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Thecook1122

MemberOvomorphNov-13-2015 4:50 PM

You guys should see what bloodydisgusting.Com just posted

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cuponator3000

MemberChestbursterNov-16-2015 9:22 AM

I saw the Alien facebook page post the title and plot synopsis! Did bloodydisgusting.com do the same? Oh no, Scott is finishing up the revisions! I think there was an article on the scified network about that recently as well! This is awesome! The news for the movie is ramping up! Woooo! 

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Chris

AdminEngineerNov-16-2015 10:24 AM
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cuponator3000

MemberChestbursterNov-16-2015 3:46 PM

Haha not until after I was at school though. Thats why I did't direct attention to you guys. Good work getting the scoop pretty early though

 

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Chris

AdminEngineerNov-16-2015 6:35 PM

News like this tends to spread like wild fire pretty quick haha it was a scramble. I literally left my day job to run home and post. haha

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oduodu

MemberXenomorphNov-16-2015 11:28 PM

Chris

I thought this was your
full-time job !!

Chris

AdminEngineerNov-17-2015 6:06 AM

It would be, but sadly ads don't pay that well and to improve user experience I've removed many ads already. I split my time between here and GNC now haha

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oduodu

MemberXenomorphNov-17-2015 12:30 PM

Sorry to hear that.
Thanks a bunch for
The site.
I think a lot of
People appreciate it.

Chris

AdminEngineerNov-17-2015 1:24 PM

It's a passion of mine and always will be, especially the PROMETHEUS angle of the network. It's how this all started after all. But, though ad cost might be down, server cost isn't budging haha, so gotta do what you gotta do to pay the bills.

Happy to know you enjoy the site though! Got lots planned for the new year, lots in the pipeline.

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BigDave

MemberDeaconNov-17-2015 3:57 PM

Yes interesting change of Title... and a Plot Synopsis that seems a bit different to the comments Ridley had been making right upto when the movie was changed to Paradise Lost......

We know they have Got Logan in to revise the Draft... and a few interesting things added before this came out was that he has big Plans for how David gets back together... and links to Ripley..... i wander as he said they was struggling with a Story for the next movie at a time he was then offered to work on The Martian...

Has he since then had few ideas, maybe that he got after working on The Martian and so they have got someone else in to change the draft that they had got done by October 2014?  Has the movie gone for another Change and how deep a change is it... are we talking Minor Tweeks?  Or Change as in Alien:Engineers to Paradise Scripts?

They said work is set to begin Febuary and release October 2017.... Thats 20 Months...  Prometheus from start of Shooting to release was 15 Months... from when Spaights worked on a Drafts in 2009 untill Prometheus Release was about 32 Months.... from Lindeloffs was about 22 Months ...  however before Lindeloff had started work on his draft Production had begun as far as concepts on ships and Aliens and Engineers etc months before Lindeloff had began to re-do the script.

So maybe the few Changes wont effect some of the ideas and production that may allready be underway?

Especially if Shooting is to start in Febuary.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

MemberDeaconNov-17-2015 4:34 PM

The Plot Synopsis is interesting... does seem to not quite fit what Ridley had said before....  Here is a Plot Synopsis made by me that incorporates what Ridley had been saying about the Next Movie over the last 2 years.

After the discovery that Mankind's Origins did not originate from Earth, and horrid truth that our potential creators wanted our destruction. David and Shaw go off in search of the Origins of the Engineers. Shaw still holding the belief that there has to be a Higher Creator to the Mortal Engineers they came across after the Project Prometheus....  Shaw has many unanswered Questions... will David be merely a Passenger on this Voyage or now Free, does he have his own Agenda... Will Shaw Find Paradise... or will Paradise be a Living Hell?  And will they finally meet their Maker? Or their undoing? Is creation and the universe divine and with splendour or disaster and with sacrifice.

 

The above Plot Synopsis covers everything what Ridley had hinted at over the years.... the end of the first movie left Two Open Endings to Exlpore..... Ridley said that logically you can only go forward one way, and that would be to follow Shaw and David on their mission to find Paradise.

