Thousands of eggs?

Necronom IV
MemberFacehuggerMarch 12, 2017If indeed David is the creator of the eggs and xeno, I wonder how it will all tie into the derelicts egg silo in Alien with thousands off eggs? What do you guys make of this?
"Kane's son"
So the SpaceJockey could then be Walter from whom the first biomechanoid xeno is birthed and possibly the planet they're on is LV-426 but before some catastrophic event transforms it into the hellish nightmare we see in Alien? I could buy that.
"Kane's son"
I could see a queen in the mix. It's quite obvious there will be different evolutions of the xeno weapon. We know we have spores, eggmorphing,and who knows what else. If there is a queen I highly doubt it will be the main focus , instead it will be part of a very large puzzle.
@ R Budd Dwyer
Great catch on the viral site about Walter's regenerative capabilities. I feel that you are onto something as that sounds as if part of him is at least actively organic to some degree while since he is a robot the rest of him is mechanical. I feel that he may well be the key connection between organic xeno and the bio-mechanical nightmare from the original alien. He is able to be a host due to his organic qualities with his regenerative capabilities.
Also they dont need (and i hope they dont) to perform any time jumps to make things work. Please someone correct me if i am wrong but wasnt the phrase when they entered the Space Jockey room in the original something like "Looks like it's been dead a long time. Fossilized."....to me that reads as if it appears old and fossilized. Nothing is ever confirmed about the age and no scientist came in and confirmed the age with a bunch of exposition in that movie. It looked very old to a "space trucker"...it looked old to me too as a viewer but we could both be wrong. Perhaps something made it appear older or ancient when it wasnt. The frozen dead bodies of the human(ish) figures or engineers in the Alien Covenant trailer appear old and fossilized too, although i have my suspicions that they have not been that way too long. Could it be the pilot in the Space Jockey suit met the same fate as those on the planet surface?? Making it appear old and fossilized as they do??
Damn i love this stuff and all the speculation....
What are you guys thoughts on this????
ps....while i like the queen, its not as freaky and horrific as the eggmorphing concept. Just imagine being turned into some slimy egg while you are still alive and conscious enough to understand what is happening to you. Or finding a loved one or close friend who was like Dallas in that Directors Cut scene from Alien. There is no saving them even if they could still speak there body is already decomposing and in a state of transition. The egg morphing is ghastly and horrific and very much "Alien" (adj.) actually as "Alien" as it gets, there is no comprehension of how awful that would be or horrific it would be to encounter that. I feel that is Lovecraftian/Gigeresque its horrfically explainable and beyond words and because of that it fits this world better than the queen and goes more in line with the tone this movie universe is best suited for.
"Please someone correct me if i am wrong but wasnt the phrase when they entered the Space Jockey room in the original something like "Looks like it's been dead a long time. Fossilized."....to me that reads as if it appears old and fossilized. Nothing is ever confirmed about the age and no scientist came in and confirmed the age with a bunch of exposition in that movie."
You are correct. Dallas said it looked fossilised - but he just flies spaceships.
I hope he's correct, but there's scope for him to be incorrect and for it to be much younger.
Lack of imagination comes to mind when reading the previous comment.
Also, why do people need an author or director to tell them what or may not have happened to the SJ from ALIEN?
He crash landed on that planetoid millions of years ago while humanity was still in its infancy. I really don't need an Hollywood blockbuster telling me otherwise.
The poster was good though!
I'd like to change my theory above. Egg-morphing is far more terrifying than a queen. Actually, I don't think "terrifying" is a strong enough word. Thousands of colonists = thousands of eggs. Can you imagine waking up out of cryo, fully alert, with your spouse beside you, both cocooned and slowly and painfully being turned into something and have no idea what the hell is going on. I hope this is how it happens. Please!!!!
No need to be an abrasive douchebag Necronom 4.....imagination is what we are using when we are speculating about the outcome of the Space Jockey in the chair....because whether you want to be told otherwise or not that is exactly what is going to happen.....in this movie or in the follow up they are going to cover the space jockey on LV 426 and how/why/how old he got there etc....we ARE using our imaginations and just speculating where the story will unfold when they do....so pipe down, there is no need for anything derogatory to be said about anyone on a message board about a fictional film universe...unless you of course are just one of those special internet tough guy types and just feel the need....cheers
@R Budd Dwyer....personally i feel that those 2000 colonists in cryo could very well end up being the eggs on LV 426 as well...its the most horrific outcome in my opinion....unsettling, ghastly, and horrific ...i hope they go with that....if they go the eggmorphing route and do it right on screen it will be so horrific that it will stay with viewers long after we are done watching the film....to me that is the sign of a great movie......haunting and horrific, especially if done right with the right elements of loss or love involved companions trapped together and neither can save the other....awful....but in a good way....i really hope they go that route, and i feel that they will as i just have a feeling that Ridley would rather include one of his ideas from his directors cut than the queen which was someone else's idea...just saying
Also he could have used indigenous life forms/animals to "grow" the eggs...who knows but I think the evolution of the xeno,proto,neo is very broad.
