Prometheus 2 plot, possible just speculation not FACT

It would be great to see unused ideas of Carlos Huante

Carlos Huante portofolio

BIGDAVE - Indeed! I would find it extremely compelling to see the original Space Jockey design get a little more spotlight! It is such a fascinating creature - and very haunting! :)

SHAMBS - The art you presented is stunning! I agree with your sentiment; I certainly hope some of this conceptual imagery gets a little more consideration for the next film! :)

Very interesting this, on a tangent I really liked AVP Requiem and have been thinking about the predetors weapon that found its way to the company, so I have now started to wonder if the other aliens in prometheus 2 might be preditors or something like them or even if the preditors got to the lv what ever it wa first. The info is intruiging though.

@Something Real, part of me is interested in these designs from Carlos Huante portofolio (Although I'm not a fan of the idea of the spacesuit). Mostly because that organic suit looks like a living creature by itself:

Almost as if the engineers were parasites using another species for their benefit, such as these shrimp using these jellyfish as transportation and food:

As I said, I'm not a big fan of the humanoid wearing suits, but if there was no other choice, I would have preferred that the suit itself is a creature apart from the user.

First a Big Thanks to Chris Picard for the News Article... again i will add that until we get anything that confirms these or information is released that rules out any of them, we are to take them with a pinch of salt, but i have had a look at put some my two cents about maybe how these add up....

First.. Carlos Huante portofolio

Very interesting concept work some of it i dont like, and also one Space Jockey suit looks a lot like what Neil Kompkamps was for Ripley...

But i do like the opening scene, if you watch the Portofolio it kind of reads like a story, we have a strange Humanoid Race with Large Elongated Chins and Heads... we then see one is Sacrificed, and we then see a Engineer well Humanoid who looks like our Engineers, we then see this being a few shots latter looking over some kind of Organism that has come from some kind of Spore we then see some shots of a Space Jockey kind of design that looks less of a suit but more of a mutation.

This then leads to a outer kind of Elongated Head and like layer of translucent material around the arms much like how Flying Fox or Squirels have that allow them to fly and the head and these arms are indeed like the Jelly Fish around the Shrip as shown by Shamps

Some of the other Space Jockey work looks very nice... but again like a Mutation and not quite a Suit, well it looked more part of the Engineer like the Pressure Suit does.

Anyway we then get to Concept work for Spaights draft and then Lindeloffs... boy there was some good stuff there.. Nice how the Ultramorph some of the work matches the Deacon Mural...

Anyway looking at some of the shots i highlighted above got me thinking about the information i was given (Leak) and so indeed what if a Humanoid Race that was not so Human, created Mankind to perform a task... eventually this race (Engineers) some of them rebelled and either the Original Race created a new Race to replace them using Engineers DNA and not their own (so as to not create a as inteligent race) very similar to the Annunaki tale.... or indeed the Engineers decided to create Mankind so they have a race to serve them or replace them for the purpose they was intended for....

Just as this carries on with how Mankind creates David 8 and we see seeds that David 8 does not want to serve Mankind but even surpass and maybe destroy us.... could we be seeing a similar theme in Prometheus?

Is this where the Hierarchy points, the vague Ancient Believes point, and stealing of Fire points come from?  The Engineers Stole the Fire of their Gods to create us...

I think maybe this could be potentially what could be going on.

Ok i am going to attempt and give my two cents to each of these and ill try keep it short ;)

1) The Movie will have 3 Plot Elements, and Shaw and Davids mission to find the Engineers Homeworld is just one of those.

Now this depends what you consider a Plot Element?  I would consider as we already know that Shaw and David are on there way to find where these Engineers come from, this is surely the Main Plot that we know about.. so from Shaw and David onboard the Engineer Ship to landing on Paradise and what ever they find is Plot 1?

Plot 2 well there was rumours of multiple Davids, and then latter about a mission to LV 223 so if we assume the company sends another Mission to LV 223 then this surely has to be another main Plot.

But a 3rd?  Trying to think what logical way that could go would have to be either we see some goings on back on Earth that path the way to introduce Yutani or maybe what becomes of Weyland as far as who runs it now?  

Would flash back scenes from Engineers Past be considered a Plot, what if we are shown as the Sacrifical Scene Full was, a scene showing us something about the connection with the Engineers and their History...  or maybe but unlikely  flash backs that show us like the Sacrificial Scene.. but show us what happened on LV 223?   But then would both of those not be a part of Plot 1 and Plot 2.... and i doubt they will show flash back of Engineers visiting Earth.

So i think the most likely candidate is 

Plot 1: David + Shaw and Paradise and what they find and events from that.

Plot 2: Mission back to LV 223 to discover whats left of Prometheus and see what can be found to the companies advantage... What treasures does LV 223 hold.

Plot 3: Something that maybe shows Seeds to Yutani company and potential envolvement and what could lead to the Merger with Weyland or signs that could lead to it in future movie?

7) The movie will not be based largely on Shaw and David shenanigans aboard the Juggernaught but there will be some screen time devoted to Shaw and David during the trip but not actually interacting as such on the ship. As Shaw will be incapacitated for the most part.

This is connected to the first Plot point, i think they have to show us some interaction between David and Shaw onboard the Juggernaught, we know Davids head goes on, we know he must Pilot the ship and we know he cant get his head on without Shaws help and that he has to convince her.

There surely has to be some dialog and scenes between them onboard, it would be a missed opputinity to not do so,  there would be a great dynamic and tention in the scene and this scene would path the way for how Shaw and David interact throughout the movie.

Shaw incapacitated must mean she goes into Cryo Sleep..... and we have to wonder do we get to see David wondering around the Engineers Ship, maybe learning stuff on the way like he did during his journey on Prometheus while the crew was in Cryo Sleep.

Only way i can also see time dedicated to Shaw and David yet not actually interacting on the ship could be maybe David viewing Shaws Dreams again? how can he do that without the Visor he had in Prometheus mind?

In a draft i was working on, i had it that Shaw had dreams on board while she was in Cryo and also David had dreams and well also visions  well delusions, kind of like how Donnie Darko  and Frank.. only Frank was Weyland.. lol

Will they use Dreams like they did in Prometheus who knows.... it surely would be a way to bring more cast members in.....

8) Prometheus was not the FIRST company mission to the Zeta 2 system.

Now im not sure if i misheard this right, but im sure they said not the First, but it could had been not the only Mission... now if it was not the ONLY this could fit in with as Plot 2 with a mission to LV 223 after Prometheus.

If it was not the FIRST well this would really baffle me..  could it been a Probe or unmanned mission? Could it mean a Android mission was sent before Prometheus?  could it mean they had been to LV 426 and not LV 223?   I just dont know...

