Original Alien script by Dan O'Bannon was heavely influenced by H P Lovecraft's work
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Necronom 4
MemberNeomorphApril 16, 2014Just been reading through a few threads on the Strange Shapes site and came across a very interesting Dan O'Bannon statement in a thread titled:
In this thread, there is a quote by O'Bannon, which reads:
“Alien went to where the Old Ones lived, to their very world of origin,” Dan remarked in his essay, ‘Something Perfectly Disgusting’. “That baneful little storm-lashed planetoid halfway across the galaxy was a fragment of the Old Ones’ home world, and the Alien a blood relative of Yog-Sothoth.”
It's interesting to note that both Dan O'Bannon and H R Giger were big fans of and heavily influenced/inspired by Lovecraft's work.
The poster was good though!
This is the name given to Yog-Sothoth in August Derleth and H. P. Lovecraft's novel The Lurker at the Threshold. In the story, Alijah Billington describes Yog-Sothoth's appearance as
...great globes of light massing toward the opening, and not alone these, but the breaking apart of the nearest globes, and the protoplasmic flesh that flowed blackly outward to join together and form that eldritch, hideous horror from outer space, that spawn of the blankness of primal time, that tentacled amorphous monster which was the lurker at the threshold, whose mask was as a congeries of iridescent globes, the noxious Yog-Sothoth, who froths as primal slime in nuclear chaos beyond the nethermost outposts of space and time!
Source - Yog Sothoth Wiki
The poster was good though!
Here is a depiction of Cthulhu:
He bares a striking resemblance to the hunched over creature in the ampule chamber fresco in Prometheus.
The poster was good though!
Necronom4
Brilliant
This is the kind if stuff
I was looking for when
I started my thread on the
Connection between alien
And prometheus
Thank you sir !!
Pure gold
Your welcome Odu!
Do you think the depiction of Cthulhu above ^^ looks similar to the hunched creature in the ampule chamber fresco in Prometheus?
The poster was good though!
The following video is an interview with Dan O'Bannon not long before he past away, where he talks about is love of, and influence by, Lovecraft:
The poster was good though!
Yes Necron...
If you look at the image you posted and this sketch that O'Bannon did for Star Beast then they do look similar and Dan O'Bannons sketch looks even more like the Fresco creature than the one of Cthulhu you posted but they are all similar.
I think also this is why the Trillobite has a Squid look to it, just like Lovecraft's work.
Here is the Star Beast concept work for inside the Pyramid, as you will notice the Mural on the wall the Octipoid creature does look similar to Shaws Baby Trillobite, also i think the creature depicted on the Altar that this Octopoid is comming from looks similar to the Fresco Creature in Prometheus as its hard to work out what that creature is but it looks like it could have a beak like a Bird, or mandbles like a Ant but also it could be tentacles like the face of Cthulhu.
If you notice this Mural from Star Beast it does have some similar things to Prometheus Mural Room.
The Altar seems to have inbetween its base and top rows of what look like Alien Eggs, also on the walls we have what look like some kind of Head or Cthulhu mask if you know what i mean.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Definite influence I see on Dan O'Bannons sketch of what really looks like Cthulhu but more with a carapace and exo-skeleton. That mask above is really weird I cant tell where the eyes and mouth are.... creepy.
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@BigDave; Thanx for the contribution!
That sketch by O'Bannon defo looks like Cthulhu.
The poster was good though!
Great work Necro and BigD! Thanks guys!
You know, I was just thinking the other day how disappointing it is that Discovery never included an episode on Lovecraft in their Prophets of Science Fiction series, which was hosted by Ridley Scott.
It's a great series, perhaps they could do a second set of 'prophets' and include him!
Oh and yes guys....those Cluthu-like creatures are very reminiscent of the being depicted in the fresco!
And the Ampule Room Archway here:
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Fox, I want to see the birdy chtulu creature ! in p2 please not in thirty years !
@Lone..
Indeed that head over the arch ways to the doors i alway thought had a similar look to the Space Jockey Helmet to a extent if you say removed the hose/snorkel/trunk.
But you know the eyes on it do look like the creature from the fresco so there must be some kind of connection between them all and the Xeno and even the Derelict/Jugernaughts.
Hope we get some clues or even answers by the time the franchise is finished.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Necronom4I have looked at the picturesYou and bigdave posted.So the idea for the sj being aSuit was perhaps ridleys And not o bannons. So Perhaps the sj is a derivativeOf the cthulu creature you postedA picture of and perhaps. The sj In. Alien wasn't a suit but in fact A cthulu creature that could be Called an elder an that the Engineer is a cross of this creatureAnd humans. This could fit in Nicely with my slaverace theory Since the cthulu creature is gods And they do indeed exist if I readCorrectly outside our dimension.Like I predicted the elders mightBe. So perhaps the xeno as a relative of The Yog-Sothoth is perhaps a godLike type of pet as sometimes Kings would have a tiger or lionOn a chain near their throne andWould sometimes let them feed onTheir enemies they have conquered.Therefore perhaps the sj humanoidsAre carryinp eggs of xenos that theseCthulu elders or deities have Commanded them to drop On other deities planets as To compare whose "pets" areThe strongest. Maybe its just aGame for them and mankindWas perhaps not showing the Respect to the cthulu as they Were created as lesser race to Perhaps test the xeno 's strengthAnd had to be removed becauseWe no longer served this purpose.So the sj 's are interstellar lesser Versions of the cthulu and the Engineers are a cross between Mankind and the and the cthuluTo perhaps test different aspectsOf our design .This could fit nicely with my Hierarchy slave race theory andPerhaps the xeno is like the petsOf the god that is being in an Interstellar game of war betweenThe gods.This fits nice indeed.
@Odu; Yeah, O'Bannon and Giger were both aficionado's, and to a degree, experts of H P Lovecraft. Both had the vision that the Pilot of the derelict would be the skeletal remains of an alien creature. It was indeed Ridley's impression that this humanoid creature was infact a suit.
Your idea of the Giger alien being some kind of slave-pet, while i appreciate the thought you've put into that, i really don't think that is the case. Ridley showed us, with ALIEN, that the alien is much more than that, "A perfect organism."
James Cameron obviously ignored that ASH scene to suite his vision of a sequel.
Imo, the Giger monster is an ancient evil that can't be contained or controlled.
The poster was good though!
Necronom4
Where did o bannon get the idea
For the xeno being a blood relative
Of the Yog-Sothoth ?? Is this
Something he himself thought or
Is this wriiten/indicated by
Lovecraft himself ??
Odu; OBannon came up with the idea for his Star Beast story. John Carpenter was also inspired by Lovecraft and it shows in his The Thing.
Everyone is inspired by something or someone. Lovecraft himself was inspired by Edgar Allan Poe amongst other people.
EDIT: O'Bannon was inspired by the whole Lovecraftian universe when writing the script for StarBeast. He is the creator of the alien but Giger gave it a face (so to speak.)
The poster was good though!