chased the engineers ? Scary !!! Also If the door David opened is the only way into the ampule room then that means whatever happened to them it means that if they are not in the ampule room then what removed from there Or did they leave ? But it must have through the door David opened if that is the only entrance . Was the green goo on the holographic control panel coming from whatever creature chased them. Would this creature have been able to open the door to the ampule room and kill the engineers ? Why is no ampules knocked over ? Furthermore Is there nanobots in the green stuff that David has between his fingers and what is impressive about it as David remarks ? Thank you
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zzplural

MemberOvomorphFeb-02-2013 3:11 PM
I did not notice any such spider's web. Perhaps you'd care to post a screen shot, or describe the location more precisely. We don't know if there was another way in or out of the ampule room. But that possibility certainly exists. It has, for example, been suggested that the xeno mural is a door to another chamber. There's always the possibility, of course, that the fleeing engineers holed up in the ampule chamber and made their exit when the coast was clear, leaving their dead chum behind. It's anybody's guess what they got up to in that room. They might have knocked a few urns over, and righted them. Or maybe not. Or they might have done something in there to prime the room as a booby trap. I've yet to be convinced of the presence of spiders. All we can say for sure is that worms were in the soil. Alien worms, of course, but one supposes that they need to eat organic material to survive. I suppose all manner of microscopic life could exist in the soil. [i]I'll just pre-empt the usual Aspergers crowd by mentioning that we didn't see the expedition taking or analysing soil samples. Why not? Because that would be bloody boring and ripe for editing out, that's why.[/i] We don't know much about the green slime on the door, but the possibilities have been discussed many times. When David fingers it, sparkling motes are moving around. It's advanced alien technology – we probably don't have a word for what it contains, because nothing remotely like it exists in our technology. My guess is that the sparkling motes, and the way that they interact with David's nasal sensors, are what he finds impressive.
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oduodu

MemberXenomorphFeb-02-2013 3:57 PM
Zz plural There is a shot when David works the holograph control pannel when you can see what appears to be a white sort of stuff that looks like cobwebs to me in the top left hand side of the screen. It seem to come from a place where the two walls are coming together (the walls seem to open be apart from each other a few inches at the top left hand side) . . Its not a traditional spiders web. I dunno but it seems like cobwebs . But maybe I am wrong. After viewing the movie I just thought by now someone would have notice another way in or out of the ampule room other then what they came in through. So then I assume the engineers left the ampule room by themselves but thaty whatever chased them tried to open the door but failed. As for the green goo point taken . Thanks for your reply .

Batchpool

MemberFacehuggerFeb-02-2013 5:57 PM
They're definitely cobwebs imo. That kinda gets me wondering about that xeno/fly hybrid at the beginning of the directors cut of Alien Resurrection. [img]http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/mcsnapshot/cobwebse_zps02514fd1.jpg[/img]

cuponator3000

MemberChestbursterFeb-02-2013 7:23 PM
I see it but sometimes dust can form into long strings like that right? but if it isnt dust it mioght not be a spider per say. some random alien bug that right now, isn't important at all. interesting discussion nonetheless

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Major Noob

MemberOvomorphFeb-02-2013 11:22 PM
I thought cob webs were produced by cobs.

oduodu

MemberXenomorphFeb-03-2013 3:40 AM
Major noob you have good point there. My English isn't that good . What exactly is a cob and how does it create webs ? Would it be able to exist in the pyrimids . Please assist !!! I always thought cobwebs were very old daddy long legs nest and webs that has been left un cleaned. See my dilemma ! Pease help.

caenorhabhditis

MemberOvomorphFeb-03-2013 5:40 AM
Noob! lol, cob is an old-english word for spider
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oduodu

MemberXenomorphFeb-03-2013 6:31 AM
Batchpool Thanks for posting that image !! To all Then we have worms and spiders that can live at minus 12 degrees celcius. Or Did the temperature suddenly change when they arrived ?