This is a interesting point if indeed its about a mission that reached the system before Prometheus but how could that be and how they will cover that, if thats the case. I am just not sure....

I guess the Weyland site does show that our Weyland Company has traveled as far as 3249 LY from Earth (yep this makes us wonder how come Prometheus took so long to travel to LV 223 at 39LY).

The site also says the discovery of LV 426 was 2039 and they hope to send a mission there within the next century... could that be Nostramo? or had they sent something else earlier?

If this information about a mission before Prometheus is correct and i hear it right as that Prometheus was not the First to that system....   Then im not sure how they would cover that... maybe this could be Plot 3? Showing us a earlier mission? But i would think Plot 3 maybe could be about the Company on Earth and Yutani or is the timeframe of Prometheus 2 going to be way before any such event?

Maybe the 2nd mission to LV 223 discovers or shows us not only Prometheus wreckage maybe it shows or makes mention of other wreckages or probes on LV 223 or LV 426.

This one has me a bit stumped as to what  it could mean and how much would be shown on such a event as to show or hint that Prometheus was never the first mission... it could be something vague, like before the company sets off to find out what happened to Prometheus and we get some dialog like "thats the 2nd mission we sent to that system that we have lost, is it worth the risk to send a 3rd"  Maybe this is when they could say, "we can send a unmanned mission of Davids" ?

2) The Engineers are not God or our creators, but a servant race for some other purpose. So merely as David is to Mankind.

Well Ridley had said he did not want to meet God in the first movie which rules the Engineers out as being God, and he refered them to Dark Angels or Fallen Angels and we know in context of Angels that they was the servants of God.  And looking at the removal of the Elders scene and the cutting down of Engineers scenes that now portray them with more simple motives and objectives... they now seem to be portrayed as Biological TERMINATORS.

Also we see Sacrifice a lot in the movie, not only the opening sequence but the Mural showed us two Face Huged what we can assume Engineers, and ultimately its the Engineers unwilling Sacrifice that led to the Deacon... is this what their purpose or in part was?

3) Shaw and David will not be getting the Answers they want, what they find is truely Horrifying Agenda. Revalations that seperate even futher the original answers Shaw thought they would find when they got to LV 223 in the first movie.

This has me thinking.. Shaw wanted to meet our creators and get some answers to why we was created, what she found was we was created by these Engineers and they was connected to us, but they wanted to destroy us for some reason, and the place Shaw thought was a invitation, just leads them to a place these Engineers was creating and experimenting with something Horrific that was meant for us.

She wanted Answers off the Engineer but Weyland would not let her, so now she wants those Answers.. Why create us?, and Why then destroy us?.

How can Shaw hopping to find these Engineers or their creators for these Answers take a horrid turn for the worse, or what she finds is not what she had hopped?

Ridley sugested they find some beings but they are far from Benevolent and they are not Gods in the traditional Sense, and that Paradise is more like Hell... Ridley must have something very disturbing as far as what they find and the Agenda is.

But what can that be? This is something we can only speculate at, was we created for a more sinister purpose?  The franchise does have a emphasis on Sacrifice.... was we intended for that?  

Does these Engineers or their creators even know we was created, is was the Engineers used by their creators for some Sinister purpose?

Ridley hints what would happen if the Goo was used on God or Machine, is David the Machine? or is God more Machine...

I think this topic as far as what they find and the Agenda of these Gods or who ever is top of the Hierarchy commands a Topic to itself.

But i assume we would be shown this no case of Godlike beings creating Engineers and then us in some happy tale like the Bible God/Angels and Mankind or even other cultures throughout Mankind.. But something very dark and sinister.


6) There will be some connection between Engineers and Prometheus Myth but this is loosely.... related to the Fire.

So maybe not literally?  A) Prometheus created Mankind, B) He stole Fire from the Gods to give to Mankind that helped start our evolution as a civilisation, C) he betrayed his kind/brothers the Titans and sided with their Children and lesser Gods the Olympians. D) He then betrayed them to help Mankind giving us forbiden knowledge and Fire.

These are but just a few things Prometheus stood for... what if we swap Prometheus for a Engineer or a Faction of Engineers, or even one of the Beings above the Engineers in the Hierarchy who then betrayed his own kind.. in similar ways to the above...

If we try connect the Myth to Prometheus.... did this figure, create or play a part in the Engineers, did he then side with the Engineers in them overthrowing their creators... but then he later created Mankind or taught us stuff that the Engineers did not want us to learn.  Could the Fire be the Sacrifical Substance?

If some kind of Agenda as far as rebelion, creation, rebelion and Prometheus being either a Elder or what ever the higher race is, or Engineer or even represent a faction of Engineers or higher beings that was involved in somekind of War and Rebelion and Creation of Mankind...

I think something like this is what i would say fits in with Prometheus Myth, and its also something along one of the ideas i had for what is found on Paradise.. but then i had a few ideas lol


10) If we are expecting a evolution and more depth to the Ancient Aliens connection, this wont be the case but we could see a slight connection as far as some Ancient God connections. As far as Hierarchy and Order of creation.

They kinda said like how David is part of that Hierarchy.

Again as above, maybe we may get some lose links to the Hierarchy of creation..... we know in Bible/Koran Terms thats God = Angels = Mankind, in the Greek Myths its Titans = Olympians = Mankind. In the Sumerian we had Anunnaki = Igigi/Igigu = Mankind.

So we have Engineers = Mankind and then before Engineers what ever beings Shaw finds that are at the top of the Hierarchy but maybe they would show us the Hierarchy  connection and not so much to much if any Ancient Aliens connection...

11) David wishes to play God himself and continue the order of Hierarchy.

David is the next in line of that Hierarchy, Some Race/Being or Being or what ever.. created our Engineers, who created or was used to create Mankind who created David 8 and Androids.

David showed signs that he felt he was superior to Mankind, he showed signs that he was rebelious to us and not subservant, and he wanted his Father Dead..... He notices that our creators are Mortal.

And maybe he hopes to find who created them, and maybe with the Bio Weapons he is carrying (bringing Death) he too wants to be God and ultimately destroys these beings and in doing so becomes as God himself via the Black Goo or he creates his own creation via the Black Goo that he unleashes upon the beings at the top of the Hierarchy. Thus David is now the King!

I can only assume that something like this is what fits in with that point 11)

14) The movie will have larger cast than Prometheus and so not a small Cast as we may have thought or been led to i.e Shaw and David on a ship to find a God.

Maybe a bigger Budget and also if Ridley wants to show us something Epic that can branch off onto its own seperate Franchise... then maybe yes we could see larger Cast..

