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i would hope they dont go that route.... or even touch up on any related subject because we could end up with a Terminator Genisys .... where we go back in time with a Ripley who is cast by someone else LOL
But as far as Time Travel i think its a Can of Worms they are better off leaving alone...... but there is the potential for it being such a event.
Beihn seemed to hint that Alien 3 and Alien R never happened.
Weaver hinted that they go off as separate paths, alternative routes...
Which means we the fans get two alternative realities where neither are Canon to Each other... we simply have a situation after Aliens where we then fans are presented with a..... here is one story that could have happened after Aliens.... and here is another alternative and so its kind of like if any of us fans want to consider AVP movies as Connected.
We could see that it not quite like that.... but we are supposed to look at Alien 5 as a ... WHAT IF! as in what if the events at the start of Alien 3 never happened.
Blomkamp said that Alien 3 and Alien R are not being de-cononized his movie does not wipe such events out but bypasses them.....
Again this could mean the same as above, and that this is a alternative WHAT IF.... so us the fans have a TWO POSSIBLE Scenarios to follow and enjoy
Or they could Canon both of them together, in a way where some sort of Temporal Space Rift Occurs a Event where essentially leads to the Sulaco being split into two realities... one carries on to Alien 3 and the other to Alien 5
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
As far as Alien 5 goes... seems like changes are made to the first ideas.... Blomkamps movie was to be set not to far after Aliens... and Newt was not mentioned or even drawn and concept works does not show a Ripley no more than 10 years older.
The idea now is for it to be set 20+ years latter than Aliens and for Newt to be in the movie and indeed be passed the Torch... it seems like after Aliens Newt, Hicks and Ripley all got back to some kind of Normality of Life.... until some event 20 years latter brings them together to fend off the Xenomorph threat once again.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Alien3 is practically written like a dream: mysterious EGG is somehow on board and pointed at Ripley. ?!? Hyper chambers are different.(don't care about Fincher's design reason..I'm talking story). I think the fan base would accept 'something' happened.
I would leave it to every fans imagination..they'd would do a better job.
Forced to write a explanation: I'd go with a time rift....A Massive alien artifact warps space(neutron star like)..something along those lines...I'll think about a better plot later.
yea I'm wondering what is up with that bomb on ripleys waist .... I would love to see an alternative route leading after aliens....discounting alien 3....but i dont know about this..... ;/
She's already died so many times already....im not really about happy endings all the time but why doesn't she just live out her last days as Ripley and find peace..(of course after getting her revenge on the company)...(yea I know, a Ripley happy ending seems unlikely and possibly boring to most, but it would be a change from her 800th death lol) I personally have already seen her die so many times, the thought of her dying again would be kinda repetitive u know? but i know that won't happen. I think she will be killed off and Newt will take the torch....all alot of hollywood cash grabbing stuff really... it will never end lol. Also her depicted with a bomb around her waist gives the plot away that she will indeed die... again lol meh
I guess thats why I like what Ridley is doing, he's going backwards and giving me stuff I've never seen before. I know Neil Blomkamp will refresh things up bit but it just seems so bleak lol and so towards the end of the franchise into what i feel will be probably another chappy without the comedy. idk
I did enjoy Elysium
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"Must be something we haven't seen yet.."__Bishop
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Time travel . . . hmmm! ;) Not for me!
I'd imagined that this film could sit between ALIENS and ALIEN 3 but comments above would seem to throw that idea out of the water.
i.e. Perhaps the holy trinity of R, N & H were found, purposefully, by WY after ALIENS. They had useful knowledge the company wanted in connection to a discovery of Engineer tech/biology.
They help with this in some way . . . Hicks/Newt die, Ripley lives and they are all put back into stasis with a memory wipe for Ripley and sent off in the direction of the prison planet . . .
And that's why I don't write scripts, lol!
I think it can work (A5) and personally I can suspend my disbelief to a certain degree regarding the other sequels, so long as the plot for A5 is good! It would be good to have a more continuous sequel to ALIENS. A3 was good but kind of messed up the franchise continuity imo.
There's no reason to worry, JC thinks the script is gangbusters. Then again, his mind may be overtaxed from having 4 Avatar sequels to work on.
Terminator Genisys? You mean the movie that almost single-handedly killed the Terminator franchise? The movie in which Sarah & Kyle travel to a future that shouldn't exist to fight their terminator-fied son that they never conceived?
Genisys rant aside the use of time travel could be what Neill Blomkamp has in mind to retcon the Alien franchise, but I sure hope not. Since District 9 Blomkamp's movies have been hit and miss with audiences which could be one of the reasons Ridley pushed to make Covenant first; because of a lack of confidence in Blomkamp's ability as a director.
