Ancient Engineer Gods on Paradise in Prometheus 2?

There had better be some answers. Film-makers fail to comprehend the fact that people want answers. For some reason, they think we want more questions. No! Bad screenwriters! Go to your room!

God, that's beautiful! I truly hope to see something along those lines. Agreed that Paradise has already or will be devastated by Xeno-type creatures. Perhaps even by the goo Shaw and David may or may not be carrying. (Would kill to see a few original Xenos, maybe a mature Deacon.) That piece is f***ing brilliant! Thanks for sharing!

Now thats what I am talking about huge statues, giant temples, pyramids and yes xeno statues that are so strange and weird. Thats Paradise btw I am glad that matrix garbage isn't popping up any time soon get rid of it, not original just old. I have read somewhere that some Alien dorks think that this franchise isnt original....Yeah right!

Poseidon or Enki would work as maybe a father of mankind and other worlds because of water is needed for life.

I have read somewhere that some ancient astronauts dorks think that they theory is so original, but the truth is that it was stolen from the writings of Howard Phillips Lovecraft.

Back to topic Yes!!! I want a very Gigeresque looking God figure, Something more powerful and frightening than the Engineers. But even if that does not happen I will not feel disappointed, because without doubt Ridley Scott has a very good eye to choose the designs.

@Chris I’d love to see the engineer’s homeworld being overrun by xenomorphs; that Shaw and David arrive in a devastated no man’s land and that it has lots of references and clues about the series written all over it. Btw, good job on the Godzilla-forum. Ånnunaki50 Matrix garbage? That film had some of the most original storylines ever so I don’t think it’s qualified as a heap of dung. But I DO agree that it wouldn’t fit in this universe. Alien dorks…no comment. Without the alien-fanbase there wouldn’t be a Prometheus-movie. Prometheus isn’t original. What is so special about this movie that we haven’t already seen in others?

In a recent press conference for Ridley's upcoming film The Counselor, Ridley was asked on the status of Prometheus 2, he said "...we're writing Prometheus right now, Prometheus 2." So repeating what Noomi said a while back but it's from Ridley's mouth at least.

That's a fantastic piece of artwork! I love it!

Don't let some people get under your skin necronom. Be cool...say bitch be cool! Tell that m************** bitch to chill!

Haha yeah I know, I should. But knowing my luck i'd probably get banned from the site.

I think Paradise will be quite similar to earth, but possibly a little post apocalyptic. I think it would be cool if there were monuments and various structures that give a nod to possible earth influences such as a ‘Xeno of Liberty’ or a ‘Leaning Tower of Deacon’.

Chris Most definitely a hierachy and definitely a very powerful god liike being will be aware of happenings on the planet. But wil it reveal itself to david and shaw and for what reason ? If paradise is now hell then maybe this entity maybe like q in star trek could possibly assist shaw and david purely out " because I can and I want to show my power" Main thing; what will be the motivation of this entity becaise this will decide what the hierarchy looks like .

I really dont mean dorks as in all of you guys but there are people that get so offended by any harsh comment or criticism or opinion. No AA theory wasnt started because of HP Lovecraft thats just you lashing out because of my Alien dork comment. I take back alot of what I said earlier I dont want to burn bridges here I got a little too egomaniacal about Prometheus and Im sorry. Lets get back to being fans Necronom 4 I really apologise I couldnt see your vision and now I am reconsidering it.

Im too dang passionate about what i believe in and its hard sometimes to see another perons vision at times for me.

Youtube is like a minefield of negative comments and "experts". I got used to it and accidently brought it here.

Hey Anu, I can't speak for Necronom4, but I think it shows some class to come back and acknowledge when you may be 'out of line.' It is your conscience which sets you apart from the pack there. @Necronom- i hope you know we love ya man!! I make a debate out of anything and everything; my wife hates it. I need to remember that not everyone enjoys 'getting it on' like this. I too love this movie a scary amount and may have been guilty of stepping on some toes in the past. Please realize this is a lack of tact on my part, and not a commentary on the validity of your points. (I just really love to debate!!) I definitely enjoy your threads man- whether or not i agree is irrelevant. I think we are all just jonesing for some news.

I just want to reiterate- F*** ME, THAT'S BEAUTIFUL!! My compliments to whoever came up with that.

