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Sevastopol hive:queen or egg morphing

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ninXeno426

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For those who have played Alien Isolation,you already know late in the game you find your way into the xenomorph hive and learn that there's been more than one the whole time.Now naturally i expected to run into a queen,but never did(it would made a great late game twist).It got me thinking what if there was no queen,what if the alien born from Foster was the standard xenomorph we know and it kidnapped people and begun the egg morphing process hinted at in The alternate cut of Alien.The reason i think this is when you destroy the hive some xenomorph survive,if there was a queen a possible psychic link would have killed them of right?What do you guy's think?

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I have not played the game, well i did one go on my brothers PS4 and got as far as when you was being chased by  those two humans and had to hide.. but i got caught and so i never saw any Alien lol

I never owned the game as i only have a PS3 and Xbox 360 and hardly play them so buying a next Gen console to play a few games i just never saw the point.

May invest now they cheaper but as i have not touched my other consoles in ages.. i would hate to buy a Ps4 and play it a few days in a year.

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BigDave the game is available for ps3 and Xbox 360,it goes pretty cheap these days.

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The part of the game you stopped at, the xeno was just around the corner! You were so close!

And yea, as ninXeno426 stated, it's available on PS3 and Xbox 360. I have it for 360 and it's totally worth it.

The game is completely in the spirit of the first Alien film. It is long, the dialogue is great, the story is fantastic, and the horror is unbearable.

The beauty of it is you don't really fight the Xeno. You sneak around and do your best to avoid it. The best you do is scare it into the air ducts with a flame thrower (if you have one). If it catches you, the feeling you get in your stomach is unmatched.

The game also breathes life back into the Ash style android, and you actually do get to fight and kill many of those. Lot's of fun but also horrifying.

Last high point I'll mention, the game really builds up the aspect of the Alien lore involving commercial space industries. The story is heavily entwined with concepts of competing companies in the terraforming and synthetic person industries.

Highly recommend you grab a used copy for your system.

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I never expected a queen as it was James Cameron's "termite queen+drones/warriors" idea.

Alien Isolation was heavily based on Alien, thus no queen. 

I'd like to see the Queen in all her glory again in another well made Aliens game though. 

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Big Dave

I have it on PS3 too. You could pick it up cheap now.

Sometimes the Alien has you dead to rights, knocks you down and runs away. It takes a bit to reorient and realize you are still alive lol. Highly recommended for Alien fans.

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i honestly think that the queen was just an evoulution to the egg morphing i mean think about it it would be time consuming and difficult to turn every host into an egg so they simply evolved too have a queen so basically they used egg morphs untill they evolved

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Alright guys i did a little research,and here's why i think egg morphing is a better idea.Now it is official that there is a queen on board but i think there are a lot of holes in this idea.First Foster is the only infected person brought aboard the station.Unlike Aliens where there were other expeditions to the derelict,no one aboard Sevastopol Station went down to LV-426.If Russ Jordan didn't birth the queen then someone else did.Thats not the case with sevastopol.On the AVP wikia it states Foster birthed a drone and that a queen is only theory.This actually calls the queens reproductive capabilities into question,on whether another alien is required or not.This is where i really start to question the presence of a queen.If a queen is born then how does it produce eggs?I know this been long speculated about(there's another thread going on about it right now)but if theres a queen where did it go,who's the poor sap that stumbled across her?Another thing we know about a xenomorph hive is that while the queen lays the eggs,drones are responsible for capturing and cocooning human hosts.They're also responsible for transporting eggs for the host (think of Newt).While it's not impossible for this to happen,but the idea of a guy stumbling across the queen,getting face hugged an sitting there till it bursts is a little silly.After all there are a few corpses found on Sevastopol that were victims of chestburster,meaning they were found before it could happen.This is why i think egg morphing is a better scenario,even for the birth of a queen.A drone is born,it kidnaps people and turns them into eggs.By then maybe or maybe not a queen is born from a new host that has been face hugged from one of these eggs.Over all i think egg morphing is a better and more likely scenario.Feel free to dispute and point out any holes in this theory.P.S. sorry about the bad/lack of punctuation.

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Nice research. I missed some of that in haste during the game and just wanting to find door codes and such.

 My simple answer is that I stick with Creative Assembly who categorically stated their devotion was to Alien and not Aliens.

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I agree completely.Egg morphing is more logical when you break it down.

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I am working on the script of my version of Alien: Isolation so do you think I should use egg morph or a queen?

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Movie fan: I would suggest the egg morphing. The idea of a queen is alright but it has been used so much by now (Aliens, Alien 3, AR, and maybe more) so it probably won’t hurt to try something else. Good luck, let us know when you are finished with the script.

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it would be cool to work in both and tie them together.

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Then I will be using egg morphing, many creepy elements ;)

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Egg morhping.I think it's a good idea worth exploring more.

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"If a queen is born then how does it produce eggs?"
Possibly through A-sexual reproduction which many organisms including some sharks and reptiles are capable of.

"Another thing we know about a xenomorph hive is that while the queen lays the eggs,drones are responsible for capturing and cocooning human hosts.They're also responsible for transporting eggs for the host (think of Newt).While it's not impossible for this to happen,but the idea of a guy stumbling across the queen,getting face hugged an sitting there till it bursts is a little silly."
In the time a queen spends maturing into an adult, there is no reasons why she couldn't prowl air ducts and dark conduits (as an adolescent) seeking potential 'first hosts' to capture and take to the place where she is planning to lay eggs. There's also no reason why she can't cocoon them herself. She really would only need to capture one or two hosts, cocoon them near her laying spot, then settle in and let her ovipositor mature (probably in less than a day) to start producing the first eggs for her initial hosts.

"After all there are a few corpses found on Sevastopol that were victims of chestburster,meaning they were found before it could happen."
What do you mean they were found before it could happen?

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Thanks for pointing some things out.These are some things i hadn't considered.What i meant there is that they were found before the alien could burst through.

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Having trouble recalling that part of the game. It's been a year since I played through it. Is this when you go into the morgue?

My gal and I are currently playing through it this month (very slowly) so maybe I'll get the chance to revisit the scene you speak of. Is this during the in-game situation or is it a log on one of the Sevastopol terminals?

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Well first of all there is Foster's corpse Lying on the operating table in the San Cristobel medical center.But also in there you can find a corpse in a wheelchair that appears to be the victim of a chestburster.For further reference check out Alien Isolation on the avp wikia,the other corpse's are acknowledged there.That's were i did a lot of my research,because It's been about six months since i last played it but i did remember the second corpse.There might be more.If you find any more let me know.

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"This actually calls the queens reproductive capabilities into question,on whether another alien is required or not."

It isn't.

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Been a while, but I saw chest burst victims in the area I escaped with all the eggs.

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