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Plotholes? I think not.

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The1PerfectOrganism

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To answer some of the so called "plotholes" to begin with unanswered questions and things left up to speculation aren't plotholes. There is only one plothole in Prometheus and it's David's ladder which no-one seemed to gripe about anyway. Plotholes are contradictions within the Plot itself. For instance, one thing that is brought up often. Fitfield and Milburn getting lost. One- They can't use the map as it's connected to the digital map on the Prometheus vessel, which because of the storm outside they couldn't connect to, just like when they talked with Janek they kept cutting out transmission. Two- They had no-where to go so they can't be lost, they only had the option of either going outside (Into instant death)or go round in circles. Another may be the claim that the Black DNA manipulation liquid (BDML) is inconsistent, not true in the beginning it destroys life to create life (The premise of the film and the Alien series) it varies based upon the life-form and method but it's always done the same thing. There are a few inconsistencies such as gloves etc. But no major plot holes that any other film doesn't have, Alien has actually more plot holes than Prometheus. Also you must take into consideration that although it's based in a Science-Fiction setting, the Engineers and the like are very much fantasy. Oh and the DNA match, plenty of creatures on Earth have the same base DNA as us but the fact that the Engineer does that is provably from another planet but the link proves they come from us. And Holloway whenever he takes off his helmet sees the air is breathable, what he doesn't detect is the change in atmosphere it causes (This is why the Engineers wear helmets) releasing the BDML and the storm triggering the horrific events afterwards. If you need anymore questions answered, please reply, I am happy to answer. I feel this is a very underrated film due to people not sitting and thinking for a minute, hopefully in the future people will see this.
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Milburn was the one who touched the "snake", and he was arrogant as we seen before, also clearly wanted to impress Fitfield forgoing common sense. On the hieroglyphics, they said they had samples all from different civilisations on Earth. He likely learned them all. A combination of these was probably the Engineer language, plus David would've said he couldn't read it if he couldn't. For a corporation that has always been known as not-giving-a-crap about employees? No. Holloway's a selfish piece of (Swears) lol, what do you want me to say? They didn't seem that bothered about discovering the S.J in Alien, maybe they've discovered structures on other planets before and I'd say so as Holloway says "Just another tomb."
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Well. I tried signing up last year, but the forum didn't like my email t'ill recently. I apologise if I appear rude but I've wanted to discuss this for a while now. I do think people in general need to use their "headmeat" more though. xD
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On the hieroglyphics, they said they had samples all from different civilisations on Earth. He likely learned them all. A combination of these was probably the Engineer language, plus David would've said he couldn't read it if he couldn't. probably, aha, but we don't know that do we? Holloway's a selfish piece of (Swears) lol, what do you want me to say? They didn't seem that bothered about discovering the S.J in Alien, maybe they've discovered structures on other planets before and I'd say so as Holloway says "Just another tomb. Did you see the look on Kane's face when he climbed atop the fossilized space jockey? They were all very much surprised and they didn't have time to care about it too long because one of the crew members got facehugged.
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besides the SJ was dead, what should they have done, build a camp fire around it? No, they researched the ship till everything went wrong...
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Where the h*ll is Custodian when you need him...
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Well he'd have need to have learnt SOMETHING to read it so... Report it? Look at it for more than five minutes? It doesn't matter really but Holloway's line "Just another Tomb." Proves that he has seen most of this before and is disappointed by both this and that they are apparently dead.
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I love the idea of them making a campfire around the S.J though.
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Yes and that stupid line really pisses me off. Because now we have a Weyland employee who says they knew somethingg about the Sj's, wheras in Aliens That same company, although it merged with yutani, couldn't believe a word of what Ripley was saying. If that's not a plot hole, then I don't know what is...
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Your mistake is thinking anyone in W-Y is genuine.
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Not to brag or anything but I got 18/20 for 'film analysis' at university for a movie that wasn't even up my ally (Vera Drake) , so this is the last thing I'm posting on this thread. Take care man, but I'm not arguing with someone who thinks this piece of sh*t movie is in the same league as Alien. this is corporal Gimm-e of the prometheus forum, signing off
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I really don't think it's anywhere even near on the same level of quality of Alien, I just think it's unfairly treated because in some respects it's better than Aliens. No need to swear, you're clearly angry and seeing as you're not a Prometheus fanatic I don't see why if you dislike it you're here in the first place. I don't care how much you got for film analysis, I'm a professor in both art and English literature but it has no relevance to this discussion. See ya, and likewise.
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No its clearly not on the same level as alien. The1 your digging a bigger hole lol. You have muddled things up. Fifield and milburn both say they are going straight back to the ship. They then set off BEFORE the others there is NO STORM outside at this point so all you said is basically false they dont have no were to go and the signal is perfect! Its like 2 minutes to the outside and there freaked out do you really think they wont make it with a 3d map rtc. ! Its like : left right straght on left and there out type thing look at the maps!

