Do you think that the Trilobite from Prometheus will be in Alien: Covenant?

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MemberFacehuggerFebruary 05, 2017We now have proof thanks to Chris, that a Trilobite is in the script and seen on set in Alien: Covenant [see here]. Thanks to AVP galaxy, we all know that Neomorphs are scripted to burst of infected crew members. Now we all think that from the trailer, the guy getting his back exploded... well that's a neomorph. But what if it isn't. We also know there is your everyday unfriendly xenomorph in Alien: Covenant (also thanks to AVP galaxy) is going to be in the film, so what if the result of a Trilobite infecting a human (or engineer) is a queen? I think the reason why the Deacon looked different and birthed different, cause it was bred through an engineer. The engineer is a complete different species (although we are closely related), so there is definitely going to be another result if a Facehugger or Trilobite peregrinates a Engineer, and maybe the Deacon is a queen. We never got to see the "Natural Birth" of the Trilobite, since Shaw removed it in Vicker's medpod, So do you think that we'll see the Trilobite in Alien: Covenant?!
Perhaps Shaw became a bit of a Trilobite machine. That would be bad enough with a Medpod on hand, but without one?
We don't know that the contents of the Ampule David infected Holloway with was meant for Earth, it could be that all the capsules contained variants of Bio Former. One thing we've seen consistently from Alien to Prometheus is the host DNA influencing the descendant, so maybe the Trilobite inherited it's coloring and hair from Shaw, along with physical traits to enable it to survive in her environment? Maybe it was a base model Hugger meant to impregnate something much bigger than an Engineer?
Maybe Huggers come in many shapes and sizes.
@Thoughs_Dreams
Indeed the Trillobite and Deacon was really just a plot device to show the Black Goo was ultimately related to the Xenomorph in some way, so we was given a kind-of Face Hugger that produces a kind-of Xenomorph and with other vague clues i think maybe they hoped that would give Fans the idea that the Xeno was a creation and experiment carried out by the Engineers on that place.
So then they could retain the Mystery about it and then move on to other things... but seems Fans in general was disappointed and the Xenomorph wont die, it wont lay down in the minds of fans.
So Fox has to ultimately again show us more clues to how/when and why.
I think indeed we would see Organisms that are now more related to the Xenomorph.
The Question about Trilobite is something as i had said, that could potentially still happen. This would depend if David wishes to try and use the same experiment on the couples of Covenant
Or if the infection was not Holloways Sperm but that Holloway was the vessel needed to pass the Parasite to Shaw, if so then indeed David could re-create the Trillobite with Shaw again.
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Not quite sure if this has been discussed here but I thought it may be worth mentioning. Either myself or someone on another thread had posited some time ago that David may have been left with no choice but to expose Shaw to black goo in order to save her from life threatening injuries. I'd take this a step further with the following premise:
Let us imagine Shaw does in fact continue to produce trilobites. If others are correct in their speculations on David deeply caring for Shaw, then perhaps it is the case that as she continued to produce trilobites, David had to remove them to save her. On realizing she was not going to stop producing, he set her up with a makeshift configuration to keep her alive while allowing for fast and easy removal of the trilobites as they were produced. In essence, David turns Shaw into a factory but with the pure intention of saving her life and easily containing each new trilobite.
As each one is produced, David naturally begins studying them and eventually experimenting. It is maybe the entire reason David has become this mad scientist in the first place. Except he is not mad, he is only trying to preserve his companion and following the investigative tendencies of his which were established in Prometheus. The trilobite(s) as a threat to Shaw as well as David's loyalty to her (if he is) may end up being the reason for everything that follows the story of Prometheus.
@QueenElizabethShaw Great point, cause we know he's "experimenting" and I mean she received the infected sperm from Halloway, her entire.... could be infected with the blackgoo meaning if the next time her body produces and egg.... BAM trilobite.
intriguing theory. the black goo morphs her into a queen and her womb is her version of the queens ovipositor and she continues to produce trilobites. I could go with that theory on davids motivations being mis-interpreted by others as just a mad evil scientist but in fact he is experimenting to see if he can reverse the effects. he has ran out of available species to experiment with and realises his and shaws only real hope is for a human to be infected. due to his affection for shaw he wont experiment on her but someone he is unfamiliar with will do till he finds a cure.
Big Dave: Yep, that is my understanding as far as the Trilobite and the Deacon go. I wasn’t annoyed about how the Trilobite (the big fat Blob) looked it is just that it could have been so much better done on screen. Look at the size, how is this one supposed to move fast? Alright it is science fiction but come on, really? The Trilobite worked because it was the closest to the Xenomorph that there was (except for the Deacon) but the design wasn’t very much to be impressed of.