Does it mean Main Cast? You see Prometheus had a typical cast of what

18 Crew Members inc David, plus hidden Weyland thats 19 cast!

4 Archaeological Assistants during the Island of skye Scene.

3 for Shaws Dream (young Shaw + Mother and Father)

3 Engineers, Sacrifical + 2 LV 223 Engineers (actors who played them).

1 Violin Girl..

Thats 30 Cast Members not including.... The Elder Engineers which is what another 7-8 Cast Members unless some of the other cast members played some of the background Elders as we saw 3 close up...

Nevermind the Africans in the dream scene which was what 30 easy....

So Prometheus total on screen Cast as far as from Shot Scenes would be near 70....

So it would be interesting to see how Paradise has a bigger cast... unless they mean main Cast as far as who was shown in Prometheus, so we exclude Africans, and Elders Engineers and Violin Girl?

Who knows... depends what we shall see in Part 2..... Ridley had said he has grand ideas for the Engineers and Franchise that is not limited to Space Jockeys and Xenos...  The movie and Ridley hints that the Engineers have created life on MANY Worlds. This leaves a potential for a lot of Alien races, or maybe Mankinds creation is not limited to Earths system? 

What if we get a LV 223 mission sub plot, that could give the potential for more Cast... what about if we see board room meetings or shots from Earth or Mars, where we could have people in small roles or back ground.

Then what if we have flash backs and dreams? again these could be more Cast members..

So Larger cast could mean by just a few, and not really mean vastly larger and it depends if it means Cast as far as the Prometheus Crew, Engineers and Shaws Father, Mother, and young Shaw and Violin Girl to compare against.... or does some of those not count as main cast?

So how much more Cast, that depends.. i think there is potential for it, especially if there is a sub plot or two which include mission to LV 223 and also maybe some plot involved Weyland Company or Yutani who knows..

*) Bigger Budget 50% Increase!

There would be more likely a Bigger Budget.... Fox would know that Prometheus disapointed, and i am sure Ridley would pitched a bigger idea for Part 2 and that a larger Budget would allow him to bring that vision on to the screen.

So yes its more likely it would get a bigger budget, and it seems this movie is a Pet Project of Ridleys that could be more important to him than a number of his previous and future projects...

But 50% increase would give us a Budget of about $180M which would be a $50M + increase?  I would say yes he movie would have a bigger budget and i would say at least $150M  but i could say the maximum would be $200M so maybe a $175-180M is the middle ball park?

I think $150M would be needed, but upto $180M if this is true i am sure it would help go far as far as what Ridley wants to show on screen.  And to deliver it...

I am sure more freedom a movie length of 3 hours and extra $50M Prometheus Budget would have gave us something more Epic...

17*) There could be some ideas and things that they never got round to include from Prometheus that could be done in Prometheus 2

What could this be.... who knows.. as there could be many things.... i know Ridley did want to include a few scenes.... there was the rumoured under water Scene relating to Shaw and Holoways Findings, but this was Spaights draft.... Then we had the Weyland Dreams on a Yacht that they was going to film, and the reason they hired Guy Pearce they never hired him purely for Old Man make up, they was going to have dream scenes of him young... otherwise they was going to cast a older actor but they signed Pearce up on basis of the Yacht Scene.... but this would now have no relivence to Part 2

Unless they will do scenes of a young Weyland, flash backs or dreams by David?

What else did they want to add that never got used?  Maybe Scenes from Mars, or a Space Station.... i think this would fit in well with a board meeting scene as far as to show us who now runs Weyland and also set up the return mission to LV 223

A similar Scene was planned for Prometheus where Weyland would meet Shaw and Holloway on a Space Station around Mars or even on Mars.. again this was Spaights draft mainly.

But then they said ideas... that could mean almost anything really... im trying to think could it be things related to the Engineers and Xeno or the Goo...?  i am not so sure.

The only thing that stands out to me is maybe some dream scenes or scenes of a younger Weyland, and maybe the showing of a Weyland Headquarters in Space or on Mars..

But who knows...

Anyway thats a few i gave my two cents on...

Next will be points that link to LV 223/LV 426 The Goo, and New Monsters...

13) The movie plot has kind of a Matrix and Blade Runner theme to the Agenda of the creators. And Engineers.

As far as Blade Runner connection?

There was rumours of Tyrell Corperation being connected to Alien franchise, not only in the Weyland Viral Sites where there was Emails to Weyland from Tyrell but also in Alien there was some connection as far as the Bios of the Crew.

Ridley had mentioned a connection between Replicants and Androids and how they are similar only one is Organic the other Synthetic.

But thats not to say the movie would connect to Blade Runner, it could be that it is similar in some other way...  as the person did say its connected as far as connection to the Creators and Engineers and Agenda?

Replicants are basically Engineered Biological Androids, they are indistinguishable from Humands apart from a Emotional Test...

They have a set lifespan of 4 years...

Could this be connected because we see Replicants in Paradise? created by Humans... or maybe Engineers created another race of Humans without a Soul with limited life spans.

Weyland says David is like a Human but he will never grow old or die, but he lacks a Soul...

Could the Engineers be basically similar to Replicants?

Interesting is in Blade Runner Roy Batty requests more Life from his creator... which gets refused....  just as Weyland wanted from the Engineer and got refused...

So maybe the Blade Runner theme could be the connection to Replicants and not having a Soul?  Or connected to Engineers.

Or does David want to become more Organic and gain a Soul?

Who knows but maybe this is where the movie can have a kind of Blade Runner theme or connection..? Or is the whole exploring way of the movie going to be connected?

Blade Runner did have a Genetic Engineer theme, this is what our Engineers do... is this what Weyland can do if it gets its hands on Engineers Secrets?

Blade Runner also had Religious nodes to it and religious symbolism like Prometheus had.

I just dont know but i am intriged to say the least.

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As far as Matrix...

Well the movie shows us a rebelion between Humans and Machines and a War which the machines Won, but Humans blocked the Machines power source which was Solar Power.. so the Machines found a alternative source by using Humands bioelectricity

I can only think is this a Paralel to the Engineers.. being Humans in Matrix and the Engineers creators being the Machines from Matrix.. or Vice Versa?

so some kind of War against Engineers and their creators? Are they Machines?  Ridley did say what if the Goo was unleashed on God or a Machine?

Maybe it means how Neo was grown from Birth in a Vessel like Tube similar to say how Clones of Ripley 8 was, Similar to the Engineers Cryo Pods....  In the Matrix the Machines basically procreate us from Early age and Grow us in these Vessels where we are connected to drain our bioelectricity while we are being kept alive and our brains are living in a fake world called the Matrix...