@Gimmeafacehug, cheers! Glad you like it. :) As for the topic, I think seeing an Engineer homeworld overrun by Xenomorphs would be incredible, but I expect if we can gauge the sequel to be anything like the first, then I'd say [i]Paradise[/i] will be a forgotten wasteland - leaving being monuments and records of the Engineer's existence there. When I saw this piece of artwork, I immediately thought of an ancient monument... that and the Alien Queen's head crest. I think Shaw and David (if they make it to "Paradise") will encounter a barren world, once a "Paradise", sure, until the Xenomorph infestation broke loose - forcing the Engineers to re-locate. Either that or they discover that indeed the Xenomorphs were on the same level as their "Gods", and like Biblical scripture describes the war between Heaven and Hell, the same fate fell upon the Engineer races and the Xenomorphs. Don't want to get too ahead of myself, since my imagination can run wild, and it's far too late to be doing so, hahaha. @Anunnaki50 - I appreciate you acknowledging your actions, but perhaps in the future, read over your post prior to hitting the "ADD REPLY" button, and think if what you're posting could be interpreted as offensive or not. But I'm happy to see no harm was done and everyone's remaining on good terms. :) But okay, back on topic - what do you [i]Alien Dorks[/i] think of my ideas? ;) Hahaha

I dont own any smartphone (I have a dumbphone) so I sit in front of my PC its all I got for now. I really dont want to hurt anyone because otherwise I couldnt talk about this awesome movie and all the people I know hate talking about it so this place is my escape.

Don't feel bad Annunaki. I've stepped on so many people's toes on this site because of this film, so I don't feel at all like lecturing someone. And it sucks that that the people you know don't like talking about Prometheus. same here... Btw Fleshvessel, I hope you and I are cool and that there's no hard feelings between us. you're right when you say it's classy when someone admits that they were out of line.

@Gimmeafacehug- Of course. You guys are my home away from home. (And sometimes on the toilet.) :) As for Chris' ideas- i agree, what a beautiful resemblance with the Queen in Aliens. Would be a nice nod to see something similar in the film. Also, some depictions (or live-action, of course) of Xeno vs Engineer massive scale outbreak would be just fine with me. I also agree with Anu, in that a certain style and influence was set in the first film (Pyramids, Sumerian influence, statues, etc.) and i would like to see a Paradise that is in keeping with this. I know this may be a silly question, but do you think David and Shaw have a 'full payload' on their Juggernaut as well? Is the possibility of them infecting Paradise a realistic one?

I going to try to post a decent reply: the way I see it: The xenomorphs are gods because: * they are the perfect natural killing machine, they have acid for blood, razorsharp teeth and claws, a deadly tail etc. *They are blindingly fast and deadly from the get-go. *It only takes hours for them to fully mature. Why the engineers are gods: *They have all this technology. *They are physically strong as well. *they have conquered and seeded/ terraformed worlds. What I want to see in Prometheus 2: I want to see a ‘theme’ of nature vs mankind. Like, the engineers discovered the xenomorph species (eggs) somewhere in space, they tried to make a bio-weapon out of it but it turned on them, infesting their home planet…Then we show up and we are baffled by the destruction of this once great civilization and we get to battle a few remnants of the xenomorph/engineer hybrids and maybe we even get to meet a friendly engineer…maybe. Anyways, I still wanted to see the elephant getting facehugged and what came out of it but oh well… Lesson learned: don’t screw with nature because it will always bite you in the *ss! And Fleshvessel: bringing the infestation to them is even better. There goes another species.  Again, this all contributes to the ‘we humans-are-ruining-the-planet-and-even-the-universe-thingy’-theme. And there are definitely more engineers with different clothing and a higher social status...like a medicine-man.

That artwork is incredible & spot on! Very Alien Queen headpiece. Let your imagination run riot Chris, this site was your creation, so feel free!! :-) Yeah, I too would love to see Paradise overrun & reduced to a wasteland of monuments etc. How cool would it be to have some engy v morb battle scenes though, maybe even in flashback? I've always thought there is the possibility that David could cause the extinction of the homeworld, whether by accident or design. He's always had his own agenda & most definitely will be a lynchpin of sorts. ps glad everyone is on speaking terms again, you guys rock!

@Anunnaki and Fleshvessel. Thank you to you both and respect is due to you! I can be too touchy and sensetive at times, and I've been guilty of disrespecting peoples comments in the past, which I regret! So please don't feel bad Anunnaki. I apologise also! I consider everone on this site a friend of sorts! We all share a common interest with one another, Alien and Prometheus. So lets all get back to being friends and discussing our favourite topic!...