I agree that it is good if they can remain the mystery but they got to have better monsters this time. The monsters were alright in Prometheus so I won’t totally bash them but they could have been better, that is my point.
Hopefully they will make AC tied more into the Xeno this time. I hope that they get the human characters right. The Xeno seems to me to be a symbol for disease, death, and things like that. Maybe it can be said that it is there to tell us a story about various themes.
Hey need to be careful so they won’t tell use everything about the Xenomorph. It must have some mystery after the background story is done. The alien prequels shouldn’t be an A-Z about the Xeno, that would be lame. More Xeno related monsters would be cool but I don’t think that we only need to see the original monster.
Queen Elisabeth Shaw:
That is interesting but check this out:
What if David uses Shaw for producing Trilobytes but then he figures out that there could be modified things of it. David wants her to give birth to more advanced life forms because he wants to know how advanced life forms that he can make. Shaw becomes like a machine or something similar for David’s search for perfection of whatever he is up to. He already said something about superior species so he could keep that in mind when he is about to create new things and to create one must first destroy (I like that quote and it can be applied to many different situations, about art, medicines, and so on). Maybe he wants to take revenge on mankind to have them as a tool for his creation and Shaw becomes like an example of that. I can be totally wrong about this of course, it is just something that occurred to me but it is interesting to speculate about things.
I am also entertaining this idea (and others like it.) I think we could see either one. I actually pasted my above post in the "David's Army" thread to which Big Dave offered up some thoughts. I clarified my position a bit and in reading your response, I feel I can offer the same response. I'll paste BigDave's quote below with my response
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"If David is more compassionate, and Shaw treats him ok, but then indeed she is infected and David tries to help but he know she will continue to create off spring then David would realize she is beyond help, but why kill her... put her out of her misery?
There would in this case be nothing for her... but then it would allow David to may-as well use her for his own Ends and Curiosity."
This is exactly what I'm getting at. It would fit very well with how David handled his discovery of Shaw's pregnancy in Prometheus. I should have specified that this is only how I imagine we might see the scenario unfolding at first, but I also believe that if this is the case, David's compassion for her could easily fade over the years as he becomes more focused on his research. It might even be the case that she perhaps could die early on in this state, leaving him with nothing but the specimens he was able to retrieve from her and his research.
I believe that we will either see this scenario, or one where he is fully aware from the start and betrays her. We'll have to wait and see to discover what the true outcome will be but I'm thinking these two are the most probable.
I'll toss in a related but somewhat off-topic side note here. If the "compassion leading to opportunity" scenario is the case, I could see a likelihood that Walter might eventually be revealed to share in Ash's role as purely an instrument of Weyland-Yutani's to satisfy it's ends. A kind of built in curve ball where we are set up in the first half of the film to mistrust David and perceive him as evil, only to have this assumption turned on it's head when Walter switches over to the company agenda and David stands in defense of the Covenant crew. If this were the case and it was done well, we may enjoy the privilege of seeing a stand-off between Walter and David, complete with an epic dialogue (loaded with philosophic undertones) just prior to the two coming to blows.
IMO this would be far more interesting than a scenario where David is playing a twisted god and Walter is programmed to prioritize the crew above all else."
Well what if David wins the trust of the Covenant crew and couples and then does the same thing to them as he did for Holloway? Then we would have multiple Trilobites/Deacons (of course, for it to be a proper Deacon, there would need to be engineers
So if the Deacon is a result of Goo>Holloway>Shaw>Trilobite>Engineer, where did the Deacon's black Alien-styled body come from? Is it from the Goo? The Goo's black (and possibly created from/by the Alien on the wall mural?) but if it's from the Goo and not later mixing then why isn't the Trilobite black? Is the Trilobite just mutated sperm? The offspring of the white Trilobite via the Engineer was black again. Did the Deacon regain the black color from the Engineer? Are all of the impregnators white, as demonstrated by the classic Facehugger? Now in Covenant we're seeing a white Neomorph adult form but we don't know for sure its genetic make-up. How did it end up being white when all of the previous adult forms were black?
I also wanted to point out that the holes in the pile of bodies from the engineers could possible be from Trilobites and not hammerpedes... what do ya think about that... in infestation of Trilobites. That would be gruesome.
What is coming out the back is a Neomorph and there is another one coming out somewhere else :-) The trilobyte i guess was a one off accident. Something in between the cycle we see later on with the face huggers. Its the pre-facehugger. Like in normal evolution, there are some beginning stages that only occur once during their life evolution. At some point the most sufficient means of procreation and so forth manifests itself. But thats natures course, to genetically alter and overcome those boundaries is still open to debate.