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we seem to be divided at times at what IS canon. as no one who is in the 'qualified' position has actually stated what is canon, I would say it is easier for us, the fans, to say what ISNT canon rather than what is. I personally, would include books and comics and just say the avp movies are not canon. what r ur thoughts?

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To be perfectly honest it's really up to the viewer, regardless of what anyone says. I couldn't care less about people forcing their or others beliefs as to what is or isn't canon on others.

For me personally, Prometheus isn't canon. There are such loose connections to the first film that it could easily be disregarded as expanded universe along with AC imo. I'm fine with that.

Even Ridley himself has stated that Prometheus is a "parallel/alternative universe" film. (EDIT: if I recall it correctly)

I have full respect to other people who consider Prometheus canon and/or disregard any Alien sequel as canon.

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When did he say it was a "parallel universe"?

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SM

You could check above but I will pose the question again. Please answer it:

 

"I do.  He works at Fox."

When you say "he", whom do you mean?

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F'ning a Neomorph.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

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"When you say "he", whom do you mean?"

I mean the guy at Fox who manages the license.

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I believe he's asking for a name.

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I couldn't find the source, I think he said it in the BAFTA interview but I could be wrong. 

I'm absolutely certain he said it though, or I wouldn't have mentioned it.

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I don't think he meant parallel universe in the literal sense. and when he said that was he not talking about alien3 and AR so not to disrespect the directors of those movies or the fans of those films?

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Please stop dilly dallying. The Scified world is watching to see if you have the real goods.

If you do not that is ok. Just cop to it and we will move on to more important issues like discussing vaginal similarities to the facehuggers.

 

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dk it isn't just the hugger that was designed to have similarities to that particular, amazing body part (lol meant in good spirit with no offence meant to anyone). in an interview, when giger designed the derelict, he designed the entrance to resemble the same thing

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Yeah it always looks weird when they walk in it.

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"I believe he's asking for a name."

I believe you're correct.  I've already said I'm not broadcasting it. The opinion of some fan who doesn't believe me is neither here nor there.

 

"I couldn't find the source, I think he said it in the BAFTA interview but I could be wrong. 

I'm absolutely certain he said it though, or I wouldn't have mentioned it."

He makes mention of Weyland Corporation and it tying into Weyland Yutani in the film commentary, which doesn't sound "parallel" in the usual sense.

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Neomorph said- "For me personally, Prometheus isn't canon."

If PROMETHEUS, AC and any propsed sequels are "backing in to A L I E N", as Sir Ridley put it, how could they not be considered canon?

Just sayin' :) 

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At the end of the day I do agree with the remainder of your post Neomorph- "To be perfectly honest it's really up to the viewer, regardless of what anyone says."

No one will ever convince me to accept novels, comics, games, AvP, Colonial Marines etc, etc as canon.

When Ridley has finished with his sequels they alone are going to be my personal canon.

So that will be A L I E N, PROMETHEUS, AC and further sequels to those. I will disregard everything else. That's going to be my choice!

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

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@Lone

Please read my whole post, you clearly missed my point.

EDIT: Seems like you went back and read my whole post.

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To be honest.... its a  mess really.... and seems Alien Fandom has a bad reaction to Canon compared to how Star Wars fans usually can look at non-canon stuff.

I think it needs to be sorted and a Tidy up..... and so what SM says i think in part is the way to go....  I do think some of the Comics and Games Post 2014 do pose some problems though.

I hope by the time we get the prequels done and maybe a Alien 5  (A ALIEN 5 WILL HAPPEN) that they then have a clear line as far as Canon and then a new Reference book to Tidy it up would be nice.

In the mean time its personel preference really...  we can surely say the Movies are 100% canon...  the lose ends, potential holes open to debate... and interpretation that i hope movies would cover at some point... rather than have to reference to Games and Comics that at times can pose some Points that are a bit at conflict or open up problems....  Fire and Stone one example.

But the Games and Comics do open up some ideas that maybe can be worked on in a Movie or Book thats more Canon....  like the AC Books which include a prequel of sorts... i would consider these to be Canon....

I do find the Alien Isolation fits very well as Canon though.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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Yes Neomorph I understand exactly what you meant, it's just that I broke up my reply into two postings! :)

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As far as ALIEN 5......

It will happen, at some point... because it had some interesting ideas, interesting ways to carry on the Franchise maybe touched upon Engineers and more Xeno experiments.

Its not in works now due to Alien Prequels needing to be done first and then Weavers Avatar and other Schedules which bring us at the end to her Age in what 3-5 years.

But this does not mean the ideas could be tweaked a bit... they would have to change Ripleys role a bit, and Hicks... but the other ideas i think could be evolved and indeed a Alien 5 which would pass the Torch onto Newt and cover the ideas Blomkamp had just maybe have to deal with Ripley and Hicks more different.... i.e now set it not 20+ years after Aliens but shift it to 30+ instead.

Then i think it would maybe still get done... but differently

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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Yes Lone I acknowledged that :) now let's be bff's forever lol 

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Any discussion about what is or is not canon always ends in disagreement. That's why I think it should just be left to the individual to make their own choice, but remain respectful of other peoples choices.

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

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