@Anunnaki, Attacks the views of people, not the people itself, because that way you are demonstrating a lack of arguments, nothing more. The passion is not generated because you love this theory, is generated because you can not defend your position and then you get angry. I said it before and I'll say it again; less passion and more arguments. In fact I never lose control of my emotions because it's best to remain calm. I don't feel offended btw, don't worry, I'm just expressing my disagreement with your thoughts, that's all.

Back to the topic, the image looks like a priest or some kind of chamán :p

Chris, All I can say about this artwork is gimme more! This is exactly what I am hoping to see in P2! Also, good to see you all respectful of differing opinions, as that is a true sign of intelligent life forms. It is also why I enjoy the discussion of some very creative ideas & interpretations on this site. It is in the spirit of this site to explore all ideas with respect to the person posting. Cheers!

@Chris. You wrote "I also have a sneaking suspicion that Paradise will either fall prey to a Xenomorph infestation, or will already be overrun by the time Shaw and David arrive (assuming they do), leaving only monuments of the potential Engineer Gods, like seen above. Or something possibly similar." I would prefer to see the Giger Alien infestation rather than the monument thingy, because the monument thingy would be quite dull in terms of entertainment for the masses. It would just be Shaw and David's head observing and scrutinizing a bunch of statues. One thing is for certain, Ridley and Fox will definitely not create a film that just appeals to the hardcore fans of the Alien/Prometheus universe, it will be something that appeals to the masses, unfortunately! @Shambhala. Quote, "I said it before and I'll say it again; less passion and more arguments." I disagree buddy. There is nothing wrong with a bit of passion, you can be passionate about something without being disrespectful. For example, when i'm having a pint with my dad at the pub, and we get talking to a few lads at the bar, I have to tell him to calm down because he gets so worked up when someone disagrees with him about a subject he is passionate about (Football and Manchester United.) He's WAY TOO passionate about it! And then he has a go at me for telling him to calm down hahah. But then I just tell him that if he carries on i'll knock him out. So he stops. We are currently not on speaking terms, which is very common with us! So what i'm trying to say is, that you can be passionate about something, disagree with somebody, but still be respectful. Unless you're a politician

@Necronom 4, One thing is the love that someone feels for Prometheus, and another is when you hold a position based on a theory, because then I can come here to refute that, but what you should not do is exploit. That just shows that you can not defend your premise with arguments and you prefer to make a tantrum, or say expletives rather than refute what the person is saying. But please, let's not mix apples and oranges, because sometimes the passion (not in all cases of course) is nothing more than an excuse to be an idiot. I've been listening to the same speech over and over again, is almost cartoonish, and If you do not agree with an opinion, then you argue, But let's put aside childish things, because I assume that most of us are adults.

Yes but where do you draw the line between an attack on the opinion, or an attack on the person who's posting the opinion? After all, your opinion is a part of you, It is not just your opinion, it is what you believe. I'm passionate about ALIEN and if anybody says anything negative about it, I feel defensive! But I have learnt to stop for a moment and calm down. You have to! We are on a site where, if you get TOO passionate, to the point where it turns personal, you are likely to get banned from the site. You have to follow the rules or face the consequences. I like coming to this site, so I try to obide by the rules. It's all about self control. Everyone on the planet can only be pushed so far before they snap! We are human. We are Imperfect! We make mistakes! That's what P2 should be about.

No, the fact that I have an opinion different from yours, does not mean you have the right to come here and say bad words to me. I repeat, do not mix apples and oranges. Use arguments, not insults. If you want to show class, go ahead.

@Shambs. That's what i'm trying to say. Wait...now i'm confussed hahaha

Alright Necro, don't worry, I didn't not come here to make war, or least not a personal war :p I am a fan as you all, so I'll turn the page and this will be my last reply off topic in this thread XD

Right I know now. What i'm trying to say is. I'll give you an example: My dear old dad (sarcasm) thinks that, if you can't see eye to eye with somebody then you are destined to never get along. I disagree! It all depends on what kind of person you are! If you're a very serious person, who is opinionated, you will make enemies of those who disagree with your opinion. On the other hand, if you're someone that realises that everyone is different and the world would be a dull place if everyone was the same and had the same opinions, you are bound to be more tolerant of somebody who disagrees with you. A negative remark from a person whome you don't know, is a personal attack. You have to KNOW somebody before you can judge whether or not it is just a bit of banter or an attack. My dear old dad views everything as an attack and there are a lot of people like him in the world. He also doesn't have a sense of humour which is also a problem! Reminds me of that line in Prometheus "Doesn't everyone want their parents...... But that's another story Haha