Ridley then futher over the last 18 months or so teased us that, Paradise could be a very dark and ominous place, and that the beings they would finally meet are not Gods, not in the traditional sense, but beings who are far from Benevolent.

Ridley hinted that our Engineers or indeed what Shaw finds would relate more to Fallen Angels than God. Even hinting at the Devil.

He hinted before that, that they never wanted to meet God in the first movie... this hinting that Engineers are not God or Gods, and this would lend weight to Shaws Faith in wanting to find out who created them (Engineers).

David would be carrying Hell with him (Cargo) and what happens if the Goo infects Machine? or God?

Ridley latter hinted that Shaw and David will go on their mission to get answers, but what they uncover is far from what maybe Shaw would be expecting.

What they would find would be a Scene of a Disaster...... which hints at a catastrophe on Paradise like witnessed on LV-223?

Ridley hinted that they are going to go the route to show who and why the Biological Warefare was created (Goo? or Xeno) and was it created to protect them.. but from who?    They would be aiming to eventually show us more of how the Xeno came to be but this would be left for a 3rd movie or even a 4th... but the seeds would be planted as far as start to show Who created the Biology that would eventually lead to the Alien in the first movie.

Ridley hinted the movie would follow some themes from Paradise Lost, but he was vague about it but it would however have a similar tone to it but thats where it ends......

Then he hinted that as in Paradise Lost, you had one Attractive Guy who did what ever they want, had all the fun and all the Girls... while one Less Attractive Guy stayed at home being boring.... 

He then hinted at not only how does creation occur, but how is it that certain Planets have the right Properties to be able to Support Life.... is all that Accidental? Was the Big Bang even what happened? 

He Also hinted before at how can we take for granted that Mankind was the Engineers only creation and Earth the only World they created life..... he also touched upon this not long ago by saying that Earth is not the only Place that may have Human Life.

And where is the Big Guy behind all this...?

He did add few more things over the years but they are all very Bold Ideas..... and he collaborated with Dark Horse for how they would cover the Goo/Xeno and Engineers so as to not tread on anyones toes but that they was in the end all the same Toes anyway....

Well the latest Plot Synopsis seems to differ from what we have been fed over the years....

Is it more than coincidence that Blomkamps Alien 5 that was going well, and liked by Ridley and planned, but had a few things that clashed with ideas for a Prometheus sequel and how Ridley wanted to handle certain aspects....

To now the Movie on Hold, and who knows what will become of it...  Now we get not ONE but TWO Name Changes that both start with the Prefix Alien:  and we get news of Another Group of Travelers inbound to same place David and Shaw are off too, then just before the 2nd Change we get News that there is a new Writer Hired to Make Changes to the STORY

Finally to get a Synopsis that seems to imply that David Alone reaches some World far in the Galaxy, that somehow another group of Explorers is heading to the same place to discover David all alone?  Do they accidentaly discover the same Place... and if its what they hopped to be Paradise but then its not and dark place when they find it, surely they would detect it was not a ideal Paradise World if they found it on their own accord?   Only explantion is they intercepted some transmision and directions from Shaw or David that led them to also think they would be finding Paradise!

Is David waiting their to great them? or has he laid a Trap.... how can this movie link more to Alien than Prometheus if the World is a Dead place with No Life..... something tells me David may be wanting to Play God and use this Crew as Test Subjects...

This is what it seems we are looking at... another kind of Alien/Star Beast as opposed to Prometheus kind of Plot or what Prometheus 2 seemed to be leading us to....

We shall have to give it time, but this news looks like some Changes have been made to what Clues Ridley had been giving over the Years.... surely he has not had a U-Turn Last Minute and if so how long before he made such a U-Turn.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

MemberDeaconNov-17-2015 5:21 PM

Be interesting to see what happened to Shaw.... lets look at some Facts to a degree that make this Synopsis a little odd!