I dont think Paradise would go the we all live in a Matrix route, so maybe its the connection of how these machines grow Humans in these Vessals...

Is the Matrix and Blade Runner connection as far as themes, or something from those movies... that the creators of the Engineers are Machines.. or certainly not Organic, and they create in Vessels Clones of Engineers?

The person did say one Artwork showed what looked like the Scene when Neo awoke from his Matrix in the Vessal and we saw thousands of them all lined up... and some contained like Babies similar to those in Alien R when they was cloning Ripley 8.

Does this mean that it showed a Facility where Engineers are cloned on mass?

Could this be what they are getting at?  

They also added the other concept work showed a Bio-Mechanical Facility with a Bio-Mechanical Bieng connected to it like the Deacon was in the Mural....

Funny enough the Deacon (Shaws) from Prometheus was shown in the Fire and stone Comics to finally become connected to the Temple, just as the Deacon in the Mural

Does this show some kind of Bio-Mechanical Being connected to the whole Facility, does somehow this Facility need this being just as the Machines do Humans in the Matrix?

Does this Bio-Mechanical Beings essence what is used to clone the Engineers or its its essence what creates the Black Goo?

Im not sure but when the person described the concept work and mentioned the Blade Runner and Matrix feel to some of the elements of the plot.... the above is what my imagination could come up with that could connect the two?

who knows..... if its kinda true then indeed its a plot that is very very sinister and not what Shaw would expect when she first set off to LV 223 in search of our creators...

Its a plot that well kind has hints as far as some elements of Paglens Transcendence style or writting goes...

Anyway those views are what i could make out if i was to give my two sents on the points i was given, but i could be way off with my intrpretation of them as far as fitting with what we seen and know about Prometheus and the sequel... and again... i could have basically tried to give my two sents to information that is pure FAKE... im not sure...

But when i add it all up, and how i see it fit in.. and assume how they could connect it paints a picture that some how kinda has a plausble feel to it...

I guess over the next 6 months stuff should start to come out as far as Prometheus 2, certainly by Christmass i think we would have some clues and comments and maybe ideas of shooting locations etc....

In the mean time all we can do is speculate....

Next i will tackle as i said before the LV 223/LV 426 connection, Xeno connection and Goo as far as what this person said roughly and how could that be explained and fit in?

Im sure that seeing what ever David does with the Goo, and what ever another mission to LV 223 finds when added up would provide some more clues to the connections.

12) They are following some ideas from Star Beast as far as connection between the said Hierarchy of creation seen in the movies. This could be regards to Engineer connection to their purpose. And connection to Sacrifices.

I have been trying to think of what this could be....  the person did say that the relation between Engineers, their creators and purpose as far as Hierarchy of creation they would be using some unused ideas from Star Beast in its similar connection to Sacrifices..

Alien had to leave out some of Star Beast ideas, Prometheus has been influenced by some more of those that never made it to Alien.

Im just trying to think what was never used in Alien, and what maybe not used in Prometheus that was in Star Beast as far as any link to the goings on as far as maybe that Temple and Organism and Sacrifices...

Only few things i could come up with are....

Star Beast tried to show us.....

The Temple Comblex had a Sacrifical Chamber with Mural and Fresco, and Prometheus Mural and Big Head room had a similar look and purpose. So to a degree Prometheus covered this...

But Star Beast was sugesting that the Temple was what was left of a Ancient Alien Civilization that had long since been vanished, and there World is now baron and dead, but beneath one of their Temples was the Chamber that contained the Star Beast Spores/ Urns.

To a degree this could been covered in Prometheus because these Temples are what was left of the Engineers Civilization  on LV 223 complex that they had left clues on Earth how to reach.. with only one Surviving Engineer (or so we are lead to believe at present).

But could this be what we also see on Paradise?  A Baron World that was once different and full of life, and Ancient Alien Civilization that is all but gone....?

Star Beast hinted that the Temple was...

"Then that tomb... must have been some
               kind of fertility temple... where
               they stored their eggs, and maybe
               held mating rituals... "

Thus was a place where the young/starting cycle to the Alien Organism was kept and where Rituals was performed to allow its life cycle to begin....

Again Prometheus could be classed as showing us that with the Mural Room etc..

Star Beast shows us that another lifeform was used to be Hosts for the Organism, and ths Sacrifical Host was shown to be a Organism very Alien, that had like a Ant head like look as far as Mandables goes, or could it be beaked?

The background information sugests that the Ancient Race on the World of where Star Beast was, used a beast similar to how we have say Cows or Ox, and that these was used by this Ancient Race to be Sacrificial Hosts for the purpose of allowing their off spring i.e Eggs/Spores to begin its Life Cycle... i.e via Face Huger to Host...

But Star Beast seems to show this Organism reaches a Adult Stage then it uses Hosts to mutated into Eggs/Spores to re-start its Life Cycle......  With for some reason no Hosts to use, and maybe some other event that left the Star Beasts Civilization in ruin... and the World had become Baron.... maybe after a War..? or just after many many thousands of years there became next to nothing left of this Ancient Alien Culture.

So if this Temple contained the Eggs/Spores and of the Ancient Alien race who built the Temple, they must have been inteligent, the Temple is described as having an ancient tomb full of fantastic artifacts.

But i cant rememer where i read or found out, but i think its same place that i found information about the Sacrifical Animal in Star Beast Mural that was to this Alien Race as a Cow or Ox is to us...

I am sure i also found out that it sugested that the Spores and Star Beast was not the same Race that created the Temple and Drew the Mural and created all those artifacts.

O'Bannon did refer to after Alien draft that the Temple that contained the Eggs was that the Organism was like the (Blood Related) Yog-Sothoth from the Cthulhu Mythos  and now when we think of that the Star Beast Mural does show creatures that look like some depictions to the Yog-Sothoth the Octopoid Face Huger from the Leathry Urns/Spores does have that look to it, which also Shaws Trilobite after C-Section did.... Latter the Star Beast in the Mural is shown to look even more like the Yog-Sothoth and also like the fully grown Trilobite.

O'Bannon then also said the place Alien/Star Beast takes place on is the World of the Great Old Ones from the Cthulhu Mythos.  I think the early idea was the planet was not a planet but a Astroid that was once Part of Planet of the Great Old Ones which then evolved into being a Planetoid that once contained some Ancient Alien civilization.

This makes more sense that some other Race created the Temples and had the Ancient Civilization than the creatures from which the Spores are part of.. i.e  a O'Bannon take on the Yog-Sothoth so the actual Ancient Civilization was that of O'Bannons take on the Great Old Ones

Anyway i am not 100% the best when it comes to H. P. Lovecraft. work..

