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Ruhaniya
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphJul-27-2013 2:53 AMThis thing is very interesting with the 34 years before Prometheus a Discovery of the alien signal from LV 426. I miss the fact that in Alien the signal was like a newly discovered transmission that they had to investigate. Personally I feel like the pilot from Alien was from the future. There must be more information known to Weyland corps that change the designation from the signals source to LV 223. They should have sent Probes instead to LV 426. By the time Earth or the outer colonies get the messages from Prometheus back to Earth, Shaw would of had plenty of time to get where ever? Will Paradise follow Shaw on her way? or follow an intercept mission to catch up to her? Having traveled great distances through wormholes is a time traveling element that might be up for Paradise. Any thoughts on Potentials?
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Fleshvessel
MemberOvomorphJul-27-2013 8:19 AMWhile I'm positive that paradise will follow David and Shaw to the Engineer's homeworld (or at least start off that way) I think a cool secondary story could see a team sent out to LV 223 to find out what happened to Weyland.
I sort of hope this is the case as I would love to see more of the Deacon! I know they have promised to drift even further from the original, but the Deacon is hardly classic.
I need to know what the adult version looks like. The Deacon is actually my favourite embodiment so far and i hope at least a small part of the sequel follows him.
Also i have a pretty serious mancrush on Mr.Fassbender so, really, it could be 2 hours of him reciting chocolate chip cookie recipes in that British Accent and I would be in.
Don't tell my wife.
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Ruhaniya
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphJul-27-2013 2:31 PM@ Fleshvessel. It's our secret...cookies indeed! That secondary mission to LV 223 is a must cause those temple thingys go way down there. It would be interesting to see how big the Deacon gets and I'm sure it would be pretty hungry by the time the rescue team got there. Changing it's name from Deacon to Bacon Munchy
BigDave
MemberDeaconJul-29-2013 9:09 AMWell yes this is going to lead to a in continuity problem...
You see in Alien the company knew about the signal and had some idea about what could lie there and sent the Nostromo to investigate.. And as Ash hinted the company wanted to bring back the organism.
Now we set off prior to that with Prometheus and indeed the Company in that timeline had encountered a Alien signal from LV 426....
Why would they not have sent Prometheus to investigate LV 426 first?
Most likely because Shaw and Holloways start maps pointed to LV 223 or maybe when they are in that system they find that Lv 223 is more habitable than LV 426 and its a case of investigate it first.
But surely David would known about the signal that Weyland Corp had found, and maybe he could even translate it to a degree if indeed the Engineers and Space Jockey are all the same race.
If so well we cant rule out that David could go to LV 426 instead of Paradise....
If not well we have to wonder why the company may not have sent any exploration missions to LV 426 after Prometheus failed mission to return from LV 223.
And indeed by the time Nostromo got the order to investigate LV 426, then surely the company would have sent out more missions to LV 223 to find out what became of Prometheus and the head of Weyland Corp.....
Not to mention at the time Nostromo got that order, surely that ship or the company would have got hold of Shaws SOS.
So from end of Prometheus to Alien there is a lot of things that need tidying up.
We have to assume that some event occurs between those timelines in which there is nothing left on LV 223 for Weyland to Salvage and thus the only option left is whats left on LV426.
As why would you want to go to a Baron World in hope of finding something that is hinted in the Alien SOS, when you could go back to LV223 after finding Shaws SOS to investigate what happened on LV 223.
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malex234
MemberOvomorphJul-29-2013 6:36 PMI agree there is a lot of uncertainty concerning who knew what and when relating to the signal from LV-426. In the Peter Weyland files of the special features of the Blu Ray of Prometheus, there is a memo beside the Quiet Eye video which hints that the existence of the signal was known at least to Peter Weyland prior to the departure for LV-223. However, in the memo I'm referring to Weyland states that "only David will know about 426, and will ensure that the rest of the crew- including Meredith - learn nothing about the transmission we've discovered until the time is right." I'm of the impression that the existence of the LV-426 signal was top secret and information was to be given out strictly on a "need to know" basis. The whole LV-223 mission has the air of secrecy about it. In our first view of the Prometheus we are greeted with the caption "Destination Undisclosed." I wonder if anyone on Earth knew exactly where Prometheus was headed. Aside from Shaw, Holloway, David and Vickers, none of the crew had any idea of the nature of the mission they were on until the briefing. Given all this nondisclosure, it is possible that no one with the authority to act has any knowledge of the signal after Weyland's death. Weyland describes the signal in the memo as "faint, almost imperceptible." Thus, it may be that only years later the company "discovers" the signal through deep space exploration, or through hacking into Peter Weyland's personal computer.
As to why Prometheus went to LV-223 first, the memo indicates that the plan was to go there first and then go to LV-426. Apparently Weyland had translated the signal enough to know that there was potential danger on LV-426, as the memo states "there may be great risk awaiting us on the path to even greater reward." I suppose it is remaining to be seen if David is still obligated by his directive to go on to LV-426, or if he is truly free by virtue of Weyland's death.
BigDave
MemberDeaconJul-30-2013 10:31 AMYep thats the file i was referring to, well i based my post off.
And that David has some knowledge and Weyland at least of a signal from the same area of space, and it was logical to first check out LV 223 and if that proves fruitless to then check out LV 426.
Maybe this means after Prometheus and when David leaves LV 223 as we see at the end of the movie, he some how finds more info about LV 426 and sends information to the Company.
We have to remember once Shaw is in Stasis David would be free to go where ever he wants...
Also Originally Spaights draft was set on LV 426 and Lindeloffs was called Paradise....
I do hope they are not going to show that LV 426 is Paradise and thus the Homeworld..... i doubt it would be though.
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Yanek55
MemberOvomorphAug-05-2013 11:52 PMWhat if a second crew was sent to LV223 and found that it was indeed a R&D facility for WMDs...and a correlation then made to the signal from LV426, thus the desire of the weapons division to obtain samples to weaponize for themselves in Alien & Aliens.
muddy
MemberOvomorphAug-12-2013 9:39 PMdont'cha love the fact that the prometheus looks a LOT spiffier & more advanced in design than the nostromo?
Ruhaniya
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphSep-15-2013 4:02 PMAgreeed Spiffer! LOL The next ships they give us should be chromed out Spifferest. Yanek great idea! That correlation might have something of the signal source directed from LV 426 to Lv 223. Perhaps Shaw doesn't have control over David and he decides to go somewhere else.
@ malex234 FOR Sure David is on a MISSION remember he is a personified Lawrence of Arabia. He's got black goo on his mind.
@BIG DAVE...best 'So from end of Prometheus to Alien there is a lot of things that need tidying up.'! Who knows how deep the LV sector goes down the rabbit hole?
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