Also is it me or does this new protomorph looknow like the alien in alien 3? But a lot bigger....
@R.Budd Dwyer, I really feel for your hopes of what may come in the upcoming sequel! I too wanted something (naively) from Prometheus and at first was confused as to the way I felt about it. Over time, I've come to realise that it's not at all in line with what I really wanted from the SJ species backstory.
These prequels are just one person's vision of the backstory. It doesn't mean it is the ACTUAL backstory! (I can sense another canon debate coming lol.)
Just because it's Ridley (an amazing filmmaker, no doubt!) that's produced it, doesn't mean you have to buy it.
It's not my intention to put you on a downer! I just don't want you to feel the way I felt after seeing Prometheus!
But, realistically, what I wanted from Prometheus was never going to happen. FOX would never fund the surreal horrors I hold in my own imagination with regards to the ALIEN backstory.
I just have to accept that.
The poster was good though!
@Grinning and dropping linen; Sorry to upset you with that comment but I'm just voicing my opinion.
The lack of imagination comment wasn't aimed at you or any member of this forum because I know each one of us have our concerns.
However, There are certain people that need to know what happened in the past and that's fine! But I personally can't understand it. Everybody feels the same about something that they love and if they feel that the thing they love is being treated badly then there reaction isn't going to be a positive reaction, is it? I don't like how the SJ's backstory is being treated! Therefor I react negatively to any further tamperings.
I've been a member of this site since 2012 and have always felt like this is the place to say exactly how I feel with regards to the ALIEN lour.
A lot of times I say things with the belief that people can handle it and yes, sometimes I can be a "Douchbag" That's the way i'am, take me or leave me.
The poster was good though!
I agree with you i feel that things left unsaid are often better in film than having it spelled out. I liked the mystery of not knowing about the how and why's of how the derelict got there or the history of the space jockey. I liked that ancient unspoken mystery that surrounded that...but it seems they will be spelling everything out, I for one, if they were gonna explore all that wish they would have went with what you mentioned in a previous comment...some ancient unimaginable horrors. I feel this would better serve the lore ......i liked a lot of elements from Prometheus but it let me down as i was hoping that movie would open up a universe of unimaginable terrors. I have a good feeling about Alien Covenant but part of me is sad that they are explaining everything, i kind of enjoyed the not knowing...it lent more to the imagination, but heres to hoping we all enjoy what is next ...kudos
Also i too hate that the Space Jockey ended up being just a bigger version of human...i feel that is a huge missed opportunity
RE: the OP's question: I hope they don't tie things down too nicely, as you have mentioned, but I suppose it could be done in a way that leaves things open. A bit of "loose canon" (and I use the word 'canon' loosely) goes a long way towards keeping future cinematic horizons open, especially if there will indeed be several more movies. Daisy-chaining is nice; meaning where loose connections are made between past and present plot points to further the story. I have always enjoyed O'Bannon's admixture of Lovecraft to his original story. As for the filmed version, I felt the abyssal mystery of the pilot (as known before somebody dubbed him "Space Jockey") should forever stay a mystery.
Oh, well! It was fun while it lasted... :)
"You are correct. Dallas said it looked fossilised - but he just flies spaceships."
Yessir, ya gotta love Dallas: in over his head the second they saw the derelict and sinking deeper as he made poor choices that ironically, had they not been made, would have resulted in a much shorter movie.
Still, I've always wondered if his experience in 2109 with the Thedus-Archangel disaster (and subsequent UAORD DD) really messed him up.
He wasn't quite a Company man, but he apparently lost some of his fire and desire to command when it really counted.
15K deaths might do that to a man...
I would like to share my theory:
When the SXSW preview for covenant came out, there was a scene when Oram and David are talking and David said that he was a zoologist and that "They are waiting for their mother" this indicates that the eggs have a "mother" that layed them.
So the Chicken came first ;)
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