But Prometheus and maybe Star Beast does seem to have some elements of At the Mountains of Madness to it, so maybe the Elder Things (Ancient Race who built the Temples) and Shoggoths (Star Beast Spores) could fit more to what Star Beast was showing..

i.e that the Temples beloned to a long lost Ancient Culture that is now vanished... leaving behind inside their Temples some other Organism for some purpose..

Funny enough the Elder Things are described as being the first extraterrestrial species to come to the Earth, colonizing the planet about one billion years ago.  This kind of seems similar to the Prometheus Elder Engineers Scene.

Anyway gone off Track a Bit lol

Back to it...

So Star Beast shows us Ancient Culture that is now gone, with all that was left is a Temple, that contains Some Organism (Spores) that is  the Star Beast (which becomes the Alien/Eggs).  Are we to assume the Alien built the Temples? Or some other Race?

If so and from what some information and comments by O'Bannon sugests, have we not already explored this with Prometheus?

Star Beast showed a Mural with the Spore/Star beast Life Cycle.... in Alien Gigers redesign of the Fresco/Murals for Alien showed instead of some Alien looking Organism, that had a Ant head look or a Beaked Organism look, that was used for the Sacrifice to procreate the Star Beast......  This Organism described as being the Ancient Cultures equivalent to a Cow.. is replaced by Humanoid Race in Space Suits, that look somewhat to a degree to the Engineers in Prometheus....

Gigers alternative Face Huger designs show Bald Headed Unmasked beings being Sacrificed, who's suits look like the Masked ones in Gigers unused Alien Mural only with Mask Removed..

Do these beings (Space Jockey/Engineers) represent the Sacrifical Creature in the Star Beast Mural and so are neither the Star Beast/Alien for whom they are Sacrificed to procreate.  Neither are they prehapese the Ancient Race that created the Temple in Star Beast...

Ridley said they never wanted to meet God in Prometheus and so our Engineers who seem to be doing a lot of Sacrificing (also on the Mural in Prometheus) are not GODS

Thus there could be some other Race/Being or something else that are the Gods...

So while Star Beast's Temple etc has some connection to Prometheus.....

Prometheus shows us that LV 223 is not the Homeworld of the Ancient Race that created the Temples and Xeno....

Wether this Paradise Homeworld would be in ruin as the Ancient (unseen) Civilization in Star Beast was.... or not we cant be sure...

But as far as the Hierarchy and Sacrifices goes...  and connection to Star Beast, maybe its showing us that our Engineers are purely created to serve a purpose for some other more Ancient Races Agenda, and maybe part of that is to play Host to some Organism related to the Xeno as far as ancestry?

So will we see the Ancient Race at the top of that Hierarchy and can we peice together that our Engineers are merely servants and Sacrifices to their Agenda... and somehow a Organism related to the Xeno plays a part in that Agenda?

I know this post is long winded.... but i really am trying to think... What unused idea from Star Beast in Relation to the Hierarchy of the Ancient Culture who created the Temple in Star Beast and the Spores within it and Sacrifical Aspects could make it to Prometheus 2?

If we go back to the SYNOPSIS of Star Beast.... in relation to that...

"Certain clues in the wrecked ship lead them across the hostile surface of the planet to a primitive stone pyramid, the only remnant of a vanished civilization.  Beneath this pyramid they find an ancient tomb full of fantastic artifacts.  Lying dormant in the tomb are centuries-old spores"

"Then that tomb... must have been some kind of fertility temple... where they stored their eggs, and maybe held mating rituals... "

Now if i go back to what the person who said there was a connection to un-used Star Beast Hierarchy Elements.... they described seing also Concept work of a Vast set of Chambers like Cryo Pods like the Scene from Matrix when Neao is awoken from the Matrix... and these Tubes contain Clones of Humanoid Babies similar to some shots from Alien Resurections....

Could this fit in with the some kind of fertility temple... where they stored their eggs as in we are not talking Eggs but a Facility where they are growing some Organisms?  could this be Engineer clone Facility?

I just still cant fit the un-used Star Beast Hierarchy Elements and Sacrifcial aspects in anyway apart from that there is some other Ancient Race on Paradise that are producing Engineers for servant and Sacrifical Purposes...

Could this fit in with maybe a Rebelion by some of these Engineers who was fed up of being used in such a way, and some how this is how Mankind came to be... maybe in such a way that the Annunaki Tale tells of a Rebelion by the Iggi Gods against their Annunaki Hierarchy and so Mankind was created to take the place of the Iggi...

This Mankind created to take the place of the Engineers as Sacrifices?

I just cant be sure....

Just going through Cthulhu Mythos The Elder Things and Shoggoths as far as connection and not appearence.... could sugest a Annunaki/Iggi relation a Gods/Angels a Titan/Olympian....  In that the Shoggoths was created as a Servent Race by the Elder Things but the Shoggoths rebelled and thus caused the demise of the Elder Things civilization.

The Cthulhu Mythos has the Elder Things as being in a War with 3 Races...

1) Star-spawn of Cthulhu

2) Great Race of Yith 

3) Mi-go

Could one of these fit in with the Alien Xeno or its Original Ancestor?

Whats interesting also is the Ubbo-Sathla to some degree does have some links to the Black Goo...

So maybe the Shoggoths are our Engineers and not the Xeno or related Organism in context of Prometheus being based on some loose elements of Cthulhu Mythos?

But then the Shoggoths are also described in a way that we could interpret as the Black Goo..

Anyway i do not know if and how much of Alien/Prometheus is based on the above Mythos...

In context to the Star Beast connection i can only assume that our Engineers could have been created by a Ancient Race for some purpose and a faction of them rebelled against their Hierarchy is concerned..

How Mankind and Xeno fits in with it i am not so sure.... maybe  the Engineers in part was used as Sacrifices for the Xeno or related Origins? And Mankind was created to replace the Engineers.. who knows... this trying to figure out the connection between Engineers, their creators, Mankind and the Xeno in relation to anything not used from Star Beast is certainly hard to figure out..

But then again as i have said these notes about potential Plot points from Prometheus 2 could all be just Fake and in no way real at all. So i am trying to make sense of something that never is lol

5) There will be two Monsters One new, both will have loose connection to the Xeno but they will be different.

Now Bare in mind was a while ago now... i am sure they said TWO main Monsters, but they could have meant more than one Monster but ONE will be New

Trying to figure this out and Ridley had said there would be a New Monster and one that will be like the Original but a more fresher take on it and different to those in Prometheus which he felt was too close to the Aliens we saw in the Alien Franchise.. but how can he do a fresher take on the Original?  and i think me meant the Alien one or the Giger work it was based off..

