Ripley's Return?
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MemberNeomorphOctober 10, 20131726 Views22 RepliesAs some of you may know by now, I like to come up with strange idea's. Pushing the whole Matrixy thingy to one side for the moment, I have another idea which may just appeal to the masses.
We have all heard that Morse (Danny Webb) from Alien 3, MIGHT be making an appearance in P2. If indead it is more than just a rumour, what role will he play?
My idea will involve the return of Helen Ripley and maybe some of the other characters from the ALIEN universe.
Imagine this. At the beginning of P2, we see someone drifting in and out of consciousness. We see a blurry image of Morse standing over the patient. He is dressed in a white doctors uniform. We eventually see that the patient is infact Ripley. How could this be? I hear you all shout.
I got this idea from Fleshvessel, when he jokingly made a comment on my Prometheus Awakened thread. He said "I wouldn't mind if Alien Resserection had all been a nightmare." I can't argue with that! so;
What if, Alien 3 and Alien 4 was all a bad dream, from Ripley's perspective? This would mean that, on her voyage home from LV 426, onboard the Sulaco, she fell into a sort of coma. She, Hicks and Newt get picked up by a rescue team, and she gets taken to a hospital ward where she is looked after. All of the characters from Alien 3 and Alien 4 are actually medical personel who are treating her. She gets glipses of all these characters whilst she is drifting in and out of consciousness, therefore, they become characters in her nightmare.
She eventually recovers and is persuaded to accompany a team to a distant planet, where the company believe Shaw and David are. Of course, this would take place after the events of ALIENS, so Shaw and David would have been in cryo sleep onboard the juggernaut, for almost a century.
If you like the idea, please feel free to add to it in any way.
The poster was good though!
October 10, 2013
I don’t know what everyone else’s perception of time is, but I would think that to the engineers a century here and there is a mere drop in the ocean, when compared to the time it possibly takes to engineer planets. I say this with special regard to Ripley.
We know the “Company “ are prepared to lie to anyone to get what they want.
Lets say that somewhere, some time between Alien and Aliens Ripley had been cloned. By the time we get to Alien3, Bishop the designer already knew Ripley was carrying a magnificent specimen. Ripley landing on an isolated prison planet may have been planned. Lets face it, a perfect location where to put an alien and who would know? Just like the Nostromo.
Keeping to the sleep idea, by the time Alien Resurrection comes along Ripley seems to have some sort of ESP connection to the queen. Suppose that same connection were to occur between clones. So, could we have another Ripley somewhere who thinks she has dreamed the life of the Ripley we know.
There are gaps in the whole alien timeline whereby cloning could have gone on and then people gone into hyper sleep to come back later.
When we get to Shaw and David, what we do not know is where in time will they will be.
October 10, 2013
The only other possibility I can think of for now, is that Paradise happens after Alien Resurrection, and that something happens to Shaw and David at the start of their journey that instigates Alien. That way their story forms the beginning and the end of the Ripley /alien saga
October 11, 2013
Personally I would like to see a xeno queen put Ripley on trial for acts of attempted genocide against xeno’s. Maybe this is where the dream idea could go. It is the engineers technology being used to put forward the case for the prosecution by accessing Ripley’s memories and dreams. Then we can have Shaw coming to the rescue shouting “Get away from her you bitch!”
October 11, 2013
I think what pisses me off the most about A4 is that it finished more or less by just deserting Ripley. I never felt that there was any closure on her character. It would be good to bring her back if they could at least give her a good finale.
I wonder what the chances would be of having Call playing against David?
October 11, 2013
The one thing that has'nt been done is to turn her into a goddam robot, but that would really be scraping the barrel of desperation.
October 11, 2013
You can take this with a pinch of salt if you like, but I do remember hearing about a dream idea just before A3 was released. Back then the theory I heard was that 3 was to be a dream and 4 a resolver. If you can at all go through the quadrilogy of Alien, particularly the making of Alien DVDs, there are a couple of references to the dream idea. Unfortunately the DVDs don't really back up my claim because of when they were produced and the context of how they are put together. What I have seen about Prometheus, and comparing back to the whole A1 to A4 saga leads me to believe Ridley is following a rough story line idea that pre dates A3. Anyhow, that's my take on things, but I do believe the dream idea does hold a lot of water. I just wish I could find an article or something from way back, just to prove my point.
