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MemberOvomorphMar-07-2014 2:23 AMThis is derived from the egg morf thoery. For those of you who haven't heard of the egg morf theory. It's a theory that stems from the first alien movie. It is were the xeno creature somehow injects its victim with a substance of some sort. This substance transforms the victim into an egg.
There are expansions of this theory too. One being that each time the cycle goes around DNA is collected . After all the xeno die out, leaving the eggs unattended and ready for harvest then DNA exraction.
I would like to expand this theory further. With each passing cycle the best of the DNA is passed on and into the next egg. This will evenually lead to a prized deacon type xeno, like of which we see in the ample room. I do not have a reason as to why the deacon is highly prized.
I think this supports Davids statement "in order to create, first you must destroy'. The xeno filters out the bad DNA or the DNA that is not useful to the end result. While going through the process the xeno improves and evolves itself.
BigDave
MemberDeaconMar-07-2014 7:38 AMIt is one possibility but its one i dont favour, because the process is long and its dangerous method of getting better DNA. Thats not to say that it is not possible.
I would assume if we look at how we could if we had more money spent and no moral implications, we could alter the Genomes of Life Forms on Earth. If we was vastly more dedicated to Genetic Manipulation then its highly likely that we could at very least be able to Genetically create Perfect Humans, we could genetically turn of genes related to inherited diseases and medical conditions. We could turn on genes that make a more physical specimen we could find the genes that are related to beauty etc.
So we could create babies that will be less likely to get cancer, heart disease and babies that would carry Very Good Looks and Physical Health. And yes while life style can affect these i am talking about the basic genetics.
Theories are we could create hybrid organisms as well, we could for example bridge the connection of Bird to Dinosaurs.
What i am getting at is if its not beyond the realms of possibility for mankind to be able to achieve such things, and i think we could be so far advanced in this field given more money and throwing out the moral compass in say 100 Years.
Then surely a advanced Race like the Engineers would have other ways to manipulate and collect DNA and produce the traits they want, without using a Organism like the Xeno to do this process.
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BigDave
MemberDeaconMar-07-2014 7:51 AMThe way i looked at the Egg Morph Scene to me was a way to create a Xeno Organism when there is no Queen to Produce one, and i wondered if what is going on is this process is how the Organism creates a Queen Face Huger and this would explain the size difference in the Bret Egg.
It also makes more sense from the Alien Agenda, as creating a Queen Face Hugger to then lead to a Queen Chest Buster from Dallas would mean you get a Queen that could then fill the Nostramo with Xeno Eggs. A better way to procreate the species.
If we look at some organisms like Ants, Bees, Termites where if there are no Queens left then they can produce a Queen from one of the Eggs/Lavae by feeding and caring for it in a different manner.
Thus Bees and more so Ants are the perfect Organism as far as survival of their species. I would think that the Xeno would pretty much be likewise.
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Redant
MemberOvomorphMar-07-2014 12:18 PMI think there may be more to consider when it comes to the Xenos being able to produce a queen. Also let us think about what happens in real organisms when it comes to insects. These are complicated and
dynamic biological processes so it is not easy to explain without going into some of the bio chemistry.
In bees for example a queen can be produced by way of taking any drone and feeding it royal jelly or enough of the honey for the right duration.
When it comes to the Xeno’s they have the same mechanism in place. Every egg has the potential to produce a queen given the circumstances and the situation. For me the egg morph theory still stands because if the conditions are not right then the egg simply produces a queen. It has to because the fastest way to produce more drones is to invade the native speicies use it as a source of food and then convert that mass into many more drones in order to gain dominance. Drones kill but only really to get more of the indigenous population for implantation.
We see this in the Bee kingdom as well drones protect the queen and also make sure that she keeps making more drones and more queens to spread the DNA of the hive.
Bees are continually evolving in this process against one another making better bees I think the Xenos are doing it too only they are using the DNA of everything on the host world.
Excellent topic by the way.
BigDave
MemberDeaconMar-08-2014 3:06 PM@Redant
Yeah pretty much is the idea i had, it makes perfect sense if we consider what we see on the screen and that is the Xeno basically behaves just as Ants and Bees do, and even the none Aliens onwards fans will have to accept what we saw the Xeno in Alien do was simply try and procreate itself via the deleted scenes, if we ignore them, then all we get from the Alien Xeno was a Organism that just hunted down the crew of the ship purely as prey.
I always said if we take the deleted scene, then look at what was happening and that is 2 crew members was captured to produce a Egg and a Host for the Organism inside the Egg if Ripley had not torched the room.
We would then have had 2 Xenos on board the ship, if the Agenda was to produce more of its self, then why did it not capture Lambert and Parker and thus we would have had 3 Xenos on the Nostramo ready to be found by a rescue crew and then these 3 Xenos are faced with the task to capture more Victims to be used as a Host and Egg...
Look how long this process would go to give us a number of say 50 Xenos.....
However if the Egg Morph was the way to produce a Queen that can lay Eggs that explains why the Xeno only needed one Host and one Victim for the Egg Morph, because after this the resulting Queen could lay hundreds off Eggs and thus if 15 crew members of a rescue mission got on board this ship, it would be chassed down by the Xeno and with hundreds of Eggs well thats a lot of Face Hugers to make sure a good number of the 15 rescue crew get Face Hugged thus result in more Xenos.
Makes more sense...
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