We know Ridley said David is bringing Hell with him (Black Goo) and what happens if that stuff infects a God or Machine..... so maybe we can safely assume that what ever David unleashes will provide us with the NEW Monster...

This does not have to mean this is the only Organism apart from Engineers and Humans and Androids.... i think Ridley means this NEW Monster is something they are going to be showing us connected to the Black Goo.

But if we are to also be shown a second mission to LV 223, then regardless of not seeing the Deacon or Hammerpedes, and even assuming that all the Goo released in that Temple and also the crashed Juggernaught ... is of no more use... i.e its spilled but has dried up and has no effects...

We stilll have maybe other Temples to explore, there would have to be other places where the Many More Engineer ships  are docked, and do they contain the same Goo?  or a different version...

So there is much potential for seeing new Monsters and not just ONE...  But as that person said ONE IS NEW do we get to see the Hammerpedes or Deacon?  Or is other infections with the Goo on LV 223 just going to produce similar results that we have seen in Prometheus?

9) The Black Goo is not quite how its shown in the movie, they are going the route that it is the Origin of Life, the Blood of Life and all creation.  And kind of like from the Tree of Life and Forbiden Fruit.

Pretty much i guess how the Comic Books Fire and Stone was going

15) The comic books followed LV 223 and 426 and while the events show what could happen, the comics are to be considered a alternative. But underlying themes could be explored.

I can only assume that they are going the route that the Goo is going to be shown to be something that is similar to what the Comic Books shown, and that it is a Biological Substance that not only can manipulate and Evolve/Mutate Life... but that it in effect is the basis for all LIFE

What is interesting is the Tree of Life and Forbiden Fruit..... could this mean the Goo is the FIRE if it forms the basis for creating and evolving all Life, that would fit in with the "sometimes to create one must destroy"

But why was the Engineers messing about with the stuff on LV 223, was they using it to create something they maybe should not have..?  Or is that what ever they was doing down there was a way to extract or obtain the Blood/Goo of Life from something?

But then the Tree of Life got my thinking there has to maybe be some Biological Element they are going to show that is the source of the Black Goo, where it comes from and that it would have some symbolic connection to the Tree of Life and Forbiden Fruit.

Does this stuff come from God... or who ever or WHAT EVER will be shown to be the devine being...

But then how does Ridleys David is bringing Hell and what if the Goo effects God or a Machine Qoute mean?   If this substance comes from the Blood or Body of some being or creature or Biological Giger Horror peice,  then how can the Goo infect it?

I think we may have to look at what we seem to be shown in the Comics, and while not take them as THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS NEXT but rather a this is what happens IF?

4) The Movie will give us more of a link between LV 223 and LV 426, and it will provide some answers to the Alien fans but it wont be a Alien based movie.  

I guess the fanboys fix will come from Alien 5

Now for the BIG ONE the burning question....

But then i am not sure exactly how they would connect LV 223 and LV 426 as well Prometheus did do that, only vaguely... and i dont think they are going to go the route of showing us the Space Jockey and how he got down there on LV 426 and Eggs etc... or like a Spaight draft...

Maybe it could.... but maybe it would just provide futher links between the Space Jockey and Xeno Eggs on LV 426 and LV 223...

Prometheus gave us the Mural and Frescos that gave suptile clues of some connection, we saw the effects of the Goo that seemed to connect to Xeno DNA, and how a set of events that led to Shaws Baby that was in essence a Human/Xeno Hyrid Face Huger that thus lead to a Human/Xeno Hybrid Chest Buster.....

We was shown that the Juggernaughts and Derelict are similar, they peform the same task.... however one Cargo was Urns containing Goo that under certain circumstances can produce a Face Huger/Chest Buster releated Life Form.....    the other contained Eggs that contain Chest Buster Life Forms.... via Face Huger.

There has to be a connection and that is that one of these 3...

1) Goo can lead to a Organism that leads to the Eggs. (does not have to be laid), i dont by the Urns become Eggs idea..

2) The Goo comes from the Eggs via re-weaponizing them.

3) There is something that produces the Eggs but also the Goo can come from also.

Maybe we would get more suptile links? 

Will we get our clues from the Engineers Homeworld?  would that hold some connection to the Xeno Eggs or the creatures in the Mural?   Will we get our answers by something David does with the Goo that goes on to produce something related to those Eggs? (not saying David's actions are why the Eggs are on the Derelict).

If there is another mission to LV 223 or indeed LV 426 or a mission that can decode some of the Signal or gain clues as to more of what LV 223 is as far as connected to LV 426.....

We had those vague clues in Prometheus.. another mission to explore that Temple, the Juggernaught or other Temples, or something they encounter could maybe provide more links to the Xeno and Eggs?

We just cant be sure.... i mean the LV 223 and LV 426 link could be more vague that that as far as Xeno DNA....  Prometheus hinted that LV 223 was at some point being used as a Weapons Facility to create and test Bio-Weapons and that somehow this Bio Weapon was connected to the Xeno Eggs and a Creature that has some connection to the Xeno....

We could just be given more clues to the purpose behind why this place started to create these Bio Weapons and maybe what was the Goal of the Goo, was they testing it and trying to make sure first that a CERTAIN result would be obtained?  

Or was the using something to try and re-engineer?

So its not quite sure how and what they would show that would provide more answers....   Prometheus never did, it just left clues and the movie was done in a way that some was tooooo vague... and also a bit of a mess and incoherent, so maybe its more likewise clues that are less vague and less ambigious or incoherent.

One Example was the Juggernaught..... the other 3 Cryo Pods was Chest Busted, and the Props used showed 100% Chest Buster Holes and not the size of Deacon Holes i.e the Human/Xeno Face Huger that produced a Fetus that was near fully formed and had a lot of Human DNA.

But they could had been chest busted by something more similar to our Original Face Hugers, or something that would lead to a Chest Buster event all the same...

Why was those Engineers Chest Busted.... maybe we could see more clues to that?

What ever is shown, this person says it would provide some more clues to the fans as far as the Xeno Eggs relation to LV 223 and LV 426....  but it seems it wont be a Xeno fest like Spaights draft...

But somethings that Alien 5 movie would show would connect to the Xeno DNA/Eggs on the Derelict and what our Engineers had got themselves involved with in Prometheus but more in a Xeno Fest way...

BIT LATE SORRY!

And as i was busy, i may have forgoten some now lol, but Thursday i spoke a bit to the person who informed me of the stuff in this Topic, and he added some things, they are not new things but stuff he forgot to mention before hand...

Again with pinch of salt here is what THEY said and then my thoughts on it....