caenorhabhditis

MemberOvomorphFeb-03-2013 6:42 AM
maybe it was like the head room was a freezer room and thats why in addition to their exhaling changing the air condition the place warmed up from a low temperature (detected in the hall) and indicated by the mistyness of the room which is gone later) I work with worms and we can revive them from chilled and frozen samples maybe thats why when they walk in we see them start wriggling about where they stepped. remember though the webs may be very old and there from a time before the temperature dropped so the worms arent necessarily silk-type and may be totally not involved maybe some equivalent to a spider that is long gone (i dont know about their level of temp sensitivity) also other parts of the pyramid/dome have water warmed by design by sunlight the temp there wasnt mentioned.... so there may be parts of the dome where conditions for the equivalent of conventional insect life is ok
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caenorhabhditis

MemberOvomorphFeb-03-2013 7:07 AM
i'm curious though, and i think this has been 'hotly debated' before... (pun intended!) but i never weighed in re. what exactly they said or meant the temp was sposed to be as i know it (United Kingdom) minus twelve celsius, i'm told is the sort of cold you could work in for a while but if your beard was damp it'd gather frost, if you touched metal with a wet hand you might get stuck like the daft kid who has to go and lick the frozen lamp post you know the ones so the head room looked almost there if it was very dry (lack of frost) but the hall didnt seem right so how do they explain that? beyond the martian piss factor clearly any fluid they saw wasnt water or was as indicated tainted by something with a much lower freezing temp than minus 20'C
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caenorhabhditis

MemberOvomorphFeb-03-2013 7:14 AM
leaking/run-off fuel? or is it organic
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oduodu

MemberXenomorphFeb-03-2013 8:01 AM

caenorhabhditis

Thanks for that. So it’s not clear then whether the source of the webs are still alive or not . But that the worms were still alive outside the temple seems clear. So I guess they can survive there even in a somewhat frozen state...

No clarity on the entrance and the green goo is high tech engineer technology that we cannot understand at this point.

Thanks all

zzplural

MemberOvomorphFeb-03-2013 12:28 PM
I just looked at the door-opening scene again, and the 'web' does bear some resemblance to a spider's web – you can see it moving gently in the light breeze in the tunnel. However, it's not necessarily a spider's web: There are also thin strands of goo in that shot, and it could be that. If, on the other hand, it is something spun from a small creature, it might be spider-like in appearance, or it could take some other form. There are plenty of silk-spinning creatures on our own planet that aren't spiders. Given the presence of worm-like creatures, having small insect-like creatures on LV-223 doesn't sound far-fetched.
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Major Noob

MemberOvomorphFeb-03-2013 3:16 PM
Remember too that conditions in the dome are not necessarily what they were millennia before. It may well have been warmer when everything was up and running. And while possibly far-fetched in terms of story detail, I do kind of like the idea of rogue nano things from the green goo forming odd structures outside of the material they're suspended in. Creepy. I think what we saw between David's fingers were active particles of information or even energy or both.

cuponator3000

MemberChestbursterFeb-03-2013 4:51 PM
ya particles of information. i always thought that the holgram was showing up in that goo because it is visible in a maybe that certain substance or just visible in a substance because technology was that advanced for them

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zzplural

MemberOvomorphFeb-04-2013 6:12 AM
Do the sparkling motes in the door slime have anything in common with the sparkling motes that David observed in his fingertip drop of black goo, I wonder? I imagine that the nearest thing that would be familiar to us is a viral particle - in effect a biological code packed into a small volume with the ability to corrupt a host cell and hijack its cellular 'machinery' for its own purposes. However, since the motes are far bigger than any kind of virus that we know about (since they are clearly visible to the eye), they either pack a whole lot of code, or they have some additional capability. The latter, I think, since they are also seen to be in motion. Possibly under their own power, like sperm, perhaps. I'd like to see one under a microscope!
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oduodu

MemberXenomorphFeb-04-2013 12:47 PM
Zzplural Thanks for that So that's what you call it. Sparkling Motes !! Nicely spoTted. Major noob I do kind of like the idea of rogue nano things from the green goo forming odd structures outside of the material they're suspended in. I like !!!
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