Unused Concepts and ideas you would like to see?

I love the idea of egg morphing and although i enjoy Cameron's queen concept on film i prefer the egg morphing idea. The queen is a akin to the big boss you have to fight in a video game, its all very surface level, its mean and it looks cool. While the egg morphing is much deeper than just how it looks...imagine the elements at play, the horror and how ghastly that would be to come to terms with if it happened to you or a loved one, it spins the imagination and mind about. The mere idea is ghastly, and dark, dreadful and cruel and a host of a billion other adjectives. The egg morphing idea is more in line with the Alien being very "alien" and it keeps it a perfect organism, it needs no colony, no population no queen to reproduce all it needs is a couple victims and it can quickly take over and reproduce. The egg morphing retains the elegance of the original Alien and the concept that is something unimaginable, a veritable nightmare...As i mentioned i love Aliens and i like the queen on screen but i think the egg morphing concept retains some of that ancient cosmic horror, something unspeakable unimaginably hideous, it is a pefect organism because it doesnt need a queen. The queen by definition reduces the xenomorph to a simple dangerous animal and quite really a dangerous large insect. ...i much prefer the perfect organism who needs nothing but victims to perpetuate itself, egg morphing strengthens the idea that it is a perfect elegant organism and is something beyond comprehension. Knowing that you are trapped or a loved on is trapped and mutating into one of those things is a nightmare and thats how i view this film universe when its done in the best way ...a frantic fever dream from which there is no escape...give us egg morphing Ridley !!! Gracias!

My wish is to see what a juggernaut can do to contribute to the definition of hostility.

The pyramid from the draft of Alien... But it seems that we are getting that in covenant...ish...

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@Grinning & Dropping Linen 

I totally agree.

- Eggmorphing

- Engineer tech, ships being grown

- I'd love to see the Deacon taking a stroll :)

Sorry for doublepost

@BigDave

Is there a place/site where i can look up the "unused stuff"? 

Necronom IV... The Deacon allways reminded me of those sad, allover white clowns, with pointy hats...

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Cocooned Burke on Ripley's route to Newt, in Aliens.

And the ancient pyramid, in Alien.

A little bit off, but I am a fan of the paintings and style created by Peter Andrew Jones. I love his worlds so much! I would like to see something similar in an Alien movie:

Easily Vincent Ward's initial Wooden Planet concept for Alien 3.

Just as original idea as the first Alien film.

Religious fanatics who despise most technology used by civilization, decide to leave earth in a giant wooden/metal space station/planet thing that also acts as a giant cathedral.

Hm. One thing I'd like to see is eggmorphing (and apparently I'm not the only one). I read ADF's novelization of ALIEN before I saw ALIENS (I saw the first film when I was 8--looking back, way too young but ah well) and the second film when I was a tween, and in between I managed to sneak the old copy of Foster's book and read it. (I had to sneak a read since my mom thought it was too graphic for me--I think I read it when I was ten). It mentions the eggmorphing scene, and I found the idea particularly horrific. Thus when I saw ALIENS, I found the queen to be a bit of a let-down. Too safe an idea, as it were. I liked the movie otherwise, but the lack of eggmorphing was a bummer.

Since the black goo in Prometheus introduces a means of mutating existing life-forms into new forms, perhaps it, or a modification of it (via David? the Engineers?) can cause eggmorphing. Or, since the aliens are likely a product--at least in part--of the black goo, perhaps they retain some of its the ability to cause such a radical mutation--in the form of eggmorphing. A venom of some sort, perhaps. Certainly an unpleasant experience for whoever is being morphed.

On a side note, this black goo connection would also help explain how they acquire characteristics from their hosts and environments. Kane's Son is very male (which if one takes into consideration H.R. Giger's concept sketches was quite unfortunate for Lambert!), whereas Shaw's "baby" is quite female (the Last Engineer got an eyeful of that!). Even the trilobite's own resultant "offspring," the deacon, looks rather delicate and androgynous...

Just some musings. Great topic!

Neomorph!! I've allways tried hard to forget that, but it comes back to haunt me...

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Is or because you find the idea unrealistic and silly, or actually scary? 

@Neomorph its because eggmorphing is ghastly and horrific, the idea of being unwillingly mutated against your will to some unimaginable terror....or finding a loved one that is being egg morphed....or dying at the hands of something that use to be a loved one and discovering this right before you die, its haunting and would be awesome on screen just a few last moments with a character who the film aknowledges they are trying to understand and come to grips with what has happened to them and their loved one, like i said a frantic fever dream from which there is no escape...egg morphing would be amazing on screen...it leaves a lasting impression

@Neomorph its because eggmorphing is ghastly and horrific, the idea of being unwillingly mutated against your will to some unimaginable terror....or finding a loved one that is being egg morphed....or dying at the hands of something that use to be a loved one and discovering this right before you die, its haunting and would be awesome on screen just a few last moments with a character who the film aknowledges they are trying to understand and come to grips with what has happened to them and their loved one, like i said a frantic fever dream from which there is no escape...egg morphing would be amazing on screen...it leaves a lasting impression

Neo... I think it's unrealistic, because of the concept of a wooden planet/craft. Where would you get all that wood to build a planet? Why wood? What about Gravitation, etcetera... I allso think it would wander of a little too much from the original concept and thoughts in the franchise. Bold thoughts, though.

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Totally on board with the egg morphing.  Don't get me wrong, I enjoy large bottom females as much as the next person - but the egg morphing is just way more horrific to me than the queen concept...

I am not quite sure why, but I find it deeply unsettling.

@ Nycro

Totally agree the idea stays with you, it is deeply unsettling and its a haunting concept

grinning, I agree totally about the eggmorphing. its my preference to the queen though I like the queen. egg morphing is more alien and terrifying. some think that younger viewers will only relate to the queen so that's what wel see. total BS. ridley wanted egg morphing. they even shot it. they only didtched it because it slowed the pace of the movie at that stage. the fact the black goo uses morphing properties suggests to me morphing is the way ridley is gna go. plus egg orphing wasn't even a concept when the directors cut came out and id say most prefer it so to say hel go with a queen to satisfy younger viewers is crap. I believe the eggs cudrup is exposed to is morphed engineers as their much larger than the eggs wer used to. maybe david has found that it is only genetic material that is required and the subject doesn't have to be alive to be morphed into an egg.

I would love to also see a decent backstory on the engineers, their relationship to the goo and xeno and those higher up, maybe even get an interstellar battle scene between warring factions