Fans hopping to hear the Space Jockey Story and for the Space Jockey to be something Alien. Will be disapointed as their will be clues but we wont get to see the actual Space Jockey mission, crash and how those Eggs got on that ship... There would be more clues to some connection between the LV 223 and LV 426 goings on..  The Space Jockey however is just a Engineer, and overtime he grew out of his Chair.

Do we need to know what happened? Will we let go of the Space Jockey not looking like our Engineers?  We just have to accept it, Ridley has said they are connected, the movie shows that for all intensive purposes Space Jockey/Engineer Derelict and Juggernaught are the same of very related.....   The purpose is the same, Bio-Weapon Cargo Carrying War Ships.... one has Eggs the other has Urns and maybe we would get some connection to how that could be.... who knows.

There is to be more clues but i guess how vague they would be is anyones guess, Prometheus left a lot, just you had to think about them.  The Chest Busted Cryo Pods on the Juggernaught are maybe another massive clue... and maybe another mission to LV 223 could study them in more depth, maybe interpret the Engineer goings on and Temple hieroglyphics and Mural more?

David and Shaw are set to meet more than one Life Form...

Again what is more than one?  is 3 Engineers 3 lifeforms? or one kind of life form, does any new Monster count..... well i would assume as the Engineer says he comes from Paradise we could see some Engineers, but Ridley said he never wanted to meet God in the first movie so our Engineers are not God and so there would be some other Race.  But how many who knows.... More than one is well very vague and ambigious.

The Hammerpedes wont feature, they only have limited life Span just as the Xenomorph does,  but they could procreate like the Xeno does.  But those unfortunate to go to LV 223 are not going to be Alone.  This is where one of the Two Main monsters will be shown.

What does that mean? Maybe the Adult Deacon? Also how long would a rescue mission take and be sent out?  So we dont know how long the Hammerpedes could live for.. and if indeed Xeno DNA produces Organisms that have a limited Life Span then this makes great sense as far as a Bio-Weapon goes... It would fit in with Alien canon, and even AVP as far as that Temple....and what if the Predators die but Xenos dont...

Hammerpedes as part Worm can re-produce they are hermaphrodites if they have Worm traits and so Two Hammerpedes could mate and thus both would get pregnant and produce Eggs, that are stored in a cocoon....   What could a Part Xeno Worm do?

Also the comment above could explain why no Xenos was found on the Derelect but only Eggs for some reason the Eggs Survive. And can do so for period of time.  I am not sure if it was Alien ideas, or in Aliens and who said it but i think someone on the production team hinted the Xeno only had limited life Span... But how long is limited?

The Goo is actually a Parasitic Micro Organism, similar to some kinds of Algae, it also is a Catalyst for creating and manipulating Life. It acts like a Virus.

Now when i think about that... some stuff that never added up now does... David did say "Organic" he also said "Big Things have Small Beginings" and when we see him examine the Drop on his Finger we did see inside the like buble of Goo it apear to be reacting there was movement inside... i thought it was a chemical reaction as the Goo had been exposed to enviromental changes....   we see the consistancy of the Goo at the start change as soon as the Sacrifical Bowl was opened.

However.. Micro Organism?  This is exactly what Spaights draft was.. Nano Scarabs.. what if the flying Scarabs was replaced by Nano Organisms.....  but why does it have a Goo apearence..?  Maybe because it contains hundreds of thousands if not millions of nano micro organisms...

come to think of it look at Sperm.... yep its a Sticky Goo like white/clear substance but under the microscope we get..

Is this what Holloways Eye Worm was? 

Also in the back ground of the Prometheus Fresco we have strange shapes....

Similar is found in the Alien unused one!

I always wondered what they was..... maybe indeed then these are what the Goo contains?  Certainly has to make me think about how i thought the Goo came from lol

The Xenomorph wont be shown but clues like we saw in the movie would be expanded upon but they are a combination of two Organisms DNA well the Origins are and one strand of DNA is Engineers.

If true how can this be.... the Fresco as shown above was interesting... is this connected?  The other one showed us a Xeno like Hands holding A Egg but  if we examine it more than it could actually be the creature in other Fresco, it has the same hands and arm.... so is his creature the result of Engineer DNA and something else... or is it these two in that fresco when combined that gives us the Origin to the Xeno.?

If this is true then it appears the Engineers created the Xeno or they was used by some other being to create the Xeno, the Xeno could still be Millions of years old however as our Engineers seem to be more than Millions of years old.

Also if the last two points are true, well it kind of goes against what i was interpreting as how they could have came across the Xeno and what the Fresco and Mural meant.... to a degree i must be a bit wrong but some parts would still fit.

Thats all i can recall.... if i remember more i would post.

Just realised when i looked at the OT...

I had 17 points..... but only 1-15 and no 16 actually i was told 18 or 19 points i must have edited the OT and deleted some by mistake i trying to think what those points was...

16) was about Budget as the person claimied its 50% more than Prometheus so $180M

18)  They told me that they had a finished draft as far as October 2014... and its just commitments of Ridley and cast members that is needed to be sorted.  And a few things had been slightly changed since then but as of March it was pretty much similar to the Final Draft they had in October....

When i read at the info released by these few sites, the points do seem to fit with what i was told at the end of March.

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Well i have spoken to the person who informed me about the Leaks today... this person has not first hand seen or been told anything, it is someone who had informed him... so its kinda one of them potential friend of friend of someone in the know scenerios and so as i said before take it with Pinch of Salt....

I asked if they had any more news or information and they said they spoken to that person last about 3 weeks ago and they dont wish to give more information but they indeed still claim what they said is True as Far as the ideas behind the movie as far back as early this year.. And that the more information that comes out and leaks that may occur such as Production Information will come to light after November and why they said come November we should start to see more and more things maybe being found out...  the person i know who spoken to this other person said that they mean its after November Production mainly starts and this would include gearing up for Shooting and thus, Costumes, Props, Locations and Cast Members will all start to be well away and so after November is when we could see the odd photo here and there are certain things... such as like when leaked photos of the Star Wars Sets came to light during Production of those last year etc.

The person i know tried to gauge some answers about certain things but not much new was said apart from that when this person had the information which was end of March the Person who gave him it had gained inside information about early March and end of Febuary.... and back since March 2015 the status of the Movie was as follows.

Draft Finally completed as of October 2014 (but changes can happen once shooting is about to start, and i guess a example of this is how some parts and dialog was different in Lindeloffs Final Draft compared to what we actually got on Screen and was Shot... i.e the Final Draft will enter a Shooting/Action Script and changes can happen at this point.

In the Process of September to December 2014 ideas about the Plot and Draft had been fleshed out as far as how they want things to look and so then Concept work started at the end of the year but also carried on early 2015 but its a work in progress as not much time is dedicated due to Ridleys other Projects.