It was all a dream Ripley had while asleep at the wheel of the time machine. It would have been more obvious if they hadn't edited out the talking ice cream cone in A3.
No dreams. No time travel.
You can get away with time travel to do reboots in series where time travel is actually a thing - ie. Terminator, Star Trek.
It's not a thing in Alien, and would be - excluding any miracles - creatively void. As would "it was all a dream".
Yes SM....
Thats why i think its just a case of them re-booting from after Aliens... where its like ... We have this Sequel that goes off to Alien R and we have this sequel that goes off to Alien 5, and 6 etc.
I think its going to be as simple as that.... so they give a alternative sequel direction... which is then down to fans to still view Alien 3 and Alien R as a alternate sequel to Aliens.
The only way they can do it otherwise could be tricky, and of all the scenarios if they try to add them all as Actual Cannon events in that sense could be a rift in time and space..
But then we would need a cause for this... rift!
However who knows with Alien Covenant as it could be they are explaining events post 2093 lead to the Derelict that the Nostromo come across in 2022
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
"I think its going to be as simple as that.... so they give a alternative sequel direction... which is then down to fans to still view Alien 3 and Alien R as a alternate sequel to Aliens."
Yep.
Alien3 and Resurrection don't have enough of a fanbase that they need appeasement.
I think the Franchise is one that has Polarized a lot of fans...
It would be right to assume every Alien Fan, no matter how casual or Fanatical all see Alien 1979 as being Canon and a movie they all enjoy.
Aliens has a lot of fans but there is a percentage who are not keen on the Camerons Aliens.. both the look of the Xeno, the introduction of the Queen and how it was a Action Movie.
Alien 3 came along and again a lower percentage of fans enjoy or see this as canon than they did with Aliens.. it was a movie that upset some because it killed off Newt and Hicks... Upset others because it killed off Ripley.... but its also regarded by a decent percentage of fans as being a decent movie and giving Ripley a Ending.
I think Alien Resurrection was a Popcorn flick that fits more in line with the AVP movie... Story wise and evolution to being a true sequel to Alien 3 it was a movie that many fans dont regard as good or canon but it still had its fans and still made money.
So i am not sure Alien 3 and Alien R dont have a big fan base, i think they have the smallest fanbase compared to the others.. i think Prometheus and Alien 3 are about level as far as Fans reception.
I think Alien R actually damaged Alien 3... myself.
But i think Fox are seeing a way to appease fans who may had not been pleased with Alien Resurrection or those upset at Alien 3
But i also think they see $$$$$$ as if they can make this work, and connect with Alien Covenant and its sequel so they rub off more as connected as Canon....
Then it does mean Fox could potentially if its all done well.... they could make another 1-2 movies with Newt as the new leading lady.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Hopefully they start using Rebecca not Newt as her name.
What was the Sulaco doing around Fiorina 161?!
It wasn't. Fiorina was just the nearest planet.
And nobody calls her Rebecca. Except her brother.
"Aliens has a lot of fans but there is a percentage who are not keen on the Camerons Aliens.. both the look of the Xeno, the introduction of the Queen and how it was a Action Movie."
That percentage is so small, it doesn't really affect anything.
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So ...The Sulaco 'warped' to this location when the fire started? Why was it even in the neighborhood? Should have been Earth bound and in deep space.
Course corrections take hours if not days(even in Star Trek).
Convenience.
It's a straight shot from Z2R back to Sol. A ship wouldn't pass through any other systems. But they had to crash an EEV somewhere.
Even if it had changed course, there's about 30 seconds between the alarms starting and the EEV being launched. The Sulaco can travel around 39AU in that time, which is around the distance from the sun to Pluto, so it's a fair way - but in interstellar terms, it's not that much.
Possibly the Sulaco changed course for the nearest colony when it detected something running around on the ship?
That percentage is so small, it doesn't really affect anything.
'We are the 1%.' :D Personal inclinations mean everything to the person.
Cameron's MORB design was influenced by physical limitations, but also by Cameron putting his stamp on things. His ridged skull was more insectile, and, to me, more pedestrian. It's not unreasonable to look at the insect world for inspiration, but it is terrestrial.
This becomes a question of how likely is nature to repeat itself in the universe, and the answer, based on what we understand is: likely. But the MORB so far stands outside of that. At least that's why it's beloved by fans of things dark and icky.
If we want to examine what happened with the Sulaco (and convenience does settle things) then let's ask this: what became of the Sulaco itself?