I think we should see lots of ruins, maybe some Gigerish and we see some more of the cullture of the Engineers. But i dont want the place to be over run with Xenos or Engineers.... Maybe there are very little left of the Engineers, maybe they befell due to the Xeno and they explain this to Shaw and David. I do think the Engineers or Elders or what ever would teach them a lot but then they would have a sinister plot for Shaw.... But David then unleashes hell on them and its from this we see a outbreak of something related to the Xeno but not a traditional one. Just enough clues to allow us to connect the dots...

Hi BigDave, great to see you! I agree that it would be great to see a Gigerish environment in P2. However, we all expect it to go a certain way, ie 'Shaw and Davids head arriving on the engineers homeworld.... Personally, I would like to see it deviate away from what we expect. I'm not entirely sure that I would like to see Shaw and David land on Heaven/Hell in a juggernaut and come across some friendly engineers, it would be too much like Avatar for my liking. I'd even go as far as not showing where or what happened to Shaw and David atall. Leave it a mistery. Did they make it to Paradise? If so, What did they find? Imo, the film should focus on another group, going to a distant, already colonized Weyland Yutani planet, where they discover ruins of an ancient engineer civilization.

I don t want to die and do not see PARADISE,PLEASE FOX. RELEASE PARADISE MORE QUICK.

@Necronom 4 Well i think it would be great idea but then your idea could be implemented just as the Sacrificial Scene.... By that i think the idea is for David to take Shaw to the Engineers Home World but he would have his own Agenda... We could see Shaw arrive and see a place in semi ruin, and see great monuments or partial ones, see more Murals and Fresco's... We dont have to have Engineers meet them and go through a explanation of their History, could do but maybe most of it could be shown as David interprets and reads some Manuscripts and Tablets found on Paradise, like the Sumerian ones, and as David goes on to explain to Shaw what he reads... We cut to various cut scenes showing us, just as the Sacrificial Engineer scene was, where it can be used to show us the Engineer Culture and History maybe show us what Paradise was once like, maybe show us Engineers visiting worlds they seeded and teaching them things. This would be the best way to show us the Engineers.... But also dont forget all bets are off once Shaw has to be put into Cryo Sleep, as we have to assume thats the only way she can make it, and only David would know how long the journey would take and he could tell Shaw anything he wants so that she has to face the fact she has to get into the Cryo Pods or face a slow death of starvation etc... But no soon as she has, well David can do what he wants, go where he wants and do what he wants with Shaw also.... Maybe he may check out LV 426.... maybe he could get Shaw Face Hugged, with a Queen Chest Buster? Then pop her back into Cryo Sleep and she could be none the wiser just as Ripley was in Alien 3.... and i say Queen because well it appears they take longer to gestate inside than the Drones do, again see Alien 3. This could give a whole new meaning to the kind of hell that Ridley was on about.... In fact these things i am on about are all part of my draft i worked on its bits but never put together, i pondered David takes her to LV 426 and gets a specimen to face hug Shaw and then take her to Paradise, where i envisioned the Engineers detected something inside of her and Shaw the Xeno... and it reminded them of the Deacon they tried to create and they cut it out of Shaw.... Finally they have their Deacon so they thought..... and well the Queen is then released by David from a Stasis chamber and it unleash hell on the remainder of the Engineers.... I was going to maybe go further to suggest maybe David had set off the SOS on the Derelict... or at very least he caused a containment breach to allow the Eggs to become accessible.... kind of like he forgot to close the door after he got a Face Huger for Shaw... a door which Kane unfortunately was able to walk into.... But the Prometheus Viral site hinted that Weyland Industries was aware of a signal from LV 426, but that does not mean David could have gone there after and left the door open..... I would had a lot of other ideas like have the end of the movie lead to a part 3 where we would find out more about Weyland Yutani Merger and the end of Part 3 would see a board room meeting were they give Ash his orders as he prepares for his mission to LV 426 on the Nostramo.

I'd like to see a version of @Necronom 4 of this hypothetical god