As of March they had some Concepts worked on, and roughly knew what kind of Budget that the movie would have to work towards but this can change but its supposed to be 50% more than the Total Prometheus Budget but things can make this rise during Production..... the person seems to think there is a chance that a few things may be allowed to slightly go over budget rather than having to be scrapped due like with Prometheus Scenes they could not budget for....  If this is true then indeed it seems after some of the disapointments with Prometheus.. Fox and Ridley really do want to push things with this movie and make this one RIGHT!  This could also mean why they may indeed try and be less vague with stuff as far as unanswered questions because of criticism regarding Prometheus and its half answered questions.

They said indeed Casting was not yet done by then (March 2015) but they would have some ideas who to draft in and yes we all know Rappace and Fassbender are scheduled but off course they have to work around those Actors and others they want to sign up.. Work Schedule.  But the movie has a Larger Cast, and all the supposed Leak said is still the movie would require a Larger Cast than Prometheus.... and the tone this was mentioned the person i know thinks points to not just a few more cast members but its unknown how vastly more cast is needed.

Production was set to begin Fall 2015 and Shooting to Wrap up for most part by end of March 2016,  that was the idea as far as back in March 2015 but offcourse it looks like this has been pushed back but the leak has no information on this as they have not heard nothing new...  they either (if they telling the truth) are not directly involved... or they are keeping tight lipped.  So from this source they cant confirm a Shooting time only that it was to Originally Planned to Wrap up by end of March for majority of principal photography.

The person did not know the release date but they said it would  be unlikely in 2016 and more likely to be a March-April 2017 but thats not Garunteed but they said it looks likely to be released between Spring and Summer 2017 for certain.....

As far as new information on the Plot, the persons source said they have not had no changes or news since March 2015 and they had told them that the information given in March was all they could release... but they have touched up explaining a bit of that a bit more but are unwilling to spill more beans..

So only new things that are not new, but what the person i know was not told at the end of March but is information from then are as follows...

The movie has a very Bold Plot, they are trying to distance the Engineers and Earth and all the Ancient Culture and Gods links as far as Religons i.e  Gods created Earth and all thats on Earth connection, they wish to tone that down, well actually going for the route that Earth is not Important we are not the Centre of the Universe as in Ancient Cultures and Myths including Bible and Greek Myths etc.....  but we can draw lose connections between how Mankind came to come up with such stories and connection to the Engineers.  They said the movie is not about Mankinds creation by Godlike biengs in our Galaxy never mind Solar System but something more broader.

They also said that Paradise is not the Engineers Homeworld as such... just the focal point of the Engineers and the Hierarchy in regards to our Galaxy and it stands between the Galactic Centre and Earth.... and so is very far away.  They said the idea is to drop hints that the Engineer came from Paradise but this place is not where Creation is based from....

The person i know interprets this as if we look at Prometheus and God Connection, then yes we are talking about God and the Garden of Eden, Heaven and Hell which is set within our Planet located in our Solar System, and other cultures likewise are set in similar seting as far as Gods/Creation... be that Heaven or Mount Olympus or Nibiru or what ever.......    And he thinks reading from what he was told its not limited to the God/Creation as per Bible and other Ancient Cultures... as back then thousands of years ago most cultures did not know about the Galaxy and its size.... but this person and i agree seems to read into the information given to them, that you know what... it goes futher than these Engineers being from some place in our Galaxy.. they could be touching upon more than our Galaxy but the Universe in General....  In which case whoever the Higher Biengs could be... it could be that they  are not unique to our Galaxy and so Paradise could be just the Homeworld in our Galaxy but maybe not the only Headquarters.

Other Plot elements they only added few details, which sugest there are multiple layers of creation and it does not start with the Engineers and may not end with David... So far we have seen Engineers => Mankind => David.. but there are levels above this and maybe could be below...  (Well Ridley has hinted they may meet Gods in this movie and that they never wanted to met God in the first and Thus our Engineers are not the top of the Hierarchy.) They added that the theme of Father and Son and Son growing to be and see themselves as equal or greater than there Father and challenge for dominance and so Rebelion as a theme will be explored and Prometheus shows us the seeds of that within the movie.... and we see this in Ancient Culture and Religon right from the Bible and Lucifers Rebelion to overthrow God and Gods fear of this and War and casting Satan out of Heaven...  and with the Greek Mythos we see this on Multiple Levels,  of Father Son, Fear of Betrayal, Rebelion and being overthrown that results in drastic measures as we see, for example they said how Cronus ate his Own Children but Zues was replaced with a Stone... etc

They was told in March about lose connections to such things, as i mentioned on my first post about this so called leak.... well the above is just what 3 weeks ago the person i know managed to get from the source as far as a expantion....

As far as The Goo, they never added much to it only that it is the Power/Lifeforce that alllows for all creation and its a powerful Tool that has many applications and the movie of Prometheus vaguely tried to send us down a connection of use of such Power Corupts and can lead to destruction and what we was seeing was in a way similar to stealing of Fire by Prometheus and the Eating of the Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge etc.  The next movie will losely cover these things...

As far as Monsters they wont give any information but said the movie touches upon many Species of Life, and that two lifeforms we will see would be losely connected to the Xeno DNA.... and they cant give more information apart from that David wants to play God himself.

When asked about Alien links, they said the movie is distance from that but there would be answers that would vaguely explain LV 223 and what that was all about but not going to be concentrating on that aspect as the movie wishes to explore more deeper events...  But after the movie there would be more clues that people can use to add up a Xeno/LV 223 and LV 426 connection but we wont have a Spoon Fed explanation to the Xeno or Space Jockeys Story and we may never get a Spoon Fed Answer.

The person asked the source about Shaws death again and they said Shaw does not Die... but there is a big role she plays but they can not give any information on that..... this was said 3 weeks ago... in June the person said to this before... Technically Shaw does not Die... what ever that means....

They asked about what was meant by Prometheus was not the first time Mankind had been to the LV 223/LV 426 system.... they said again they cant say but we shall find out....

They are unwilling to go into details... and cover other stuff but the person i spoke to said while he source is not being as giving... they said more will come to light after Fall 2015 and by Summer 2016  there would be enough information out there that would SUPPORT THEIR CLAIMS!

Finally i forget the person said indeed the movie is set up to be more than 2 and how Bold the ideas are they could go off and make more than 3 movies with the Universe they are expanding... But this it not to say we are going to see a Prometheus 2,3, 4 and 5 etc...

So thats latest i can pass on, and again take it with a Pinch of Salt, as i have not directly spoken to would be source etc and it could be all just a Hoax... but they claim as time goes on that we will see things match what they said and we find out for sure by sometime in 2017...