1) Ridley hints there is a interesting idea about how David ends up, this seems in regards to being from a Headless Corpse, but what about Shaw.... David maybe can do her no Harm Headless..... how did they leave LV-223 what state would David had to have been in, in order to Fly that Ship.... surely not Headless?

Ridley hinted that Shaw would eventually put him back together.... this was a while ago mind, but does this mean put him back together before they left?

How does David Pilot the Ship with out being assembled? Can Shaw Fly the Ship with Davids Help? Does she go into Cryo-Sleep?

2) Does David do something or use Shaw in some way before they get to Paradise? Is Shaw used in this interesting idea for David? Does he use her Body? Does he have Shaw on that Ship in Stasis? Has he infected Shaw before they arrive at Paradise.?

Seems missed opportunity.

3) So the World is dead, only David is left alone.... yet the Explorers hope to find Paradise too, surely if such a world is Dark and Dead then the Ships Sensors would show this... or at least a World like LV-223 and thus nothing like Paradise... or Earth... do these explorers happen to by coincidence in search of worlds to colonize and find the same place that David is on and what more coincidence if this is the supposed Homeworld of the Engineers.

Did they detect a signal from David and Shaw, was it a Signal from Paradise? or wherever David is.... or was it a transmision that Shaw had send as they left or before they left LV-223 but either way did this Colony Ship lock onto any signal or transmision that leads them to this place?

4) So what of the Engineers, what of who ever is above the Engineers and other grand things Ridley hinted at, and how do we get to see seeds to Alien and a movie that backs into it from the back end?  Are they all dead?  Dead upon Arival of David?  Are there any clues as to what happened to them, any evidence left behind and remnants of such Evil Biology?  Or is it the Biology that David has on his Ship that comes into play.... or has he already done so by the time the Travelers Arrive?

5) What year are we talking about? How many years after Prometheus? And bare in Mind Prometheus was the Jewel in the Weyland Fleet by the time of 2091 or why else would Weyland Travel on such a important last mission on a inferior ship.... Bare in mind Prometheus Traveled at less than 20LY per Year.......  How Far in the Galaxy was this Colony Ship when it some how decided to go to the Planet that David is on?

Yes Weyland Site has contradictions on Space Travel...  POL 6362 discovered in year 2071 distance 3249 LY and futherest planet a Manned Mission had been to (note this does not have to mean it was Manned in 2071) But Prometheus would have taken over 160 years to reach such a place?   The Futhest place from Earth in our Galaxy is 980'000 LY.

6) How does this back into Alien?  Timeline wise we have to remember Alien is set 28 years after..... Prometheus and well it seems unless they are changing the idea.... or using Time Travel... that the Space Jockey had been on LV-426 for a much longer time than 28 years never mind less....

Unless it will lead to events that show the creation or explanation of a Organism that is most like the Alien?

7) How does a movie where a Group of Colonist find David and a place of Disaster, and what we can only assume would be events that would lead to more Death and Horror than Prometheus Gave us... and maybe some Organism related to the Goo and Xeno... how does such a thing and Horrors which lead to a 3rd movie that even then may not quite get to the Back End of Alien?

Only way that makes sense to all of this and fingers crossed..... and so as to not contradict the Timeline.... (i.e our Explorers Survivors getting back to tell of Tales of the Xeno before Alien/Aliens...) Never mind what becomes of LV-223...

Is that Alien:Covenant is a sequel to the prequel Prometheus but is set after events of Part 3...

I.e David is on Paradise... and awaits new Travelers long after the event of him and Shaw ariving there, it would make more sense if such a event and meeting of Engineers and getting some answers was a event that happens that leads to disaster, and Alien: Covenant will cover the finding of the Aftermath of such a Event.... And that Part 3 or the end of Part to may start to show.... Flash Backs to Events that led David to Paradise and why we see no Engineers or other beings and why we see no Shaw...

So Part 2 is set after Part 3 if you get me?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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