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I suspect we will find out that Weyland had uncovered an artifact or something to that affect n Earth or another planet that gave him a clue as to what he might find/who they were. All that he was missing is where to find them. Yes David is studying the language but he seems to know what to zero in on which indicates some idea of what the language might be. He also goes off and investigtes on his own, suggesting once again a mission within the mission. Throw is that he also seemed to have some idea re what was in the urns. Is he super intelligent or just very well briefed? Will Paradise show a younger Weyland finding something?
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As I stated they went the other way, I don't know why perhaps they were flustered by the dead body but they did. That direction lead towards the pile of dead bodies. They probably thought there was another exit. In the two minutes it took them to realise this, it was too late to go outside.
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Very good hypothesis mirobot, I definitely hope Paradise will explore more of that History and perhaps be a more literal rather than visual film for those people whom had problems with Prometheus.
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Lol ok yer your a typical lover make it all up and not watch the actual movie and realise basic problems with its logic just dont add up. You can keep ignoring the facts if you like - just seems a bit pointless not going by whats in the actual film - might as well stair at a wall and make up the story totally :p . Professor lol thats the funniest thing I heard in ages. I saw an interesting thing the other day about lovers of prometheus loving it because they WOULD do all the things the crew did in the the film - kinda says allot! :)

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People interepet a movie or book based on their own views/beleifes etc. I think its great that different people see different things and are prepared to share them. It makes you look at it from a different angle. Whilst we wait for next two instalments all we can do is specualte on which way it may go. But when we look back a lot of the things that do not make sense in movie one will as the thread lines develop. I think the mission was sham, an excuse to go there. The specialists had not even met before going on board, its like it did not really matter. Weyland was running things behind the scences with his own agenda and David and his mercs were his arms and legs. The other guys were a smoke screen.
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Sounds like you're the one in denial not me, because I have explained my viewpoint and you have yet to refute it successfully. It's really only a title, Professor, I did a B-tech national diploma of 7 years to get that title. Well, fifteen actually for both art and English Literature. Whether you believe me or not makes no difference to me. If you intention is to insult me, which it obviously is, I must point out that your grammar and refutation of my opinion is laughable at best. I will not be replying to you further in future due to your lack of ability to follow basic logic and your unfortunate need to resort to insults whenever you don't have a leg to stand on. Sorry to be negative, but this argument was over three replies ago.
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Excellent mirobot, the most productive reply in this thread so far.
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so let me see your idea is fifield and milburn walk off in the wrong direction even though its obvious which way to go then don\\\'t bother to check there 3d maps. For god knows how long. Ignore janeks warnings of the storm...lol im in the floor laughing...its so true what I said...grammer attack so high school seriously 15 16 no? Probably should explain I dont totally hate this film the over all idea is amazing its just so disappointing the way it ended up. Im actually not against the idea of David learning the language as if engineers visited ancient cultures and spoke and left artifacts with engineer language on (like we see in shaws notes on website) then some of these languages maybe could of adopted engineer language and indeed you could get the basics down enough to launch into working out their language if u were david. Its far fetched and im pretty sure the film does not cover this but that is actually logical many other parts are not.

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